Reply to post: Re: Why are the x86 Macs slow?

Apple now Arm'd to the teeth: MacBook Air and Pro, Mac mini to be powered by custom M1 chips rather than Intel

Dan 55 Silver badge

Re: Why are the x86 Macs slow?

You are here arguing that Apple copy-pasting an Intel reference design and practically hermetically sealing the CPU inside a laptop of their own design which has no air flow which Intel has no control over is a good thing and anyone who complains obviously doesn't get it.

You are also arguing that undervolting the CPU in software to try and retain some performance in temperature conditions which would normally make it throttle back to below base clock speed is also a good thing instead of it being obviously another fix for the same cause - terrible thermal design.

My 2012 MacBook Pro had to be taken back (happily a few days before one year after purchase) because it has the well known GPU-frying problem. And no, it wasn't covered by the extended guarantee because they non-retina discrete graphics version is not covered by the extended guarantee.

Heck, there's someone else here saying if they want to make their Mac run hot all they need to do is plug in an external display (and give the GPU more work), plugging in an external display was never contemplated in their thermal design.

The internet is replete with stories about Apple's problems with heat, so much so that the adage about the plural of anecdote is data holds true. By the way, Louis Rossmann's job is not a YouTube celebrity but a business where he does fix people's hardware problems and he does it well otherwise he wouldn't be in business. The YouTube videos are done on the side to bring in more business.

I have no doubt they will finally get on top of their thermal design problems after more than a decade or having them, but not because they've fixed the thermal design, simply because the M1's power consumption is lower than Intel so it chucks out less heat. Over a decade of workarounds because they couldn't come up with a laptops that cool as they should (extended guarantees due to heat problems are documented so you can't handwave that away)... until they finally fixed them by changing the CPU.

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