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Google security engineer says she was fired for daring to remind Googlers they do indeed have labor rights

Dal90

Re: Can someone please explain...

> "right to work" state. This delightful bit of Doublespeak says that you don't have to give an employer any notice

Complete bollocks.

You've confused at-will and right-to-work.

At will employment predominates in the U.S. with narrow exceptions. You can fire anyone, anytime, without notice, for any reason other than membership in certain legally protected classes and situations. Those classes and situations can vary a bit from state to state.

One state (Montana) nominally has a just-cause law that one can only be fired for just cause following a six month probationary period (during which employment is at-will). However, one of the "just causes" to fire someone is "legitimate business reasons." Loophole, meet truck. Truck, drive through loophole.

Right-to-Work is used to describe legislation that eliminates Union & Agency shops.

Closed shops require you be a member of the union to gain or continue employment; those were outlawed by Taft-Hartley act. Union shops require a person join the union after being hired, and Agency requires a person pay union fees for contract negotiations even if not a member. Taft-Hartley gave states the authority to outlaw Union & Agency shops.

Which leaves Right-To-Work states with the Open shops were employees may be a member of a union, but can not fired for not being a member of the union (as in Closed & Union shops) and can not be fired for refusing to pay agency fees to the union (Agency shops).

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