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Euro eggheads call it: Facebook political ads do change voters' minds – and they worked rather well for Trump in 2016

Jamie Jones Silver badge

@The Tick

Ahhhh, typical ignorant response from a brexitter.

"The Tick", you posted so many easily demonstrative lies, I don't know where to start.

You guys keep thinking you're the clever ones despite wanting to stick to an avowedly anti-democratic and anti-human rights EU with no hope of reform.

Anti-democratic? All the MEPs are voted in democratically.

You mean "anti-democratic for the UK"? Well, there are 73 British MEPs - all voted for by us.

Are there more non-UK MEPs in total than UK MEPs? Of course. If you think that is undemocratic, then Wales isn't in a democracy because there are less Welsh MPs than non-Welsh MPs.... Gettit?

And yes, a lot of work is done by unelected civil servants..... Just as it is in the UK - Do you really think everyone that works for government has been voted for? UK civil servants are employees.

"human-rights" - Most of the recent significant rules improving human rights have come from the EU, not the UK. In fact, the UK challenged the EU's complaint that the government was doing groundless slurping of UK citizens data.

All while the UK is still in the EU and subject to EU rules with it's free movement of Kalashnikovs.

Firstly, "freedom of movement" doesn't mean "freedom from checks". Unless you are implying that the EU mandates than anyone can cross borders carrying Kalashnikovs - without passport control stopping them, then I assume you are refering to the Schengen Area (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area) which allows unchecked movement across borders.

The UK IS NOT part of the Schengen agreement

We do NOT have to have open borders (Ireland is our choice)

Why the hell do you think immigrants try to smuggle themselves into lorries, or sneak through the channel tunnel if we have unrestricted open borders?

Now, we *are* subject to free movement rules for Europeans (free movement DOES NOT mean no border checks) but as an aside, if you're worried about "Europeans sponging off our benefits", I assume you don't know that if a foreign EU citizen can't financially sustain themselves after 3 months, the UK can legally deport them.

From DIRECTIVE 2004/38/EC OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL, sub-paragraph 9 (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32004L0038)

(9) Union citizens should have the right of residence in the host Member State for a period not exceeding three months without being subject to any conditions or any formalities other than the requirement to hold a valid identity card or passport, without prejudice to a more favourable treatment applicable to job-seekers as recognised by the case-law of the Court of Justice."

The fact the UK hasn't acted on this is entirely due to the UK government, not the EU.

FINALLY...

That's 4 or 5 complete untruths in just 2 posts of yours.

I have to asume you are down right lying, as whilst being wrong or being misinformed or being ignorant would be tolerable in many situations, you obviously made sure you were well aware of the facts before voting, right?

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