Reply to post: Seymour Papert's "Mindstorms" - a good, no - a /great read/ ... inspirational ...

Vale, LOGO creator Seymour Papert, who taught us that code can be creative play

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Seymour Papert's "Mindstorms" - a good, no - a /great read/ ... inspirational ...

Papert believed "that children can learn to use computers in a masterful way and that learning to use computers can change the way they learn everything else. Even outside the classroom, Papert had a vision that the computer could be used just as casually and as personally for a diversity of purposes throughout a person's entire life. Seymour Papert makes the point that in classrooms saturated with technology there is actually more socialization and that the technology often contributes to greater interaction among students and among students and instructors."[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindstorms_(book)

from the article here ...

"The current generation of bright kids are teaching themselves, and teaching one another, using the Web for learning and sharing. Then they take what they’ve learned and apply it to the problems they see in the world, problems they absolutely believe they can solve with their own creativity."

Wouldn't it be great if we could now close down all the schools, now they're no longer needed because the only things they can teach there will be history before the current generation have any use for them. That and outdated propaganda** which is positively harmful in this 21st century ...

Read an article somewhere where the researchers left some kind of tablet computers in and around a basically illiterate /slum community, went back a month or so later, and found so many people had learned to read and a great deal more ...

**what should be said to every child, repeatedly, throughout his or her school life is something like this: 'You are in the process of being indoctrinated. We have not yet evolved a system of education that is not a system of indoctrination. We are sorry, but it is the best we can do. What you are being taught here is an amalgam of current prejudice and the choices of this particular culture. The slightest look at history will show how impermanent these must be. You are being taught by people who have been able to accommodate themselves to a regime of thought laid down by their predecessors. It is a self-perpetuating system. Those of you who are more robust and individual than others will be encouraged to leave and find ways of educating yourself — educating your own judgments. Those that stay must remember, always, and all the time, that they are being molded and patterned to fit into the narrow and particular needs of this particular society.' "

— Doris Lessing (The Golden Notebook)

Universal education through schooling is not feasible. It would be no more feasible if it were attempted by means of alternative institutions built on the style of present schools. Neither new attitudes of teachers toward their pupils nor the proliferation of educational hardware or software (in classroom or bedroom), nor finally the attempt to expand the pedagogue's responsibility until it engulfs his pupils' lifetimes will deliver universal education. The current search for new educational funnels must be reversed into the search for their institutional inverse: educational webs which heighten the opportunity for each one to transform each moment of his living into one of learning, sharing, and caring. We hope to contribute concepts needed by those who conduct such counterfoil research on education--and also to those who seek alternatives to other established service industries. -- Ivan Illich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deschooling_Society

Society's problems arise directly out of educational systems ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School-to-prison_pipeline

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