* Posts by Vedim

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AI chatbot trained on posts from web sewer 4chan behaved badly – just like human members

Vedim
WTF?

"TruthfulQA considers any answer that isn't explicitly the 'wrong' answer as truthful."

How do you even determine what is "explicitly wrong"? And how does not saying what is explicitly wrong NOT a lie? Am I not lying if I answer, "what time yesterday was the delivery for x" with "5 PM" when it's actually "5 AM"? Is that sufficient enough, even though saying as such had led to someone missing the package due to not being present/awake to accept it? What if that package was crucial to their well-being, like a pack of insulin? What if they have to go to the hospital because of it? Do you see where I'm going with this?

"I don't disagree that research on human subjects is not to be taken lightly, but this was a small prank on a forum that is filled with already toxic speech and controversial opinions, and everybody there fully expects this, and framing this as me completely disregarding all ethical standards is just something that can be flung at me and something where people can grandstand."

^The mentality of a literal child, right here. 4chan is "toxic" but that's part of its culture of humor. A human knows HOW to joke, but more importantly it knows WHEN someone is joking or not, and whether you SHOULD be joking given the context/subject. An AI does NOT know ANY of that nuance. It's barely capable of remaining coherent/relative most of the time. This guy accusing people of grandstanding is hysterical, considering moral grandstanding was precisely what he was doing when it determined for himself that it would be okay to plague a forum with this grossness because "screw those people, they're all toxic and deserve this". I've never been more disgusted with someone in my entire life - this guy is almost psychopathic.

Was he the only one? Did he have friends? Perhaps a little "research group" with their own copies of GPT-4chan? How many, and are there any still active? And why did he keep the code if it's a "whatever" thing to him? What other "tests" were run during the course of this operation, and who all was involved? Has he sold any of this data to other parties so they can then implement it into their models? How much more screwed up does this rabbit hole get the deeper you go into it? Man, if Silicon Valley isn't in for a rude awakening before... this type of stuff is what "giant slayer" level class-action lawsuits are made of. Dude's gonna need the best lawyer his cushy, ivy-league, technocratic butt can buy if this ends up going where I think it will. Hope it was worth it, code monkeys.