I'd be interested
to see how this compares to private sector pay for similar posts.
Senior IT officials among top paid civil servants
Seven senior IT officials are on the newly published list of top paid civil servants. In the list published by the government to provide greater transparency of high earners' salaries, Joe Harley, IT director general and chief information officer (CIO) at the Department for Work and Pensions, comes out top of the information …
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Tuesday 1st June 2010 14:08 GMT Anonymous Coward
How many know much about IT
The know plenty because that's why they get the jobs... and if you don't like management then tough. Techies are plentiful, managers are plentiful. Get a techie manager, well that's much rarer. Joe Harley in particular knows plenty IT than you and he can manage multi-billion pound budgets.
If someone can reduce an IT budget by £150million with increasing service quality he's probably worth 0.2% of the savings don't you think?
the fact that just because someone earns a couple of hundred grand more than you doesn't mean you can do his job, anymore than you could replace Frank Lampard.
There are some people who are just good - accept it and move on .
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Tuesday 1st June 2010 14:53 GMT EvilGav 1
Entirely agree . . .
. . . except this is the civil service, which has never brought a project in on time or on budget or with the scope even close to what was originally promised.
They have also never made savings.
So, tell me again why they get paid close on double the major private sector IT directors (n.b. thats IT directors not in the IT industry, which would be comparing like for like).
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Tuesday 1st June 2010 13:35 GMT Anonymous Coward
Ah good. Now for the next stages...
Step 1 - to identify ring-fenced employees in the public sector (ring-fencing is one way to maintain a level of income that is not commensurate to the job. Example: someone on a salary of £30k doing a job valued at £20k).
It is more widespread than you or I might imagine.
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Step 2 - trash NUPE
I think there are at least two ways in which NUPE can be trashed and both of these hinge upon evidential basis of public sector not upholding basic principles in NUPE thus making the 'special case' argument and NUPE itself null and void by public sector actions.
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Tuesday 1st June 2010 14:52 GMT Anonymous Coward
What?
So step 1 seems to be talking about the mix of people:
- Those whose jobs have been reorganized out of existence but get a few years grace at their old salary doing a new job rather than expensively making them redundant, which is pretty common in most large organizations and is basically a sign of basic decency and good sense any employer
- Those like IT staff who would be placed at low low salaries according to public sector pay norms, but actually have to be paid rather nearer the market rate in order to get anybody to do the job. Try getting rid of them and watch everything break.
Not sure whether step 2 is a rant about a union that ceased to exist 17 years ago or a racist sideswipe at some Nigerians to be honest
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Tuesday 1st June 2010 19:04 GMT Anonymous Coward
NUPE?
Well, the UK public sector has had its pensions and entitlements protected as part of parliamentary business in House of Commons.
At the same time the UK public sector seeks to erode and undermine the principles that pensions and entitlements are worth protecting hence making the act of parliament null and void in practice?
It has history in sense that UK public sector employees want entitlements protecting as well as job transfers when those public sectors are put into the private sector. So, if a public service is transferred from public provisioning to private provisioning most (if not all) of those employees will be transferred with the business AND have entitlements protected.
(It may be TUPE from NUPE?)
(I don't think that makes it any clearer to understand?)
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Biting the hand that feeds IT
