Reply to post: Re: Gosh, really ?

Re: Gosh, really ?

Really? [snip]

I guess you might try reading more widely,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Why-the-Ukraine-Crisis-Is.pdf

https://geohistory.today/azov-movement-ukraine/

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/rise-of-azov/

This should establish the world outside of your bubble was aware of Ukraine prior to this year.

I highly recommend Mearsheimer who has a great primer on the roots of the civil war.

The same Russian diplomats [snip] complained about Ukraine [snip] not complying with an agreement [snip].

The agreement is the Minsk accords, which negotiated a ceasefire to the war you’ve not heard of, but funnily enough, have heard of the ceasefire agreements.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-are-minsk-agreements-ukraine-conflict-2022-02-21/

Russia is not in breach of the UN charter, they invoked their article 51 right to mutual self-defence, Russia is by the book, as you can surely tell by now, you are not well informed on this matter, perhaps do some research.

“Russia's justification of its invocation of article 51 is based on its recognition of the DPR & LPR as independent states, combined with articles 3 and 4 of the treaties "of friendship and cooperation and mutual assistance" (Luhansk, Donetsk) ratified by the State Duma on February 22nd, which enshrines a commitment to mutual defence. The UN Charter explicitly recognises the right of collective self-defence in Article 51:”

https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/71675/on-what-grounds-did-vladimir-putin-invoke-article-51-of-the-un-charter-for-self

For example - Putin claims [snip].

Well, if Ukaine was so intent on attacking its own citizens, [snip]

This the hallmark of the uninformed, it's not about Putin, Russia is not Putin.

As for the Russia using precision attacks [snip] I'm can't respond to all the bluster, especially since I didn't make that claim.

Then there's the whole "de-Nazification of Ukraine" [snip] “Stepan Bandera Avenue” leads up to the place where tens of thousands of Jews were murdered by OUN thugs. Why would a non-nazi failed state name a road after a Nazi collaborator other than the obvious reason, they thought he was "national hero".

Yep, the USA [snip].

The US is not a democracy, it has nuked, raped, murdered, napalmed, and cluster bombed it’s way across the planet, only people who see the people destroyed by the US as lesser people could suggest otherwise. A genocidal settler colony in its founding and a force for evil all around the world, supporting Apartheid in Palestine, and South Africa. Responsible for death and destruction, and very little of value in the world.

As a non-bigot I tend to sperate the 300 odd millon yanks from their government, and don't say that racist zionist biden is America.

If Russians [snip] I don’t imagine they care what we think.

You are thoroughly propagandized, to the point that you ignore the nazi’s the evidence, in 2018 the idea that Nazi were in Ukraine was not hidden - https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2018-07-09/ty-article/rights-groups-demand-israel-stop-arming-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine/0000017f-e080-d7b2-a77f-e3870e1c0000

Maybe you just need to step outside of your bubble a little, watch news in a language other than USAian.

I'm sure that Russian outfit Reuters has a slant on it.

Commentary: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem

As Ukraine’s struggle against Russia and its proxies continues, Kiev must also contend with a growing problem behind the front lines: far-right vigilantes who are willing to use intimidation and even violence to advance their agendas, and who often do so with the tacit approval of law enforcement agencies.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUKKBN1GV2TY