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Microsoft will officially kill its legacy free Teams app for business, Teams Free (classic), on April 12, with all chats, files and other data lost unless you switch to a paid version. News of the premium push on Microsoft's productivity app was covered by The Reg in January, but we're told some sysadmins on the free plan are …

  1. AMBxx Silver badge
    Facepalm

    Oh dear, Microsoft

    There seems to be no limit to the ways in which Microsoft's licensing department can make life more difficult for users of their software.

    1. The Man Who Fell To Earth Silver badge
      FAIL

      Re: Oh dear, Microsoft

      Who cares if the free version of Teams goes away? I, like most people, use Teams on my work PC because my employer uses Office as the company "Low Productivity Software" suite. In my personal life, my need for virtual meetings is several times per week from the non-profits I volunteer for, Church & family, and that's exclusively the free version of Zoom, which at this point, is much less problematic than Teams. The basic stuff Teams is lacking makes one wonder if Zoom is what they use internally at Microsoft. (e.g. Ability to test & adjust the microphone & speakers locally w/o making "a call".) In the last three years, there have been exactly two times a virtual meeting for something personal used Teams.

      What's been interesting to watch is how many of the vendors my company uses, many of which are companies that dwarf the one I work for, have moved off Teams over the last year or so. So to "meet" with them when they set up a meeting, we have to put stuff like Zoom & Webex (aurgh!) on our company PC's anyway.

      1. Paul Crawford Silver badge

        Re: Oh dear, Microsoft

        Webex always was the worst I knew of, but last time (few months back) I found it now works in a browser without stupid plug-in and it tasted less of donkey-balls.

      2. Version 1.0 Silver badge

        Re: Oh dear, Microsoft

        "It's not that Microsoft is cynical. It's rather that they have a wonderful lack of respect for everything and everybody." - a Brendan Behan quote updated (every one of his quotes needs virtually no big changes today).

      3. KimJongDeux

        Re: Oh dear, Microsoft

        I've given up Zoom in favour of Google Meet. Now THAT's simple.

    2. Paul Crawford Silver badge

      Re: Oh dear, Microsoft

      Its just another increment on the frog-boiling dial.

      Are you going to jump? Do you feel lucky, punk?

      1. NoneSuch Silver badge
        Windows

        Re: Oh dear, Microsoft

        I use Microsoft at work. At home, I have Linux and Open Source solutions to cover most of my personal needs. On retirement, MS will never see anything from me again.

        The last bastion of Microsoft is gaming. As soon as I can game on Linux, they will be given the last boot. Not installing Win11, Win10 is my last MS OS, come what may.

        1. werdsmith Silver badge

          Re: Oh dear, Microsoft

          Thanks for letting us know.

    3. Steve Davies 3 Silver badge
      Big Brother

      Re: Oh dear, Microsoft

      Must have been taking lessons from Oracle then?

  2. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Dealer

    It's like a mythical dealer giving out a few portions for free to get users hooked and then start charging them.

    Yay.

    But for a second I thought Nanoflaccid will be paying people to use Teams.

    1. Triggerfish

      Re: Dealer

      You beat me to it, I was just thinking their street crack model of software sales was working again.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Not the profile picture

    Instead of clicking the profile picture you have to click the three dots next to the profile picture. Perhaps we shouldn't blame the article as MS also get the help for their own software wrong and El Reg are hopefully using something better.

    1. captain veg Silver badge

      Re: Not the profile picture

      Clicking the profile picture appears to do the trick for me.

      However, it states "Teams for personal use", whatever that is. I'm using the native Linux client and logged in with my corporate email, which is linked to corporate O365.

      -A.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: Not the profile picture

        >Teams for personal use", whatever that is.

        It's teams but you can't connect to anyone else and nobody else can connect to you - personal, right?

        Somehow though it will remain insecure

  4. xyz Silver badge

    It'll probably be called

    Microsoft Teams Core by April, then Microsoft 365 Teams Core by June and Microsoft Teams XL by Xmas and there'll be about 10 different payment plans. Then the Skype mob will get a hold of it and make the UI completely baffling.

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Re: It'll probably be called

      Then the Skype mob will get a hold of it and make the UI completely baffling.

      Where have you been? That was a day one feature.

      1. Nik 2

        With apologies to the late Douglas Adams

        “There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly how the Teams UI works and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

        There is another theory which states that this has already happened.”

        1. KittenHuffer Silver badge

          Re: With apologies to the late Douglas Adams

          Several times!

          1. richardcox13

            Re: With apologies to the late Douglas Adams

            Many times!

            (FIFY)

            1. Anomalous Cowturd
              Happy

              Re: With apologies to the late Douglas Adams

              Many, many times.

              With apologies to "Round the Horne." Dame Celia Molestrangler, IIRC.

              1. Blitheringeejit
                Facepalm

                Re: With apologies to the late Douglas Adams

                Doesn't this happen on the second Tuesday of every month?

        2. Nik 2

          Re: With apologies to the late Douglas Adams

          Two months later, it's happening again

          https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/28/new_teams_client_preview/?td=rt-3a

    2. Someone Else Silver badge

      Re: It'll probably be called

      Then the Skype mob will get a hold of it and make the UI completely baffling.

      I'm not sure that the Skype mob is necessary (or sufficient) to do that.

      Or maybe it is that the Skype mob has already had its way with Teams?

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Was Teams Free (classic) the Skype for Business-rebrand? Or was the Skype lineage already extinguished earlier?

    1. captain veg Silver badge

      There was no Skype lineage in S4B. It was a rebrand for the hopelessly tarnished Lync.

      -A.

      1. Richard 12 Silver badge
        Mushroom

        The rebrand was successful

        It killed them both

  6. Neil Barnes Silver badge
    Childcatcher

    I'm a huge teams fan...

    I love the way the windows seamlessly blend into each other in that edgeless way so you can't see which you're on; joining a meeting with a window too small to display the join button; the Fisher price UI. Notifications that don't go away until you needlessly click on the correct window (see above) are a mere courtesy detail.

    </sarcasm>

    1. My other car WAS an IAV Stryker

      Re: I'm a huge teams fan...

      "the Fisher price UI"

      Flat interfaces are the best thing EVAH!

      And I absolutely love how you can't choose how to put line breaks vs. send the message in chat (shift-enter vs. plain enter vs. ctrl-enter).

      ...NOT!

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I'm a huge teams fan...

        "And I absolutely love how you can't choose how to put line breaks vs. send the message in chat (shift-enter vs. plain enter vs. ctrl-enter)."

        Yes, it sucks big time. Nowadays, since I'm not a one liner at all, I always switch the GUI to format-mode (bold, etc ...) so as ENTER issues a new line as ... it always was since the mid-50s, I think !

        One day, they will even remove the SPACE in teams, then ponctuation, then the consonants ...

        tllfckngsckthstm (it will fucking suck, this time !)

      2. Someone Else Silver badge
        Mushroom

        Re: I'm a huge teams fan...

        And don't get me started with what Teams does with underscores....

        1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

          Re: I'm a huge teams fan...

          But surely you *wanted* to see the text in italics, or bold? Replacing pre and post underscores or asterisks with emphasised text *which is barely visibly different* is merely one of a number of 'helpful' services Teams provides!

          <\sarcasm, again>

  7. tin 2

    Nothing about it in either quality or age makes it worthy of the name (classic).

    If they said we are retiring Microsoft Teams Free (complete bollocks version) I might be less outraged by this.

  8. alain williams Silver badge

    If you want to do an on-line meeting

    Just use https://meet.jit.si/ - it is free and you do not need to (pretend to) read a complicated license.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: If you want to do an on-line meeting

      You don't even need to install specialised software - a web browser supporting WebRTC is enough. That's Chrome/Chromium and other derivatives, Firefox, and Safari works quite well too.

      There's also an iOS app that does WebRTC if I recall correctly, but I found it laggy compered to simply using Safari, and I prefer to keep my app count low if I can (I usually fail spectacularly in that aim and need to cull every so often :) ).

      We run it inhouse, though, as the server is the point where you can see all the streams. It's not exactly hard to set up, they've done a sterling job

  9. Charlie Clark Silver badge
    Mushroom

    All your data belong us…

    … didn't you read the terms and conditions? What do you mean your legal department is a lad called Colin who knows "a bit about theses things"?

    The invoice for this advice will be included in your next subscription payment.

    Let's hope the usual thing happens and people jump ship to another service and knock holes in the "network effect".

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Re: All your data belong us…

      Never pay the ransomware to get your data back, unless it's from a reputable company like Microsoft.

      1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

        Re: All your data belong us…

        Woulndn't it be interesting if these vendors were required to include an estimate of "returning data" in offers and on monthly bills. Might cause the off CFO to miss a putt…

      2. a pressbutton

        Re: All your data belong us…

        Never pay the ransomware to get your data back,

        GDPR - right to data portability ?

        Generally speaking the data should be free

        (https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protection/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/individual-rights/right-to-data-portability/#:~:text=In%20most%20cases%20you%20cannot,is%20manifestly%20unfounded%20or%20excessive.)

  10. mrjohn

    So while Teams is free we can accept it having issues. When it is a paid for service it had better be flawless.

    1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

      Flawless ?

      You do realize who we're talking about here ?

      1. mrjohn

        Re: Flawless ?

        Yes, I've been using computers for the best part of 40 years. I think it is no longer acceptable to expect the end user to find the bugs. That world ended when they opted for the subscription model and the drip drip of constant updates. Same for Adobe, get it right, or get out.

      2. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge

        Re: Flawless ?

        It will be flawless - from M$'s point of view. It was free, now you pay. Flawless!

    2. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

      You must be new here.

      :)

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Bait ...

    ... and Switch.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Bait ...

      The first shot is free. A tactic copied from the more reputable business of selling drugs..

      /s

  12. Spanners Silver badge
    Boffin

    Can it be imported into something else?

    Don't Google, Apple or someone have an export tool?

    1. IGotOut Silver badge

      Re: Can it be imported into something else?

      You could migrate to Google. But they will get bored, close it down and try something else until that gets boring.

      If you import into Apple, it will be incompatible with anything else, except other Apple sucks

      You could got Open Source. It will be rock solid, but the will GUI suck and you best that Dave doesn't get pissed off with all the whining end users and big corporations constantly finding obscure issues, none of whom contribute a dammed thing to help out.

  13. Lee D Silver badge

    Would not be at all bothered about losing Teams, can you take the paid version away as well?

    While you're there, let's discuss OneNote and Sharepoint, which need to either be written for the 21st Century or euthanised.

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge

      They are written for the 21st Century, that bloat simply wouldn't have run in the 20th.

    2. Pirate Dave Silver badge

      " let's discuss OneNote and Sharepoint, which need to either be written for the 21st Century or euthanised."

      Careful, there. One bloated, resource-wasting Electron app (ie - Teams) is bad enough, don't give them any more bad ideas.

      1. 43300 Silver badge

        But Teams is just a skin hiding all sorts of other crap lurking behind it (Sharepoint being one)

  14. Michael Habel
    Devil

    The first hit is always free... Then you'll pay out the arse, and then some!

  15. katrinab Silver badge
    Windows

    I somehow ended up with two different Teams accounts associated with the same email address. One was the Free Teams business, now known as Teams Classic, and the other was Teams Personal, now known as Teams Free. On Windows 11 I have to use different apps to access them. On Mac OS, I can switch between them on the same login.

    This was on an account originally set up with Office Live back in the day.

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