Reply to post: Re: Chicken & Egg Problem

nbn tries to shift the conversation to future copper upgrades

mathew42
FAIL

Re: Chicken & Egg Problem

> Only works if you are supplying the same level of service to everyone.

Guess what water pressure varies also. If you are close to a distribution point, then it is likely that 2-3 people can shower at the same time. If you are further away then only one person can shower and running the washing machine won't work.

> Hang on 78% using 25Mbps or less. So what you are claiming is we should go back to 56k

Firstly it is 79% choosing 25Mbps or slower.

Did you miss the example I gave of the elderly being able to stay in their homes longer with HD video conferencing? My point is we should set a minimum standard, and anything beyond that standard should be priced accordingly. 79% selecting 25Mbps or slower suggests that this is a reasonable standard, that the general public agree with.

Your argument is "I want 1Gbps internet, so we should build a FTTP network. The fact that 79% are connecting at the unacceptably slow 25Mbps speed is irrelevant." This argument has been rejected by the Australian public. If your argument had been "The minimum speeds required to achieve these benefits (e.g. eHealth, eLearning, etc.) is 100Mbps but 1Gbps is preferable" then FTTP would be the only option.

> $56B for an upto 25Mbps (1Mbps faster than ADSL2) when only $8B more for a 100Mbps service.

First it is a minimum of 25Mbps on FTTN and for most connections significantly faster. Your need to retreat to 56Kbps arguments shows up that we do need a minimum standard for speed. The question is should it be 25Mbps or a faster speed?

Second the $8B is tax payer funds, whereas fibre on demand is your own hard cash. Compare this with the health system where the public hospitals set a minimum standard and people can opt for private health care which offers more comfort and better service.

http://theconversation.com/what-are-better-public-or-private-hospitals-54338

> Doesn't matter that it might take them a week which could be done in a couple of minutes.

Actually it does matter because just about all the benefits touted by Labor as reasons for building the NBN were real-time, not volume of data downloaded. Video conferencing is a prime example of this.

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