Almost sounds like Tesla did a Jaguar, and Musk shoudl ask do Tesla still make cars ?
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Musk distracts from struggling car biz with fantastical promise to make 1 million humanoid robots a year
Re: "tasks that are unsafe, repetitive or boring"
There are very large teams of council office staff who exist to perform tasks for the benefit of the local rate payers.
How can they help local rate payers if they dont actually interact, learn, listen and help those rate payers ? If you want to help someone theres a good chance you must leave the office. In the end someone has to visit the street, home or other site to see and identify if a problem exists.
dave: Similarly, phone up your council's housing number with a legitimate question about social housing and you'll get help.
cow:
Local councils in Australia do not help with local housing or similar social work. That type of thing belongs to a different department who function at the federal level.
I stated in a previous post local councils do work like picking up trash and taking care of parks and accepting payments for land rates. They off course process building requests for changes and new developments. Thats literally ALL their work.
Why does a local council need a hundred or more office staff to perform that work ? The garbo who picks the rurbbish and the council workers who cut the grass are not assisted by the office workers at all. THose office workers are not mechanically minded, they dont fix those big machines.
THis example of office workers matches what we see on a national level. Almost nothing (ignoring food) we buy is made in Australia, the vast majority comes from overseas. THe same is true of the UK. Most cars are from OS, clothes, electronics, etc.
Re: "tasks that are unsafe, repetitive or boring"
Dave: As your your comment of e-mailing random government/council bodies with random questions, did it ever occur to you that those people may in fact be busy doing their JOBS and hence may not have the free time to just sit there and reply to every inane query that you send through?
cow:
Do you know how the police/ambos/firies find out people need help ?
From their phone line.
Im simply talking about other orgs, the only difference is those orgs also have public emails or forms.
So you think the fire/ambo/police would be better able to do their work by ignoring 000 or 999 ?
What a fucking idiot.
Re: Now you tell us what you've done.
Woolies sold me grapes or $16kg just the other day. Whether its $16 or $5ish the later is still 20x what the farmer is making.
20 DUCKING TIMES.
The farmers are not covering their costs at 20c they need 40c and thats why they are going broke.
This is insane, theres a 20x markup and the farmers who provide the product cant even break even.
Re: process their pay
cow: That's how the farmer gets $0.20 for a kilo of grapes and the consumer pays $16.00 for a kilo of grapes."
doctor: I doubt most of the difference goes in paying those whose jobs involve just coming into the office as you seem to think. I'd guess most of the mark-up is the supermarket's although it will cost money to transport them (probably refrigerated).
Cow:
Theres are a few problems. OIL is on the low side, even when compared to 10 years ago, so there are no new oil costs. Wages are stagnant and havent really moved in years. Food is constantly increasing all the time. Grapes are almost double they were just a year or two ago.
So what changed ?
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doctor: However, as to AUTOMATING (your shout) office jobs, most weekend papers have a column dedicated to customers and taxpayers who got screwed by banks, finance companies, travel companies, property companies, government departments etc and cannot get hold of anyone to sort things out until a journalist rings the press office. That's auomation at work.
cow:
You ddidnt actually answer my question where is the money going ?
Everything is going up - because our society is plagued with unproductive people who add no value and add only cost.
There is no manufcaturing in Australia, there are of course real workers like the blue collar types who fight fires, fix plumbing and all that. But as the years ago by the number of ofice workers goes up.
BUT a lot of Australians have jobs in offices, and this burden is forcing the prices of everything up. More office workers does not make food cheaper. It doesnt make clothes cheaper.
Maybe 30 years ago we had one GAS company and one electricity company both run by the government and prices were cheaper. Today gas and electricity is going up at least 10% each year. What we do have is dozens of companies, with dozens of offices and all that staff. Before it was one HQ and now its dozens. Thats not free, those buildings cost a lot of money, all those managements want bonuses. The cost of coal hasnt changed that much, same for coal.
Pretty obvious wher ethe cost sorry tax on people is coming from. Those bums on seats cost money and they add no value. THey were not neeced 30 years ago and they certainly are not now.
Re: process their pay
I have news for you.
Council office workers are not specialised. Councils do not have bomb fragment or similar investigations.
What makes you think EVERY council has such a unit ? A country like AU has thousands of councils, there is no need for a bomb investigation unit for EACH ONE.
Re: process their pay
Your first paragraph is true, but theres only one problem, all these processes are computerised and not manual. Sure there are teams of programmers and the related team members. However governments and teams will readily admit that while they have a lot of software teams, most of their office workers are not in anyway close to the software side of things.
As i state most people today dont actually do anything of value. THey ATTEND their work places, and they are all waiting for time to pass and go home. They dont actitvely try and help people.
Most people here who have answered to me, are examples of this, they cant actually say what these people or themselves do, instead they insult me, and that tells.
Re: "tasks that are unsafe, repetitive or boring"
Rikki: Typical "public servants do nothing" attitude. I have worked in a territory/local government, and I can assure you that most people work hard. Yes, there are some slackers and some (mainly at middle management level) who may not be optimally productive, but these are very much a minority.
cow: Yes the public servants OUTSIDE work hard most of the office workers do NOTHING.
Goto any job board, and randomly pick a 3 advertisements with contact emails. Write them a simple question and whats the bet NONE reply. Repeat the challenge but this time try emailing random government or council body with a random question.
Re: "tasks that are unsafe, repetitive or boring"
THe sad thing is most humans do less than that, they literally do nothing.
GO visit any office for example, half the staff could be at home completely disconnected and nobpody would notice and nothing would change.
My local council has a multi story building with hundreds of staff and yet the only people actually doing real work that we can see are the garbos who pick up the garbage, and gardeners. Thats barely 10- 20 people and yet there are over a 100 in the office doing i have no idea.
I saw another video on YT about grape growers in South Australia, who are struggling to sell their grapes for $200 a tonne, thats 20c a kilo, and yet my local Woolies sells grapes for $16 a kg.
Where is all the money going ?
Bums who do nothing.
Unfortunately we have an over supply.
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Most technology or any other field success is due to luck.
We are lucky to be born, our location is also luck. There are many hard working smart people in Africa for example they are just unlucky to be born in Africa.
WIth recent Epstein file names and stories again we see that many of these people are there for many reasons but brains isnt one of them, the most probably answer is luck.
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Re: Universal Basic Income
Precisely, this is a major component why the price of ev erything is going up. THe system is overloaded with people who contribute far less than the cost their position adds to the system.
In the end this cost makes their own and other parts of the system expensive. When you add up all that burden onto the system everything costs a lot more. THis is why food and housing as examples is becoming very expensive for nearly if not all western countries.
Re: Actually, it is their fault
AI is a failure.
Take a look at Apple, their homekit is a joke, it gets the most basic of requests wrong. It is often broken, it cant handle two spoken requests without a big break between. YT and google is no different. I get adds for farming equipment and for all sorts of sprays. Google knows my IP and therefore my locataion, its pretty obvious I am not a massive farm who needs all that stu and sprays. Dont get me started on its suggestions for videos in other languaes with subtitles in other languages we clearly do not know here. No family understands 10+ random languages every few days.
Re: Universal Basic Income
doublelayer Just because you don't know what someone is doing isn't sufficient evidence that they're doing nothing.
cow:
I shared the example of the local council in my area.
What are those 100s of staff in the building doing ?
If the council workers are not outside in the neighbour doing manual work as i shared previously.
WHy does a council with under 10000 residents need a building with a few hundred council office workers ?
What could they possibly be doing ?
Paying council rates is pretty basic, they have systems for that, they dont need 100s of staff for that.
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double:
As for what the people in the Commonwealth Bank buildings are doing, I can explain that. They are trying to take money and turn it into other money, even though none of it might be yours.
Cow:
Wow like all arse hates you have to make a stupid comment about me even though you have no idea if i am rich or poor.
Goto any bank and watch how many staff are literally doing NOTHING.
They do stupid things like telling members of the public where to line up. A bank with less than 5 customers in store, does not need someone to tell them where to line up. Thats completely braindead and unnecessary.
Re: Universal Basic Income
Sadly a universal basic income sort of already exists.
How many workers out there actually do anything, and i mean anything ?
If aliens came today and took half the people in any country, nobody would notice.
In my local council there are 100s of people in an office, doing i have no idea what. The only true council workers are of cours ethe garbos and gardeners who take care of parks and stuff like that.
What do the others do ?
THe same is true of any company. Here in AU, every company even the mega big ones only have ONE phone number, some dont even have an email. You literally cant find anyone "inside" the comany for a question of complaint. I know this is by design, they just want you to give up anything, but my observation remains, what do these people do ?
The Comm Bank, massive bank one of the biggest in the world, has mega buildings everywhere "full" of people, what do they do ? No idea.
Same is true of everywhere you go.
These parasites is why everything is expensive and going up, because we are all paying for the do nothings.
As time travels forward about I keep seeing more and more AI news and bullshit claims I cant help think this is a repeat of religion and the passion, suffering and horrible things that people in the west did to each other while pretending their God was the right one or better etc.
Unfortunately the people doing bad things still happens in the rest of the world, because some people tell bullshit stories, and those stories have to be better than the others. Back then they would start a war and cleans the unbelievers.
AI is the new God, they keep on forcing news and telling everyone how wonderful it is, but they never can actually show it - its always a let down. Reminds me of the bible for example where God is always so powerful on paper, but when it counts he is no where to be seen. God never saves Israel from the Greeks, Babylonians, Egyptians etc etc in real life.
Even in ElReg there are several stories where they "claim" in a post somehwere that AI did this in a few hours, but they never show you the code or put up an online demo.
No the bullshit never ends.
Just like the misery religion has caused, AI is run by the same types of psychopaths and this isnt going to end well. Just like the popes, preiests and whatever you want to call them, they always claim they are right and its for your own good.
In todays times where water is clearly a motivation for major news events, AI Is raping the world for resources that we as a living creature on earth cannot afford. Just ask Iran how well they are doing with water. Those idiots wasted their water growing and exporting some goods for a few dollars, and today they are on the edge of ruin. The money they earnt has lost a lot of its value because naturally their money is worth shit now. The result is they destroyed their land for money that is worth practically nothing.
This tells us the real value is not money but water, more wars are going to come because we waste resources we really need on bullshit like AI we dont.
Just watch Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq are all on the edge of running out of water or heading that way. Its not going to end well.
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IBM says AI is insane in the mainframe as z17 sales surge
THis has to be the most stupid title.
Why would anyone buy a mainframe for anything including AI when they can buy a few servers for a fraction of the cost ?
Mainframes are slow, cost a shitload. They are barely more capable than a few laptops from your local Harvey Norman, and they cost millions.
This title makes no sense.
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Re: I'm starting to wonder
AC: Nobody is claiming that Gwynne has built a rocket.
cow:
Yes it a different skillset, but you completely overplay and over evaluate putting people in place compared to building rockets.
She can write as many emails as she likes but she isnt going to bullshit physics, and fix the problems that caused the last Starship to blow up.