* Posts by abcxyz123

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UK govt office admits ability to negotiate billions in cloud spending curbed by vendor lock-in

abcxyz123

Re: If there was....

Can you describe how you think this would work?

Are you going to ban AWS from offering any service, feature, API or incentive that OCI, GCP, Azure, CHS, etc dont offer?

Are you going to mandate OCI supports AWS Aurora?

Are you going to mandate that AWS landing zone accelerator be able to orchestrate Azure and CHS, and wierd legacy stuff from kyndrl?

abcxyz123

no it would not

Cloud has 2 elements.

IaaS = somebody elses computer, on which you design and build your stuff

PaaS = somebody elses platform, on which you build

So with the former, you have a TON of extra work to do, to make, eg the database scale, to ensure it does backup and recovery, failover, monitoring, etc - and you have to test all that. and you have to take the never ending set of security and feature patches that also need testing and deploying. This costs a lot of money

But with the later, the cloud provider is doing all that, and spreading the cost over millions of customers - so you get a LOT of stuff for free

Sure UK Gov could try to compete with AWS on AWS's home turf, but do you really think they could? Would they have the money to hire the same caliber of people? Is there any chance at all they could keep up? No. None whatsoever.

Which leaves the gov doing one of these:

1. building only on IaaS which is absurdly slow and expensive

2. using the PaaS then being kicked for this mythical lockin thing as though the costs of moving werent 10x the savings. or the costs of being able to move werent 100x the savings

PS there was a UK cloud - it was actually called UK cloud - they went bankrupt failing to compete with AWS

abcxyz123

Re: Design it right

Do you think anyone who submits a bid that includes all that extra cost is going to win the procurement?

abcxyz123

Re: Lock in

That wouldnt help. You'd still have to be able to deploy your opensource thing anywhere

So you wouldnt be able to use any of the value adding cloud services like PaaS

So you'd need to build everything yourself. Like we did in 2006

Which would cost 5x more than just using the cloud properly