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US authorities have charged FTX co-founder Sam Bankman-Fried (aka SBF) with attempting to bribe Chinese officials with $40 million worth of cryptocurrency in exchange for unfreezing trading accounts. The indictment [PDF] alleges the Chinese government froze over $1 billion worth of Alameda Research digital assets and that …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Magic beans?

    Anyone?

  2. Captain Scarlet
    Facepalm

    Unfortunately The Register did not make the cut.

    What will he do without being able to access the List of Reg Standards

  3. Little Mouse

    So... What's to stop Mum & Dad popping down to the store to buy a cheap laptop?

    1. lglethal Silver badge
      Trollface

      The loss of $250 million in bail money, and a likely trip before the Beak to face charges of helping someone break their bail conditions.

      Then again, I can imagine a few parents who would be less than understanding if the kids wanted to move back in, so maybe that would be an easy way to get the house back to themselves...

      1. imanidiot Silver badge

        "The crypto bro is not allowed to use mom and dad's devices, which are password protected and equipped with monitoring software that photographs the user's face every five minutes."

        This alone would have been enough for me to tell my sprog to get lost and face the music. I'd also be hanging my head in shame wondering where the hell I went wrong. Here's hoping SBF gets everything he deserves (a small cell, for the rest of his life).

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          My only question is if it is the prison service that is investigating means to make people live longer. The whole 155 years nonsense just translates to 'life' so I don't know why they bother.

          Maybe the bigger the number the smaller the cell? In that case I hope they convict some of their politicians to life standing upright in a box, especially the orange one.

          1. Steve Button Silver badge

            I'm really no fan* of "the orange one", but seriously there are bigger alleged criminals in Washington. They are just greasing the palms of the right people, in the style of SBF. So, I agree with your comment, but just not the last bit "especially the orange one"

            As far as I'm aware Orange Man is about to be arrested for something which is just a misdemeanor. They keep trying to convict him of something or other, but none of it seems to stick. Either he's super careful, or he's not actually doing that much which is illegal? Strange how he got raided by the FBI for having secret documents, but when Biden does exactly the same thing it all blows over pretty quickly and isn't that bad after all?

            American politics is fucking weird, I don't get it!?

            I'd be more worried about the son of the president taking a milti-million $$ "consultancy" with a Ukrainian oil company.

            But I guess actual facts don't matter and you just care about which party your corrupt politicians work for (HINT: They are ALL corrupt - it's how your system works. You could fix that by severely limiting donations to parties, and making is punishable not to declare all donations.)

            * I think he was right about Germans being dependant on Russian Gas and the WHO being driven by Chinese interests. Perhaps a couple of other things I've forgotten. About everything else I think he was wrong.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Strange how he got raided by the FBI for having secret documents, but when Biden does exactly the same thing it all blows over pretty quickly and isn't that bad after all?

              Trump got raided after a months long series of official requests to return the documents known to be in his possession, and the suspicion that there was more was confirmed where the formally approved raid turned up a lot more than was previously even assumed, whereas the discovery of a stray protectively marked document (as the UK calls it) in Biden's case immediately led to the correct procedures being followed, including REQUESTING further searches to ensure there were no other documents, just to be sure (and some were found and returned).

              In Trump's case, even more were found after his lawyer asserted in writing "Tha, tha, that's all folks!" (to quote a cartoon) and said lawyer is now in the dock for that.

              So, one was wilful illegal retention after repeated opportunities to come clean, and where any allusion that it was all accidental was quickly eradicated by the activity that followed on the request to return the documents, whereas in Biden's case correct process was followed. Mistakes can happen, but if you then get people to hide the documents you (a) knew damn well you had them and (b) you also prove you have no intention to hand them back until forced.

              Why is a question, but given his connections and the fact that quite a few folders were empty I would venture a guess that he had not quite finished copying them.

              1. Steve Button Silver badge

                Look, I can't stand the man. I just think it's possible he's not the worst crook. Perhaps the others are just better at hiding it? The man is mostly a fucking idiot. He openly acts like a mafia boss.

                Isn't the Biden documents thing the same game / same ballpark? It wasn't a couple of documents, was it? We're talking boxes? How do you "accidentally" put a bunch of secret documents into your own garage?

                I don't know why I'm even defending this clown. I retract my previous statement. Lock him up.

                1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

                  Lock him up ? Completely agree.

                  The major difference between the OHSG and Biden is that Biden cooperated every step of the way. The asshole, on the other hand, lied every step of the way (as usual).

                  That's why nobody is talking about Biden's case any more. There's nothing more to say.

                2. Anonymous Coward
                  Anonymous Coward

                  >How do you "accidentally" put a bunch of secret documents into your own garage?

                  You leave office as VP, the staff bundle up all the office documents including notes you made of meetings you were at, if those meetings discussed 'secret' the notes are 'secret'

                  Remember in the USA most of government is political, so it's like all of the civil service being replaced when you swap party, so all documents that aren't official government records have to be removed so the other party don't get them.

            2. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              I assume stoking an insurrection is but a mere nuisance in your world then?

              Just curious.

              1. Steve Button Silver badge

                Not a mere nuisance, and some people in Antifa and the CIA should do serious jail time for that crime.

                1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

                  >Not a mere nuisance, and some people in Antifa and the CIA should do serious jail time for that crime.

                  Isn't stoking an insurrection and overthrowing democratic governments the CIA's job ?

            3. DS999 Silver badge

              The NYC case is small potatoes

              The Jan. 6 federal case and the state case in Georgia are dealing with a president trying to illegally steal an election to remain in power. You can't get more serious than that. I would argue that's easily more serious than any school shooting or serial killer, more serious even than 9/11 because if he had succeeded the US would no longer be a democracy.

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: The NYC case is small potatoes

                The US is a representative republic. It is not a democracy.

                A bit like how silly people claim the nordic countires are socialist.

                1. DS999 Silver badge

                  Re: The NYC case is small potatoes

                  Pointless nitpick. If Trump had his way then voting would be meaningless, and the US would be an autocracy.

                  1. Anonymous Coward
                    Anonymous Coward

                    Re: The NYC case is small potatoes

                    Um you do know that the US is pretty much an autocracy? Sleepy Joe ruling by executive order. (or rather his handlers)

                    You've just got the MSM telling you otherwise.

                    1. YetAnotherLocksmith Silver badge

                      Re: The NYC case is small potatoes

                      You were fine with trump signing thousands of executive orders, but you're not fine with Biden revoking them? Interesting... Are you Russian to trump's defence every day? Or is today special?

                      1. Anonymous Coward
                        Anonymous Coward

                        Re: The NYC case is small potatoes

                        Are you china defend Sleepy Joe?

                        I'm not fine with rule by executive order by anyone but I believe Sleepy Joe has the record for the most signed in the first 100 days. Costing the US taxpayer trillions of dollars and cosying up to his corporate overlords in the process.

                    2. Jellied Eel Silver badge

                      Re: The NYC case is small potatoes

                      Um you do know that the US is pretty much an autocracy? Sleepy Joe ruling by executive order. (or rather his handlers)

                      Joe is the best. Easy to control, just keep him in ice cream. He likes ice cream. Keep his fridge full, and he'll say whatever you want. He's also immune to the brain-freeze people get from eating ice cream. What a guy!

                      Or, it could be that Joe has outlived his usefulness. His ramblings about ice cream and being Dr Jill's wife were curious. The MSM were presumably told to cut over to Joe for a reassuring message from the President of the most powerful nation in the world. And they got ice cream. I've seen previous stuff where this has happened, and it's usually been handled better.. Stick a place holder saying "Please stand by for a statement from POTUS". Meanwhile, his handlers can be reloading the autocue (or Neurolink) with a prepared, statesman-like statement. Instead, it cut straight to a guy who looked blissfully unaware of why he was there.

                      I kinda wonder if his handlers are trying to tell us something, and that was a setup. No, you don't want a second term.

                      1. Anonymous Coward
                        Anonymous Coward

                        Re: The NYC case is small potatoes

                        Now we know why Nancy keeps her two freezers full of ice cream.

          2. Hans Neeson-Bumpsadese Silver badge

            Life imprisonment

            A friend of mine lives in a very old house, which has an oubliette under the living room floor - that always struck me as a very cost-effective means of imprisonment. In more recent times it apparently served as an useful tool of pursuasion when dealing with recalcitrant children.

            1. YetAnotherLocksmith Silver badge

              Re: Life imprisonment

              He's better be happy and eat his mushed veg when he's old and a bit senile, else the kids might remember that...

            2. Jellied Eel Silver badge

              Re: Life imprisonment

              A friend of mine lives in a very old house, which has an oubliette under the living room floor

              Ok, I'm jealous. It's a fun word to say, and a more useful feature than developers include in many 'luxury' homes. Also perfect to integrate with technological advances like Ring door cameras, trap-doors, slides, and automatic leopard feeders. Perfect for dealing with unwanted door-to-door salespeople!

              (think I'd link mine to a door system that borrows from telephone IVR systems, and prompts visitors with pertinent questions like "Are you trying to sell me something?" and "Do you know what an oubliette is?" Might even be able to make it legal(ish) and avoid charges of false imprisonment if you incorporate some escape room puzzles, or maybe just some mechanism for depositing unwanted callers away from your property. Hmm.. a humane trebuchet perhaps?)

          3. doublelayer Silver badge

            "The whole 155 years nonsense just translates to 'life' so I don't know why they bother."

            Usually because the crimes in question don't allow for life sentences or place restrictions on when you can have them, but when you add up all the fixed terms that the crimes do call for, you get a big number. It still has meaning, because if you only did one of them, you could get a 5-15 year sentence which is not life and the effective life sentence only comes when you have a bunch of them. Also, there are regulations that apply to fixed-term sentences that don't apply to indefinite ones, which is another reason why indefinite terms have to be authorized in the statutes.

            They tend to run as many charges in one trial as they can, so if the jury finds him guilty on all of the counts, the sentence can be a very high number, but if they acquit him on some of the charges, it would be much shorter. At the rate he's going, they're going to have to get him off of most of the charges for it not to be an effective life sentence.

          4. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            More pertinently, 1 in 3 congresspersons and recorded as having accepted donations from FTX or its employees. At least 11 members of the House Financial Services Committee accepted donations. Those are the people who are supposed to regulate FTX in the interests of the people. What they accepted were bribes for favor, and the is selling out Democracy. Yet they are getting off without even a warning. It is sickening.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Nothing new. Bernie Madoff did similar. Slip some cash to the right people and everyone turns a blind eye.

              The US isn't a democracy and with the DC elite uniparty in charge nothing is going to change.

        2. Jellied Eel Silver badge

          This alone would have been enough for me to tell my sprog to get lost and face the music. I'd also be hanging my head in shame wondering where the hell I went wrong. Here's hoping SBF gets everything he deserves (a small cell, for the rest of his life).

          I doubt it. Take a selfie in Capitol Hill, get locked up in solitary. Steal billions, get house arrest. As he already appears to have broken his bail conditions and committed further crimes, why isn't he now in jail? Prosecuters could perhaps waive the $250m bond, or pursue that.

          1. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

            why isn't he now in jail?

            The phrase "giving him enough rope top hang himself" metaphorically springs to mind.

        3. Dave@Home

          Well this is awkward

          It seems your bail conditions have been breached as we got a clear picture of your fathers junk while he was engaged in a furious bout of self abuse

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Well this is awkward

            Nah, he's merely trying to up his footstep count on his Fitbit.

            :)

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Well this is awkward

            The problem was they got 2 hours worth of pictures during that furious bout, as he had a photo of SBF's girlfriend on the screen at the time.

        4. Youngone Silver badge

          Here's hoping SBF gets everything he deserves (a small cell, for the rest of his life).

          Why? All he did was steal some (mostly imaginary) money.

          Send him the prison by all means, but I can't see why taxpayers should have to fund his lifestyle for ever.

          1. YetAnotherLocksmith Silver badge

            They already were. Or at least, the small investors who got stolen from, were.

            The extra 0.00001% on the prison budget won't bother a single taxpayer, since its likely a "for profit" prison he'll be sent to.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    He bribed the CCP?

    I think he had that the wrong way around.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: He bribed the CCP?

      His mistake was using funny money.

      Maybe if he'd done that with fiat currency (or, as it's China, BYD currency) he may have had more success.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: He bribed the CCP?

        If the CCP are the enemy and bribing people is bad = doesn't that make him the good guy?

  5. Howard Sway Silver badge

    The court hopes to control his use of messaging apps and virtual private networks

    I'd definitely be deterred if violating the order could get me another few years added on to my 155 year sentence.

    1. YetAnotherLocksmith Silver badge

      Re: The court hopes to control his use of messaging apps and virtual private networks

      I think the real threat would be him starting it a year early!

  6. ShortLegs

    Talking of security.... my password manager is urging me to change my pwd for TheRegister.

    (Apparently following a databreach at TheRegister two months ago.... oooh eer!)

    Where? There is nowhere in settings that allows me to change my passord.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      There is nowhere in settings that allows me to change my passord.

      Hmm. "Don't be silly, of course there is" I thought, since at some point in the last few years I had changed mine.

      But then I went to check, and if there is still such an option, it now seems to be non-trivially hidden. Does anyone know where it might have gone?

      1. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

        Re: There is nowhere in settings that allows me to change my passord.

        I just checked, you're right. Might want to poke management on the 'about' page.

    2. doublelayer Silver badge

      I guess you can always use the forgot your password system on the login page to do it, but they really should have an internal method for known password changes. I also don't remember hearing about a breech and a quick search didn't tell me about it. I visit this site a lot. I'd assume the chances of seeing a report if they posted it here would be high. Did your password manager have more information about when and how the breech happened and how they know about it?

    3. Andy Landy
      FAIL

      Apparently following a databreach at TheRegister two months ago

      hmm, that would explain the recent uptick in spam i've been receiving.

      if it's true then they've kept that quiet... a bit alarming to be finding out about this in the comments section... quis reportiet ipsos reportes?

  7. Bebu Silver badge

    He bribed the CCP?

    "I think he had that the wrong way around."

    As far as I can see he is a complete retard which doesn't say much about the intellect and acumen of those who were throwing billions of dollars at the fool. In a Forrest Gumpish way bribing the CCP might have worked :)

    If he is facing 150 years then he quite clearly lost the wrong people's lucre. Normally a white collar criminal who has pissed the hard earned of the polloi, up against the wall, gets little more than a slap on the wrist.

    Cryptovillain? Is it the villainy that is hidden? Bernie Madoff would be a Securitivillain or Ponzivillain but he definitely a lost a lot of the wrong people's cash.

    The villainous duo could share the same cell for the next 130 years.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: He bribed the CCP?

      >The villainous duo could share the same cell for the next 130 years.

      That's initially going to be a bit unpleasant, Madoff died a couple of years ago.

      Longer term it's a rather uneconomic use of a cell

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    bribing chinese officials people

    "US authorities have charged FTX co-founder Sam Bankman-Fried (aka SBF) with attempting to bribe Chinese officials with $40 million worth of cryptocurrency in exchange for unfreezing trading accounts."

    At this point, I doubt a couple of years on top of the hundreds of years he'll get behind bars will change anything for him. Nice to see chinese official people can be bribed with false money, though.

    "Alameda's credit limit at one point was $65 billion."

    Ah, yes, good risk management involves sensible cap for this, LOL.

    "He has denied stealing money, but acknowledges inadequate risk management."

    The bullshit is strong with him, no doubt.

  9. An_Old_Dog Silver badge
    Joke

    SBF Can't Do (Clothes) Laundering

    SBF is prohibited from using "any other cellphones, tablets, computers, videogames (including video game platforms and hardware) that permit chat or voice communication, or 'smart' devices with internet access."

    SBF: "But Mom, I can't do the laundry! Our washer and dryer are Internet-connected 'smart' devices!"

    1. Sceptic Tank Silver badge
      Facepalm

      Re: SBF Can't Do (Clothes) Laundering

      I suppose smoke signals and 2x tin cans and a string are also out.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "SBF had publicly proclaimed Alameda was nothing more than a "liquidity provider" to FTX... ...privately it was given the ability to maintain a negative balance, a multi-billion-dollar line of credit, and could borrow funds without collateral. Alameda's credit limit at one point was $65 billion."

    Borrowing $65 billion from someone is a strange way to "provide liquidity" to them.

    1. David 132 Silver badge
      Coat

      “Provide liquidity” is a fancy euphemism for “Pissing it all away”.

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