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Fujitsu confirms end date for mainframe and Unix systems

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Re: Support for five more years ?

“Your Crisis is not my emergency”

Fujitsu evaluated the business case for *developing new mainframe chips*, and decided there wasn’t one. Back in 2017, when they decided to stop after SPARC64 XII. Five years later, it’s five years later. I’m not sure how this comes as a surprise to anybody.

IBM Power 10 is out now (on Samsung 7nm) to power the IBM z16 this year. A chip that complex probably cost IBM 1-2billion to develop. There is a roadmap for POWER11 in 2026, which would likely go on 3nm. If they strip the development absolutely to the bone, and just go for a pure die-shrink (zero new stuff) and packaged chiplets, they can probably keep the development costs under 5billion. But if there were to be a POWER12 on 1nm…..there’s just no way that is costing less than 20billion. For sales of only 2.5bn a year. POWER12 is just never going to happen, and I suspect that POWER11 might not either if IBM had stronger management.

Mainframes might be great for your business, but the development costs are ballooning beyond any credible ongoing business case.

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