Reply to post: Re: A bit out of date?

Electric cars can't cut UK carbon emissions while only the wealthy can afford to own one

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Re: A bit out of date?

"The only difference is range, and from personal experience that is a red herring for almost all OF MY usage patterns."


I just checked, and it looks like the average low temperature in the a couple of English towns, and the average monthly lows never get below 0 degrees - not even freezing.

You live in a small, warm country with a dense population and cities whose layout developed before the automobile became significant.

If you live in a much larger, colder, more dispersed country with cities largely built after WW2, the use cases are substantially different.

For that matter, that your use cases are satisfied by EVs means very little about how well they may work for other people.

Your country has a population density one to two orders of magnitude greater than some other countries, and it is the 78th largest country. That combined with the pre-automotive structure of city layouts means that your geographic micro-structure tends to put things close together. For most of the people on the planet, countries are larger and things are farther apart. EVs are in no way a general solution for transportation.

Someone will be tempted to suggest trains as an alternative to EVs. Given Britain's early adoption of steam locomotives, and the resulting urban geography and social expectations, you are much more heavily invested in rail transport... and you have the population densities to make it relatively affordable, due to high use and short distances. Large parts of the world use cell phones because they can't afford to build a phone network, let alone railways, so that isn't a general solution either.

Hydrogen is a bit inconvenient, for several reasons.

That means the best solution is probably IC or EC vehicles, using a liquid fuel. There are a large number of options, particularly for EC vehicles which, among other benefits, do not have an issue with nitrogen chemicals.

If you are somewhat resourceful, there are a number of ways of deriving the carbon in such fuels from atmospheric carbon dioxide, thus making them net zero carbon in operation. Furthermore, existing infrastructure can be used to transport and distribute those fuels.

The future isn't likely to be all EVs or even mostly EVs. It will be carbon captured fuels.

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