US bans China from participating in the International space station and now China is building their own and soon it will build a better space station because the US and it's allies have mismanaged and lagged behind in tech. Everything the US does to slow China does will lead to China building their own and surpassing the US.
US chip war could hurt the West as Beijing moves to ramp up its own industry
The US battle to halt China's growing semiconductor industry is having an effect, but risks hurting Western industries as well. Meanwhile, China is fighting back with new investments aimed at making its own industries more self-sufficient. Washington's sweeping export restrictions on semiconductor technologies, announced in …
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Monday 28th November 2022 15:36 GMT Anonymous Coward
Double Decker Bus
I was horrified when I recently watched a TV program about how an electric double decker bus was made. All the UK factory did was the "coachbuilding" work, based on a complete chassis, built in china, which was driven in to the factory under it's own power.
I'm certainly not saying that the coachbuilding work isn't worthwhile, but was deeply saddened that this is the way a bus is manufactured in the UK now.
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Monday 28th November 2022 21:01 GMT veti
Re: Surprised?
Nobody is "surprised". This is what export restrictions always do, and everyone knows it.
Sometimes they think it's worth doing anyway. For instance, it may be undesirable to have your own industry strongly coupled to/dependent on a foreign partner who may become hostile. See "European dependence on Russian gas" for an example of how this works.
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Monday 28th November 2022 16:15 GMT elsergiovolador
Blame the victim
If China wasn't embarking on increasingly more authoritarian path and imperialistic rhetoric threatening their neighbours with war, then maybe the West didn't have to move away from China.
Lessons have been (hopefully) learned that peace through trade is a pipe dream when you look at Russia. Bloodthirsty dictators will only use trade to build their war chest rather than make their subjects prosper.
It's also time that we brought these high tech jobs home. There many young folks who would love to work in the chip industry, but we don't have any and moving to China is not an option.
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Monday 28th November 2022 17:55 GMT HereIAmJH
Re: Blame the victim
There is also the painful lesson of COVID that supply chains need to be more distributed, if not local. For the US, you aren't going to encourage chip manufacturing without tariffs, bans, or subsidies. Corporations have decided that China has the cheapest manufacturing and cheap is the most important thing.
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Monday 28th November 2022 19:53 GMT martinusher
Disrupting the Buld/Buy tradeoff
These shortsighted policies might appear to slow down China in the short term but what they're really doing is altering the build/buy tradeoff. Forcing the Chinese to do work that was not cost effective for them might slow them down in the near term but it won't stop them, we'll just end up with even more formidable competition as their versions of technology, unencumbered by years of development compromises, becomes the better mousetrap.
Obviously we can continue telling ourselves that they just can't do what we can do. All the time buying products from Taiwan, Korea and Japan.
We're also causing our 'allies' significant economic hardship by insisting on them enforcing our sanctions policies even if it hurts them. (Put simply, we make hay while you freeze. Thanks!)