Re: Thanks to the Vaxxed
I'm not disagreeing with you but I have to take issue with that point.
You're meant to. But it's also part of the problem. Focus is now on making sure everyone is vaccinated, regardless of medical need. Or whether it's a good idea (ADE again).
That's a pretty rough comparison because the figures are not broken down into who the people dying are, ages, underlying conditions etc, but it's a significant difference that shows just having the vaccine doesn't mean you are safe..
Exactly. But there's also the problem with stats, and PR again. Dead within 28 days of a positive test (or vaccination) and covid killed you. Or the vaccine did. Or covid made up some (or none) contributing factor to the death. As you say, there are many cofactors that might have been involved that make the situation more complicated than declaring 'cases', or covid deaths.
Throwing vaccinations, and mutations into the mix just makes attribution a whole lot harder. Delta's apparently more transmissable, but less lethal. Typing the variant takes time & costs money, so may not get done. So it then gets harder to say with confidence that milder cases are due to a milder strain, vaccination, natural immunity, treatment regimes or a combination of all of those.
But politics, the media and other vested interests don't necessarily understand that, and so prefer simple messaging. Get vaccinated, or lose your job! Even if the vaccination offers no benefit, and represents an additional risk. Which in the case of vaccinating kids, especially with the mRNA vaccines is pretty much an unknown long-term risk.
Despite being vaccinated myself, the natural immunity issue is still an important one. It means a person may have better immunity than a vaccine offers, so the vaccine is pointless. As is curtailing any rights for the naturally immune person. So there's an aspect of non-science public policy in forcing vaccinations on people who don't need them, which isn't the way medecine is supposed to work. But again, the problem is identifying those people. One way is to assume that a positive PCR test means natural immunity, but when PCR testing was done too aggressively, that might be an incorrect assumption, along with the way it inflated 'cases'.