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Spied upon by GCHQ? You'll need proof before a court will hear you...

Anonymous Coward
Anonymous Coward

TTIP?

Well look, IPT is not a court, its one of these pseudo legal things outside the judicial process to keep the spooks outside legal challenges. That might have been tolerable when the spooks were concentrating on non-UK targets, but now they're spying on UK, that makes this tribunal more a danger to the UK than protecting it.

The obvious parallel here is the TTIP trade agreement and its Tribunal of Corporate Lawyers that can overturn national laws at the behest of Corps. Again, another pseudo court to avoid legal challenges, outside the democracy.

Another point is ECHR's and its EU equivalent the ECJ, have a National Security exemption for basic rights, *but* IPT don't get to decide if they can apply the exemption, ECHR/ECJ do. So exhausting the rubber stamping body's process is likely to speed things up. Since they can't fight up in the higher court till they've exhausted the lower court process.

"Judicial Process" is a name used to label a specific hierarchy of law enforcement bodies. It's not "anything done by a judge". The big brown log a judge leaves in the toilet after a curry is not a "judicial process" just because its a process done by a judge! These tribunals and bodies are intended to appear as a judicial process, but are more akin to the Jalfrezi floater.

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