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Big Pharma wrote EU anti-vaping diktat, claims Tory ex-MEP

Steven Raith

So why aren't we seeing that in emissions testings of e-liquids in lab tests, in any measure that is worth worrying about compared to smoking a cigarette?

Because the thing is, when you're using an e-cig, you're not just heating raw nicotine - you're vapourising a PG/VG base that contains USP grade nicotine, which is (presumably) different to your unmentioned production method.

Again I state, the issue is not 'are there nasty things in here' - it's 'are there nasty things in here that are at a level that is

A: A danger to human health in normal dosages expected

B: Even close to that found in lit tobacco.'

Burning toast will produce carcinogens, as will charring a steak on the outside, but you don't see people calling for toasters or flame grills to be banned - because the levels produced are minuscule and not worth worrying about in the real world.

From the perspective of a smoker - and that is the perspective that is required as use of vapour products among non-smokers is miniscule - the risks are still reduced massively from those of lit tobacco.

As you're the one calling for them to be banned, some perspective might be required. Cigarettes contain 50+ carcinogens in biologially significant doses and are freely available everywhere in the world. You suggest that e-cigs should be banned because they *may* contain one carcinogen based on your unrelated work with nicotine for producers of lit tobacco (I assume so, as opposed to things like nicotine patches) with nothing to back up whether it's even a significant amount that might pose a risk to human health.

So what we have is an anecdote - and that is all it is - calling for a ban on e-cigs that doesn't provide any context in terms of dosage or representative harm to human health, fails to compare to the only other alternative to vapour products (lit tobacco) in terms of risk profile, and from that we can infer that your understanding of harm reduction is at best, minimal, and at worst, utterly laughable.

Are you sure you don't work in Tobacco Control? You certainly fit the profile.

Steven R

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