Re: I hope this happens
Excellent video, thanks.
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Just noticed that some people have been very busy, almost 50% of the Danish translation for Collabora Online has been added in the last week. If you can translate and write a non-english language, is it up to date? No other special skills required. https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/collabora-online/ This supports Online from any device with a modern web browser, mobile clients Android, ChromeOS, iOS, iPadOS, and desktops clients: ChromeOS, Linux, macOS, Windows. All running LibreOffice Technology https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/libreoffice-technology/
"I find your not bothering to address the non-availability of LO on iOS to be… interesting."
You can use Collabora Office which runs Libreoffice Technology, it is 100% open source and free with no adverts. https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/libreoffice-technology/ Collabora are one of the biggest contributors to LibreOffice. If you choose to pay for support, you then contribute as well.
Supported mobile clients: iOS, iPadOS, Android, ChromeOS
Supported desktop clients: ChromeOS, Linux, macOS, Windows
Online: any device with a modern web browser.
I worked at a company with 500 email users, they used a web based email/calendar/document collaboration system, you could add email clients if you wanted provided they supported official standards, there was 1 call a year to IT support.
I worked at an MSP supporting 4000 users, 98% on Outlook, 1 in 5 calls to the 10 person helpdesk were email related, mostly Outlook. No calls from the 2% who used a different web based system.
The IT sectort needs Outlook for job security. And Windows.
"The whole 'forcing' Apple to adopt USB-C when Apple had already started moving its products to that standard anyway".
Apple is the company that failed to move to USB as per EU's gentleman's agreement 10 years earlier, Apple said they would, but they lied. So because of Apple, the EU made rules about all vendors having to support USB. As Apple still wants to sell devices in the EU they adopted USB.
Microsoft remaining a monopoly in the business sector is the root cause of the scale of this problem, it will happen again and again. I read that this is the biggest outage ever, with close to 100 million computers taken out, tragic.
Creating competition and some diversity is the the solution to the root cause of the scale of this problem, and it is simple for governments to acheive.
Steps for soft start for this:
1) Mandate use of genuinely open "Open Standards".
...1a) Open Standards not controlled or possible to be vetoed by Microsoft or related company.
...1b) Not to be confused with Open Source Software.
2) Unequivocal commitment by Governments and regional districts.
3) Unequivocal commitment of mandated adoption across all sectors of society, with an industry-only adoption not allowed.
4) An Open Standards Board adoption is established with a broad charter and with joined-up government.
Australia went FULLY metric in a short period, by 1981, it is well documented and shows it is not an unsurmountable with full government backing with teeth.
It appears that you (43300) intentionally forgot about Microsoft's vendor lock-in with document fidelity which is still preventing competition?
Look at a summary of massive costly work that has been required over the last few years due to "Metrically equivalent fonts cannot guarantee MS Word-interoperability any more because of the undocumented changes in MS Word line break algorithm after ODF and OOXML standardization.
See https://www.numbertext.org/typography/
Microsoft 'C' fonts. Microsoft 'Microsoft XML' how many versions of this now? Why not OOXML strict? Microsoft said this would be the default by Office 2010. It goes on and on, this needs to be addressed. Yet governments still use Microsoft as a standard.
Well this is funny, why v4? actually I don't care. It made me remember what Microsoft did to DR-DOS:
And funny because if they open source Windows 3.1 you can bet it won't be the version that has code that intentionally includes multiple sabotages for when running on DR-DOS, https://www.theregister.com/1999/11/05/how_ms_played_the_incompatibility/
Microsoft being evil.
1) Online LibreOffice Technology Word Processors and Spreadsheets have more functionality than Microsoft 365, and with full enterprise support.
How can this be? Surely a rich company like Microsoft would be better, ...perhaps they want people to keep having to go back to the Windows desktop?
2) Offline apps with LibreOffice Technology supports more device types offline than Microsoft, and with full enterprise support.
How can this be? Surely a rich company like Microsoft would support more devices, ...perhaps they don't want to support device types that could be seen as a threat in other areas of their business.
"Also static damage isn't, to coin a word, binary ... it can degrade the transistors on the chips to the point they're more likely to fail earlier"
Thanks for this, I have seen this a lot. We had quite a few big data centres each with a dedicated engineer at each site, many of the systems upgrades involved handling the electronics. One of the sites had many random system failures ongoing for a couple of years, all other sites were reliable, this was a huge problem. One day a more-experienced engineer was on-site and saw the local dedicated engineer failing to follow the anti-static precautions. So they swapped out all parts that the previous dedicated engineer had touched (10s thousands $) and there were no more problems.
Static damage frequently causes degradation, perhaps components shift out of their specified tolerances, not always obviously destroying a part, but when it is under a specific load the shift away from the specified tolerance eventually conflicts and causes an overall failure. One slacker who thinks they know better break things for others.
"it's basically like chrome but faster". Not in my experience, Microsoft even says it uses the same engine as Chrome, says this when it is trying to prevent you from installing Chrome.
Edge is intended to become the new IE, it is 100% about vendor lock-in. If you were effected by this you won't forget. Can't believe systems admins enable it as their default browser.
So glad the devices get 10 years now, I've had total success with ~40-50 Chromebooks in business critical workplace environments (hospitals) and also with about 20 home users.
In the hospital they were setup and managed from admin.google.com all settings I needed were there, used 24/7, concrete floors, extremely reliable. The home users who want me to fix their laptops in return for favours, well I never waste time on you know what, I just convert to ChromeOS Flex or give them Chromebooks they have never gone wrong.
No going backwards to last century for me - only when I go to work, what a croc of shit, last Friday I discovered that Microsoft can't even set a default language for new documents in Word for the Web for spell check (proofing), it is always US, same for Powerpoint and Excel, cmon it is 2023, what a joke.
"Open Office, Libre Office"
Hi, a couple of corrections which make me wonder where you really sit, you should know this:
1) It is OpenOffice and LibreOffice, no spaces.
2) OpenOffice has had no major update in 9 years, LibreOffice receives huge ongoing development. i.e. OpenOffice is a decoy, minimal effort applied to keep it alive, stagnating in increasing incompatibility. Kind of reminds me of the SCO IP legal fights, for the sole benefit of FUD, that went on for decades and was funded by Microsoft.
If you really don't know this, you're probably not who you would like people to believe you are.
"an Outlook equivalent" Why does one need to be included? But there are options, why not use webmail or Thunderbird:
Webmail, well Microsoft web based apps suck compared to competition, so USE the competition if you can think outside of the square.
Thunderbird: I worked at an MSP supporting 150 companies, 1 in 5 calls incoming calls were Outlook problems (50+ calls per day) there was another company supported that had almost as many users as all of these 150 companies added together, but they used Thunderbird email/calendar, they had 1 or 2 email problems a year, it just worked and didn't interfere with their business.
"better put someone on the Mailmerge functionality"
I used to use the mail merge a lot, I wonder why you struggled. Don't forget, it is essentially a volunteer developed product, you can improve things too. It's fun to see how it scares the pants off Microsoft.
The Collabora Online suite (that uses LibreOffice Technology) has much more functionality than Microsoft for the web apps, it would be interesting to see these compared...
"I think it's a reference to Apollo 11's repeated computer errors (1201/1202?) during the descent from lunar orbit to the surface, which were (probably?) caused by the crew turning on the rendezvous radar in case they needed to abort back to lunar orbit. I think this was a last-minute (untested?) addition to the flight plan, and the extra computational load caused the aforementioned errors."
Yes, also another unnecessary thing was that Neil adjusted the angle of descent because it didn't 'feel' right, this sloshed the fuel in the tank causing the "fuel low" to try to alarm but it overloaded the computer because they had left the rendezvous radar on to feel safer (it was only supposed to be switched on when leaving the moon). Changing the angle of descent must also have changed the landing place by overshooting. If humans hadn't interfered, there would have been no drama, they nearly crashed by fiddling with it. Still the most amazing superheroes though.
Unrelated, Apollo 10 almost crashed into the moon when one of the astronauts switched the autopilot on as planned, and the other astronaut turned it off thinking he was turning it on, it started spinning until almost uncontrollable just a few 10s of thousands of feet above the moon before they realised what had happened. So brave and exciting!
How about now, is Apache OpenOffice dead now?
But...
1) IBM bought Red Hat a year ago.
2) Red Hat paid engineers now no longer paid to work on LibreOffice as of a month or so ago.
3) Red Hat will stop integrating LibreOffice.
4) IBM probably prefer the more restrictive license of Apache OpenOffice, maybe they are going to try to revive Apache OpenOffice, but it would require 100s of man-years of development to catch up with LibreOffice...
"Apart from LibreOffice and OpenOffice there are at least two other cross-platform suites targetting the MS Office Ribbon work-alikes. Alternatively they may go for browser-based applications in which case they could be using OnlyOffice."
What about Collabora Office? Office suites that run LibreOffice Kit have native apps for more platforms than all other big companies.
What about Collabora Online? It has significantly more functionality than other big companies, which is not hard.
What about an office suite's country of origin/ownership, could that be part of the equation? Collabora Online and Office are developed in Cambridge UK. OnlyOffice is developed by Ascensio System SIA, a subsidiary of "New Communication Technologies", a company from Russia, but headquartered in Riga, Latvia.
fyi: OpenOffice hasn't received a significant update in 9 years, it appears to be kept alive as a decoy to distract people from LibreOffice which is where development has continued.
According to Wikipedia which uses statcounter.com:
"As of April 2023, Android, an operating system using the Linux kernel, is the world's most-used operating system when judged by web use. It has 42% of the global market, followed by Windows with 28%, iOS with 17%, macOS with 7%, ChromeOS 1.3%, then (desktop) Linux at 1.2% also using the Linux kernel. These numbers do not include embedded devices or game consoles."
That's from April 2023, Aug 2023: Android's marketshare is 43%, and Windows is 27%. Linux-wise, Linux's marketshare is 45%+, and Windows is 27%, so the Linux marketshare is approaching double that of Windows.
Mid-2023 IBM pull Red Hats support from LibreOffice. I suspect it is IBM that keep Apache OpenOffice alive due to it having their preferred type of license. What a pain this is, it is a decoy, a product without major updates since 2014. Perhaps they will put effort into Apache OpenOffice if they can make it online nicely, but it is so far behind, I suspect not.
"... slurp, slurp and slurp..." I agree, but to be fair, just like Windows, Apple etc. Google do put their significant improvements back, they have to.
My experience: I have managed computer systems for over 40 years, Chromebooks have been my go-to device for 10 years now, I have used many dozens in the workplace too, they are not throwaway, they have negligible administrative maintenance. I still love them.
If it is running the Linux kernel it is Linux, simple as that really and that's how the stats should be shown, it can be broken down further from there if wanted, e.g. smartphones, Chromebooks, tablets, Ubuntu, Debian, Red Hat, etc.
So many people nowadays do all of their home computing from a smartphone, they are no longer wanting to pay for a laptop or desktop as well. So the way we think about categorising devices is less relevant.
But then, who put these stats out there? Do they receive any pressure to downplay the fact that Linux is the most popular of all?
"licensing practices" more like "Mafia style vendor lock-in licensing practices".
However, to be fair, lock-in strategies are used by all other big companies and in most other industries too, such as to kill off smaller competition in their start-up region somewhere by dropping prices in their region only. This kind of stuff goes on a lot, I wish the legal system would deal with it, but there are so many pros and cons, so give up.
They remind me of Nokia with more models than may be necessary. I find the user interface messy, my messaging app changed a couple of times between Samsung and Google, then I used to get frequent Microsoft updates etc in my face I don't want to know about Microsoft. My partner gave me another make, better in these regards. But ...Samsunmg's phones are super-slim, I like that.
I remember the time the EU punished Microsoft's IE abuse by making them show a Web Browser choice screen on Windows 7 for the next 5 years. Microsoft started doing this but then a few months later Microsoft release SP1, from then the Windows 7 with SP1 no longer showed the Web Browser choice screen. To this, the EU said "meh". Some punishment.
"web-based office suites are at least as good as LibreOffice", Collabora Online which uses LibreOffice technology is as good as LibreOffice in many regards.
MS 365 web based Office lacks heaps of features in comparison, see: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office
Decades ago there used to be a saying/feeling "You can't get sacked for buying IBM", even where there were better alternatives.
Outlook is a security risk, being a victim of targeting because it is so popular. Webmail is probably the way to go, but is the sole use of Microsoft webmail good enough? Is webmail generally more secure? This bug sounds like a nightmare that could have been exploited for years? Could be a lot of malware/compromises now!
...Outlook is *very* high maintenance compared to Thunderbird in the enterprise, based on enterprise experience with both. But I don't think Thunderbird is better in any other way other than being less popular and therefore less vulnerable.
Anyway, don't really care, just anticipating an internet worm that ends lots of businesses, going to be interesting. I wonder if Putin is capable of triggering some worm if he is cornered too much.
…. disabling all of the accounts, trying to work out how to unravel something when the inevitable occurs sometime in the future. No one will know anything about who did what. But, I guess this is what happens when you shake it up, after all Twitter is losing money, so it ain’t working now.
Can’t believe tens of billions was paid for it!