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'No deal better than bad deal' approach to Brexit 'unsubstantiated'

Roland6 Silver badge

Re: Fed up @codejunky

@Codejunky - I think you are too attached to the referendum result, forgetting it isn't a football match...

The referendum result was not an overwhelming result one way or the other, it was well within the bounds of a statistically normal random result.

Cameron, at the time represented the Conservative party and the Executive/Government of the day not Parliament, Parliament was only bound by the legislation, which defined the referendum as 'advisory'. As we live in a representative democracy, where Parliament is supposed to act in the interests of the nation as a whole, including those that voted for alternative representatives, Parliament/Westminster doesn't actually have a democratic mandate for changing the status quo...

The country can be sold without the peoples support but not returned with the peoples support.

Nigel Farage in his multi-year campaigning for the UK electorate to have a vote on EU membership (ie. not the Leave/Remain campaign itself) had it right: The mess (with respect to the EU) is wholly attributable to Westminster and it is Westminster that has to sort it out. By deciding to press ahead with Brexit, without any real public debate May et al are trying to avoid the real issue: the real democratic accountability of Westminster to the electorate and not just the periodic charade of accountability through the ballot box.

I wonder how many of this view complain the government doesnt listen to the people while demanding the gov doesnt listen.

If you think that May and the Conservatives are listening to those who voted leave then you are deluding yourself, they aren't. They are following their own agenda, as May and her Brexiteers have made clear with the meaningless soundbite: "Brexit means Brexit" and in the ways they have tried and are using to avoid involving both Parliament and the public - using exactly the same tricks as were used by previous Executives to get Parliament's assent to EU treaties and to avoid public scrutiny of what exactly they are up to...

I hope the EU fully delivers on their openness promise and permits full live video coverage of the Brexit negotiations, it will be a shock to many people just how incompetent our Westminster representatives are, when it comes to real details and actual decision making.

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