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Switch it off and on again: How peers failed to sneak Snoopers' Charter into terror bill

SImon Hobson Bronze badge

You can read it for yourself

The Hansard transcript can be read here :

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/lords/?id=2015-01-26a.12.6#g33.0

You will see that the first few speeches in favour are all from "institution men" - pen who have in one way or another been (or still are) connected with the services that supposedly want these extra powers.

But if you read down, you'll see that several peers spoke eloquently about why the amendment was a bad idea - between them they've pointed out that the bill this attempts to resurrect was killed after damning criticism, that it's an abuse of process to try and squeeze it in this way, that it would severely undermine what little respect people have for the law enforcement/security services, and that in fact the "poster child" events cited as to why the new rules are needed are actually already catered for by existing legislation.

Lord Strasburger really kicks off the opposition, and then others line up to support him. Baroness Lane-Fox of Soho and Baroness Warsi make particularly compelling speeches - the latter making a point about the impact of profiling and how the effects can alienate the very people we need support from.

And Baroness Ludford makes a point that GCHQ seems to do what they like regardless of what the law allows !

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