Israel sets robotic target-tracking turrets in the West Bank Israeli fortifications in the West Bank are becoming a bit more faceless, as the military has reportedly deployed robotic turrets capable of firing stun grenades, less-than-lethal bullets, and tear gas at Palestinians protesting their presence. The remote-controlled auto guns were recently spotted at the Al-Aroub refugee camp …
The Palestinian people should go back to Palestine where they came from and leave the Zionist State Terrorists in peace.
Then Palestine will be free, and all who live there will have their equal national, political and civil rights in the area between the river Jordon and the Mediterranean Sea A single democratic binational state, free from apartheid and occupation.
Until then, people are going to resist their murder and dispossession since surrender hasn't worked, collaboration hasn't worked, capitulation hasn't worked.
The newly elected government of Zionist State includes "proud homophobe" Bezalel Smotrich https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2022-02-14/ty-article/.premium/bezalel-smotrich-is-a-darkness-unto-the-jews/0000017f-e973-d62c-a1ff-fd7ba6f60000 and
convicted terrorist supporter Itamar Ben-Gvir.
Ben-Gvir admired Baruch Goldstein - the mass murderer who shot dozens of Muslim worshipers to death at the Cave of the Patriarchs in 1995 – so much so that Goldstein's photo adorned Ben-Gvir's living room wall, until it became politicly inconvenient.According to testimony of Yigal Amir, who assassinated Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin in 1995, Ben-Gvir himself had plotted to kill the Israeli leader after the signing of the Oslo Accords. He was always the first to appear at scenes of various terror attacks, inciting violence and riots.
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/hkawf6jbs
The Apartheid State has been condemned multiple times, and now King Bibi is the left wing face of Zionist State Terror.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-new-government-pushes-country-towards-precipice
"The Palestinian people should go back to Palestine where they came from"
The Palestinian people ARE in Palestine, it's the Israeli settlers who are occupying their land and kicking them - usually forcefully by a team of bulldozers levelling their villages.
"all who live there will have their equal national, political and civil rights in the area between the river Jordon and the Mediterranean Sea A single democratic binational state, free from apartheid and occupation."
That is unfortunately a pipe dream. A 2-state solution might have been possible in a narrow time window around 2000. Israeli policy is now de-facto occupation of the entire west bank with settlements, leaving Palestinians as non-citizens in whatever slivers of ghettoized land remains in the spaces between settlements and all the roads connecting them. No difference between Israel now and South Africa 50 years ago, and the way to solve it is the same - make Israel a pariah embargoed state until they give Palestinians full citizenship rights and their land back.
"No difference between Israel now and South Africa 50 years ago, and the way to solve it is the same - make Israel a pariah embargoed state until they give Palestinians full citizenship rights and their land back."
Which is a problem, as every time a UN motion has been presented it's always been vetoed by one country: America.
It was an attempt at humour. Poorly judged but this subject is so depressing. Of course Palestinians are in Palestine.
A 2 state solution is a fiction, 94% of Palestine is in private hands, that doesn't change because thieves occupy it.
International law applies to all, in which case the owners of the land must have their property restored, leaving no land for the two states.
The only thing that is possible is equal rights under the law, which is de-facto the dismantling of Apartheid Israel.
It's not a pipe dream it's inevitable, there is no other outcome, the Zionist State is now ever more nakedly racist and fascist, eventually it's prime imperial sponsor will find it inconvenient to maintain the alliance.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20221116-us-asks-netanyahu-not-to-give-defence-job-to-extremist-smotrich/
The American administration of President Joe Biden has asked Israeli Prime Minister-designate Benjamin Netanyahu not to appoint Religious Zionism leader Bezalel Smotrich as defence minister, Israeli media reported.Netanyahu, the Times of Israel reported, told Smotrich that he would not be given the job in the next government, citing American concerns over the possible disruption to cooperation with Biden's administration. Instead, the post would be held by someone in Netanyahu's Likud Party
It might be already happening.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20221119-smotrich-insists-on-defence-job-rejects-netanyahu-compromises/
Coalition talks for the next Israeli government are making little progress, with the far-right Otzma Yehudit party led by extremist MK Itamar Ben-Gvir saying yesterday that it was breaking off negotiations due to huge differences, not least over ministerial posts. According to local media, the party accused Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud of pulling away from an agreement to appoint a member of the far-right party as the head of the Ministry for the Development of the Negev and the Galilee.
"Contrary to an earlier agreement, Likud retracted and now refuses to give the additional ministry — the Negev, the Galilee and the social periphery — to Otzma Yehudit," the Times of Israel reported an anonymous party official as saying. "Strengthening the Negev, the Galilee, and the periphery is our election promise, and we were elected to fulfil election promises."
Netanyahu is also facing a standoff with Religious Zionism, led by extremist MK Bezalel Smotrich, who has been insisting on getting the Defence or Finance Ministry. The Likud leader refuses to make Smotrich Minister of Defence, explained the newspaper, due to his lack of military experience, potentially inflammatory plans, expected international outrage and other concerns.
Even after a Likud member compared him to Hamas leader Yahya Al-Sinwar in Gaza, Smotrich said that he remains committed to his partnership with the likely ruling party. "We are a full partner of the national camp and of Likud," he insisted. "We will stand by our demands in order to ensure the establishment of a good, stable government as soon as possible that will… advance genuine right-wing policies."
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20221121-israel-coalition-talks-face-serious-issues/
well, I read the first line - not yours, but the post you're commenting on, and I thought: nice, this is THE register spirit! But with each next line (I think I covered a few more) I got back to the undeniable fact that irony, including self-applied, is way beyond the poster and he's just another one ranting about random subject which I'm about to start on too, cause I wanna be a lumberjack...
Let me quote you the words of Polish Atheist Zionist Terrorist Ben-Gurion.
"We have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? Who would accept that?" - David Ben-Gurion, The Jewish Paradox : A personal memoir (1978) by Nahum Goldmann (translated by Steve Cox), p. 99.
Or more explicitly
Ben-Gurion also clearly stated that it was the Zionists who were the aggressors, at least from the political point of view. He stated in the contexts of the First Palestinian Intifada in 1938, :
"When we say that the Arabs are the aggressors and we defend ourselves ---- that is only half the truth. As regards our security and life we defend ourselves. . . . But the fighting is only one aspect of the conflict, which is in its essence a political one. And politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves." (Righteous Victims, p. 652)
Minimise Comment
The Zionists -- militant Zionists -- were not afraid to murder British people when it suited their purposes. Just to remind Reg readers after WW1 the UK got a Mandate from the League of Nations to administer Palestine. The British (like the Ottomans before them) tried to maintain a balance between the populations. This wasn't good enough for militant Zionists.
However, as we all found out last week's terrorists are this week's statespeople.
That's not true, the British where naked terroristic towards the Palestinian population, the first high commissioner of Palestine was a Zionist Hubert Samuel.
The Peel Commission testimony shows how the Palestinian people rights as utter discarded by a racist clown https://fathomjournal.org/mandate100-a-dangerous-people-to-quarrel-with-lloyd-georges-secret-testimony-to-the-peel-commission-revealed/
At the time this was written >95% of Palestine's population was Palestinians of Christian or Muslim background. The clear intention is to dispossess these people with utter contempt for their rights of self determination.
‘There can be no doubt that the Arab population of Palestine has profited enormously by the Zionist enterprise.’[12]
Chairman Peel asked if Balfour’s proclamation meant the Jews could ‘come in pretty nearly as they like,’ regardless of any negative effects on the Arabs.
‘Yes,’ said Lloyd George. ‘There is no doubt about that, from the words used by Lord Balfour, that it was contemplated by him that, in the course of political evolution, the Jews would have a majority.’ He said President Wilson, who had given his assent to the Declaration and made similar comments about a future ‘Jewish Commonwealth,’ felt likewise.[13]
https://fathomjournal.org/mandate100-a-dangerous-people-to-quarrel-with-lloyd-georges-secret-testimony-to-the-peel-commission-revealed/
Or feast your eyes on Hansard and check the breathtaking arrogance.
As the "learned gentlemen" suggest the Palestinians population growth is down to the Zionists murdering them in an improving manner.
." I think Colonial areas, if they are suitable, may well be appropriate for consideration for Jewish colonisation. And let the House be under no misapprehension. The Jews have proved to be first-class colonisers, to have the real, good, old, Empire-building kind of qualities, to be really first-class Colonial pioneers, and I do not object in any way—on the contrary, I welcome it—that there should be consideration of appropriate Colonial territories. But all this is bound to take time. All these territories have their problems. What I cannot let go of is this. Do that if you will by all means; I urge you to do it; but is it not an onus upon us now to lift the restrictions upon Jewish immigration so far as they now exist and permit a much greater number of Jews to go to Palestine, particularly the 10,000 children for whom Jews in Palestine are willing to accept entire responsibility? In 1922 Transjordan, representing nearly four-fifths of the area, was cut off and immigration was restricted. Since 1932 there has been restriction, but up to 1936, at any rate, it was assumed that the British Government were willing to continue responsibility for the Mandate.
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/1938-11-24/debates/4c6147e8-c920-4b90-bfd4-d59cdda468af/Palestine
His missions was set out in 1915 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Future_of_Palestine
But with support from Churchill, Samuel resumed his mission.In his 5 years of tenure, from 1920 to 1925, he promulgated about 100 laws, essentially founding Israel, waiting to be announced 28 years later. Samuel created separate Jewish institutions for education, banking, power generation, public works, and particularly, a Jewish legislative council, and an embryonic Jewish army – the Haganah.
Palestinians the majority – were denied the right to do any of these things.
https://mondoweiss.net/2022/11/a-palestinian-address-to-balfour-in-honor-of-truth-memory-and-justice/
The Palestinians have been deliberately murdering women and children for decades, so I have no problem with Israel using what are, inherently, defensive weapons to stop this.
Neither the Palestinians or Israeli's have shown they deserve stewardship of the "Holy" land. Both groups kill, maim and terrorize in the name of God. As Northern Ireland discovered, both parties will need decades of conflict and be up to their ankles in blood before they sit down like adults to resolve this once and for all. Thankfully, we know this can be done.
We are one species. Until we eliminate ignorance and despots we are doomed to cycle through violence.
The colonial approach of sitting in judgement on the worth of millions of people, and pronouncing on if humans "deserve" inalienable human rights is breathtakingly arrogant, and epitomizes the problem.
Since the beginning of Zionist Jewish colonization of their country in the 1880s, Palestinians have faced demands that they carry a double burden: to fight off the Jewish racist colonists while having to defend their colonizers against anti-Jewish European Christian racism.No other colonized people has been forced to carry such a double burden.
https://electronicintifada.net/content/burden-western-liberals-impose-only-palestinians/36651
There are simply not two sides, simply perpetrator and victim. Any equivalence between a Tank and a stone, is laughable, quite simple the naked contempt for international law on one side, and the complete right under international law and basic decency of self defence. https://electronicintifada.net/content/why-doesnt-amnesty-recognize-palestinians-right-resist/36576
A group of terrorists murdered a bunch of people and stole 94% of Palestine from it's private owners. International law is quite clearly supporting the Palestinian people, against the Zionist State Terrorist group. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/palestine-un-resolution-request-icj-opinion-israel-occupation
Both sides, is a contemptible supporting of the oppressor and cowardly denunciation of the human right to resist ones own violent dispossession.
The people who drop two ton bombs on civilian population claim a military justification, fine let them prove it before the ICC, or let them account for the mass murder of the civilian population. The ongoing war crimes of moving civilians into an occupied area. The ongoing war crime of preventing the return of the inhabitants of Palestine dispossessed and expelled by the Zionist State Terrorists.
There is Palestine bloodied and occupied but alive, and the Zionist State Terrorist group, now ever more nakedly fascist and racist, https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-election-how-partisan-crisis-became-state-crisis
Both Sides,
In 1851, correspondence between Lord Stanley, whose father became British Prime Minister the following year, and Benjamin Disraeli, who became Chancellor of the Exchequer alongside him, records Disraeli's proto-Zionist views: "He then unfolded a plan of restoring the nation to Palestine—said the country was admirably suited for them—the financiers all over Europe might help—the Porte is weak—the Turks/holders of property could be bought out—this, he said, was the object of his life..." Coningsby was merely a feelermy views were not fully developed at that time—since then all I have written has been for one purpose. The man who should restore the Hebrew race to their country would be the Messiah—the real saviour of prophecy!" He did not add formally that he aspired to play this part, but it was evidently implied. He thought very highly of the capabilities of the country, and hinted that his chief object in acquiring power here would be to promote the return".[22][23] 26 years later, Disraeli wrote in his article entitled "The Jewish Question is the Oriental Quest" (1877) that within fifty years, a nation of one million Jews would reside in Palestine under the guidance of the British.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Zionism
So a hundred years prior to the Zionist State Terrorist group campaign of murder - it looks like an genocide is contemplated to dispossess the people living there in Britain's imperial aim.
According to the author Nadim Rouhana, “the essence of the encounter therefore took place between a group of people living in their homeland and a group of people who arrived from other parts of the world guided by an ideology that claimed the same homeland as exclusively theirs.”[8] Zionism in Rouhana's eye revolved around a system of exclusion in which Zionist arrived and stole the lands they resided on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%E2%80%93Crane_Commission
My sister used to work in the area during the 1980s. She told me that the the Israelis that she feared the most "were from New York" ("the ones with machine guns").
Her husband (British) was of Indian origin and so had a somewhat darker skin. He has been mistaken for a "Pal", especially at the border crossings, and treated accordingly. (He carried a diplomatic passport.....but he would play along just to see how the untermensch were treated by their overseers.) Its no secret that UN 'on the ground' personnel have no love for Israelis.
The American Zionists are living their best life shooting brown people without consequences, it's a chance to act out the "Wild West" without a chance of the "natives" fighting back.
The American Empire sees the Zionist State terrorist group as a useful agent within the region. Sadly that means that international law has little value while the Americans provided the bulk of the funding to the UN and its associated bodies.
we might be one species, but our God is real God and your god is godless piece of shit and so are you, so die (...), etc. Interestingly, while Russians tried to remove God from the picture, this didn't reduce, in any noticeable way, the amount of suffering and deaths, so perhaps there's more than one opium for the masses. I dunno... amazon v. aliexpress?
My God is Godless and so am I.
But you started the sentence by assigning me a God and by the end I'm Godless.
Are you normally able to write clearly?
Perhaps you could start slowly, try to see the "Zionist State Terrorist Group" campaign of Murder, Armed Robbery, and Genocide has nothing to do with religious and everything to do with imperialism.
The survivors and their descendants of the Genocide of the Palestinian people and ethnic cleansing of Palestine form the worlds largest refugee population dating from the longest continuous occupation that of the Zionist State terrorists occupying Palestine.
The Zionist State Terrorist group has murdered countless people in flagrant violation of international law.
Conversely the Heroic Palestinian resistance groups are using
United Nations General Assembly passed resolution A/RES/37/43 concerning the ‘[i]mportance of the universal realization of the right of peoples to self-determination’. It endorsed, without qualification, ‘the inalienable right’ of the Palestinian people to ‘self-determination, national independence, territorial integrity, national unity and sovereignty without outside interference’, and reaffirmed the legitimacy of their struggle for those rights ‘by all available means, including armed struggle’.
The Zionist State Terrorist group https://mondoweiss.net/2022/08/israels-friends-struggle-to-justify-unprovoked-attack-that-killed-16-children/ murders simply because the demographics are against the colonisation of Palestine,
Ethnic Cleansing is too nice a word for the savagery of the Zionist State Terrorist Group.
Deir Yassin
The 1948 Deir Yassin massacre was a blueprint for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Despite Israel attempts to deny its history of crimes, we must commemorate it in order to remind the world of the ongoing plight of Palestinians, writes Emad Moussa.
...
Of nearly 70 massacres during the 1948 Nakba, Deir Yassin would become one of those atrocities where almost all the acts of war criminality were unleashed: killing, destruction, pillaging, rape, and displacement.
According to Benny Morris, Israeli historian and initially a leading figure in Israel’s new history revisionist movement, “[The militias] ransacked unscrupulously, stole money and jewels from the survivors, and burned the bodies. Even dismemberment and rape occurred
https://www.newarab.com/opinion/deir-yassin-massacre-and-israels-normalised-denial
Ben Gurion
I am for compulsory transfer; I do not see anything immoral in it.’
David Ben-Gurion to the Jewish Agency Executive, June 1938
Tantura
Now, film director Alon Schwarz was finally able to catch up to the Jewish protagonists in this Greek tragedy. Some of them confessed on camera that Katz told the truth and recorded faithfully their version of events in 1948. With the help of cutting-edge technology, Schwarz was able to uncover the mass graves, and prodded the judge who was sitting in the original trial to admit she had never listened to the tapes. After listening to one in the film, she acknowledged the verdict could have been very different.
In all this, we should not forget what is important. The massacre was part of an overall crime against humanity that Israel committed in 1948 and continues to perpetrate to this very day - a crime that is still widely denied. Films or dissertations by conscientious Israeli Jews are not enough to rectify this crime.
The only relevant closure for this ongoing criminality is the decolonisation of all of historical Palestine, and the full implementation of the right of return. In a free and democratic Palestine, a memorial in Tantura could be a meaningful reminder of the past. But when it only appears on the pages of liberal Zionist papers such as Haaretz, it adds insult to injury, without a more concrete rectification of past evils.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-palestine-no-longer-bury-tantura-massacre
Plan Dalet.
plan for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.
That same evening, military orders were dispatched to the units on the ground to prepare for the systematic expulsion of the Palestinians from vast areas of the country.
3 The orders came with a detailed description of the methods to be employed to forcibly evict the people: large-scale intimidation; laying siege to and bombarding villages and population centres; setting fire to homes, properties and goods; expulsion; demolition; and, finally, planting mines among the rubble to prevent any of the expelled inhabitants from returning.
Each unit was issued with its own list of villages and neighbourhoods as the targets of this master plan.
Codenamed Plan D (Dalet in Hebrew), this was the fourth and final version of less substantial plans that outlined the fate the Zionists had in store for Palestine and consequently for its native population.
The previous three schemes had articulated only obscurely how the Zionist leadership contemplated dealing with the presence of so many Palestinians living in the land the Jewish national movement coveted as its own.
This fourth and last blueprint spelled it out clearly and unambiguously: the Palestinians had to go.
https://yplus.ps/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Pappe-Ilan-The-Ethnic-Cleansing-of-Palestine.pdf
It might be a good idea for you to understand what genocide and ethic cleansing are before you start throwing unhinged accusations around. The non-Jewish population of Israel has grown continuously since the creation of Israel in 1948 and the Palestinian population also continues to grow throughout the region.
If Israel was trying to commit genocide or ethnic cleansing, they are absolutely rubbish at it, and these attempts would be laughably the biggest failure in history.
However, if you look at all the other states in the region, there is one section of their populations who have been ethnically cleansed. I'm sure you know that already and fully support it, and you have called for genocide against that ethic group on many occasions in previous comments.
Re: Refugees are the decendants of Zionist State Terror
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From a legal perspective, genocide, like the crime against humanity of
persecution, is an international crime distinguished by the specific intent to discriminate
against a group on recognized grounds through a series of acts or omissions often
reflected in and achieved through State policies. While different in degree, both genocide
and persecution “[reduce] a person to their identification with or membership in a group,”
but also “[attack] the group itself.”3 Persecution criminalizes the denial of fundamental
rights for members of the group, and genocide criminalizes the most extreme stage of
discrimination: efforts to actually destroy the group.
According to the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of
Genocide,4 genocide includes various acts “committed with intent to destroy, in whole or
in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group” as such, including:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about
its physical destruction in whole or in part; and
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.5
This definition is reflected in Article 6 of the Statute of the International Criminal
Court (ICC), which has jurisdiction over crimes occurring on the territory of the State of
Palestine since June 13, 2014.
Genocide
The Genocide of the Palestinian People: An International Law and Human Rights Perspective While there has been recent criticism of those taking the position that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians, there is a long history of human rights scholarship and legal analysis that supports the assertion.
Prominent scholars of the international law crime of genocide and human rights authorities take the position that Israel’s policies toward the Palestinian people could constitute a form of genocide.
Those policies range from the 1948 mass killing and displacement of Palestinians to a half- century of military occupation and, correspondingly, the discriminatory legal regime governing Palestinians, repeated military assaults on Gaza, and official Israeli statements expressly favoring the elimination of Palestinians.
Genocide is a term that has both sociological and legal meaning.
The term genocide was coined in 1944 by a Jewish Polish legal scholar, Raphael Lemkin.
For Lemkin, “the term does not necessarily signify mass killings.
” He explained: More often [genocide] refers to a coordinated plan aimed at destruction of the essential foundations of the life of national groups so that these groups wither and die like plants that have suffered a blight.
The end may be accomplished by the forced disintegration of political and social institutions, of the culture of the people, of their language, their national feelings and their religion.
It may be accomplished by wiping out all basis of personal security, liberty, health and dignity.
When these means fail the machine gun can always be utilized as a last resort.
Genocide is directed against a national group as an entity and the attack on individuals is only secondary to the annihilation of the national group to which they belong.
https://ccrjustice.org/sites/default/files/attach/2016/10/Background%20on%20the%20term%20genocide%20in%20Israel%20Palestine%20Context.pdf
You tedious attempts to claim the Zionist State Terrorist group doesn't meet the threshold for Genocide and Ethnic cleansing is rebutted with links to the source material.
I understand as a Zionist, you simply don't see the Palestinian people as Human. That is your issue, not theirs. The Inalienable human rights of Palestine, and self determination of the Palestinian people, are inviolate.
It's deeply racist to suggest Jews must have a loyalty to the Zionist Entity.
Firstly Judaism is a faith, Zionism is Anti Palestinian Racism.
Religious Jews denounced Zionism from its inception. The only Jew in the Balfour Cabinet denounced Balfour's declaration https://balfourproject.org/edwin-montagu-and-zionism-1917/
The largest American Zionist lobbying group is not a Jewish group but a Christian Zionist group CUFI.
Orde Wingate … ‘I spoke to him this morning at Arlington [military cemetery]’.”The late British officer infamously led the Special Night Squad, a militia used to crush Palestinian rebels who fought against the British occupation in the 1930s. According to one history of the British occupation of Palestine, Wingate had “a passionate pro-Zionism born of the religious tenets he had absorbed as a member of the Plymouth Brethren” – a conservative Evangelical denomination.
The squad was mostly populated by Zionists with the British “knowing that they were simultaneously members of Haganah,” the militia which would in 1948 play the leading role in ethnically cleansing 750,000 Palestinians. At the same time, “Arabs caught with arms were routinely prosecuted, and some hanged” while Haganah training and arming “had been winked at” (A. J. Sherman, Mandate Days, John Hopkins University Press: 1997, pp. 121, 151).
Kemp reportedly told his audience Wingate was “the greatest Christian Zionist in Britain.”
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/hardcore-christian-zionism-israels-favorite-british-colonel
In 2018 several Palestinian members of the Knesset tried to introduce legislation that would grant Palestinians equal citizenship rather than what the Israeli human rights group B’Tselem calls “Jewish supremacy.” According to America’s most prominent Jewish organizations and the U.S. government, this kind of call for equal citizenship constituted bigotry.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/26/opinion/antisemitism-israel-uae-saudi.html
The current situation in Israel is apartheid is defined by the 2002 Rome Statute of the
International Criminal Court, HRW has a detailed report https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution
B'tSelem say it is apartheid https://www.btselem.org/topic/apartheid
As signatures to "International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment
of the Crime of Apartheid"[2] It is an obligation on all states to prosecute
Apartheid.
8th February 2022 "The International Human Rights Clinic at Harvard Law
School and Addameer Prisoner Support and
Human Rights Association" published, and I quote "Specifically, this
submission finds that
Israel’s actions in the occupied West Bank are in breach of the prohibition of
apartheid and
amount to the crime of apartheid under international law" [5]
19th January 2022 "Entrenching and Maintaining an Apartheid Regime over the
Palestinian People as a Whole"
Zionism or Anti Palestinian Racism, to give it its proper name, was denounced By Jews prior to 1948 - Denounced by Jews after 1948 including Albert Einstein
https://archive.org/details/AlbertEinsteinLetterToTheNewYorkTimes.December41948/mode/1up
Condemned as racism by HaJo Meyer - A man who lost every member of his family to the death camps and survived Auschwitz -
Haidar said that there is no time for theoretical analysis of Zionism, by that he means political Zionism. I hope I can answer his questions, in order to honour Haidar. It is an ideology which is deeply bad. It is ideology with an eschatological view comparable to Stalinism, comparable with Nazism: hoping for a bliss state without any enemy. So it’s eschatological: it’s based on the view that the enemy must be completely wiped out. This is the intrinsic bad nature of Zionism. That's one thing I wanted to say.
The second point is how is Israel allowed. You are here in greater crowds than I find mostly in continental Europe. It is due to the fact that you as British or Scots men and women, cannot be so easily blackmailed with the Holocaust, which is the greatest weapon. Please do not let yourself be blackmailed ever. Formerly an anti-Semite was someone who didn’t like Jews because of their nature or soul. Nowadays an anti-Semite is someone that some Zionistic Jews don’t like. I am called an anti-Semite according to these Zionists
The theme of my talk is the explicit wish of the International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network, IJAN, because the 27th of January is near and that is the date that Auschwitz was liberated. I happened to be one who survived 10 months of Auschwitz, and so I feel relatively justified to talk about it.
https://www.sacc.org.uk/articles/2020/never-again-anyone-hajo-meyer
But most important than all is the infuriating exemption of Palestine from the international discussion of the mass killing in general and that of children in particular. Take for example the international definition of mass killing. It is defined as:
“The deliberate actions of armed groups, including but not limited to state security forces…that result in the death of at least 1000 non-combatant civilians targeted as part of a specific group over a period of one year or less.”
In the First and Second Intifada, in 2009 and in 2014, the number of Palestinians killed by Israel exceeded by far one thousand. Nowhere in the UN or another human organization recording mass killings worldwide, do the Palestinians appear as a case study.
The game is not of numbers of course, but much more about the ideology that facilitates such mass killing; a kind of inhumanity only possible if the humans you target are dehumanized. An ideology that leads in many cases to genocidal policies. The definition of genocide according to article 2 of the UN charter on Genocide includes mass killing, bodily and mental harm, and physical desertion as indicators of such policies.
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/israels-relentless-war-against-the-children-of-palestine/
Not sure where this has been plucked from, but if the definition is true, then the key section will be "non-combatant civilians targeted as part of a specific group" - Israel does not deliberately target non-combatants. In fact, it goes to great lengths to give non-combatants as much notice as it can before hitting combatant targets, or facilities being used by combatants, which quite often allows the combatants a chance to escape as well.
The use of civilian infrastructure by combatants also removes the protection that the civilian infrastructure would have under the normal rules of armed conflict. Once a school (regardless of if the UN are running it or not), or a mosque, or a hospital is used for storing weapons, being a base of combatant activity or a launchpad of weaponry, it ceases to be civilian infrastructure and becomes a legitimate target for attack. So claiming that a school has been attacked demonstrates that Israel deliberately attacks children is actually a wilful misrepresentation of Palestinian paramilitary tactics to use civilian human shields. This is deliberate abuse of the human rights of the civilian population by the Palestinian paramilitaries, and certainly not an attack by Israel on Palestinian civilians.
Genocide - the targetting of Palestinians as Palestinians, an attempt to destroy them as a people, as a nation, targeting children, the elderly.[1]
The targeting of Gaza and the West Bank, is the deliberate targeting of children by the Zionist State Terrorist Group.[2]
During the inevitable mass trials at the International Criminal Court, I look forward to hearing the defence presented.
Leaving aside the flagrant illegality of the occupation which itself deprives the Zionist Terrorists a defence in Law, there is no military justification for the use of two ton bombs in a civilian population, let alone, in one of the most densely populated areas on Earth. [3]
There is a clear pattern of behaviour which demonstrates the goal of Zionist Terrorist is to cause maximum loss of Palestinian civilian life, this is not related to any Military objective but simply to demonstrate commitment to an electoral base of racists and messianic fanatics. [4]
The Zionist State Terrorist Group is in flagrant violation of international law, as every piece of supporting evidence suggests. [5]
Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben Gvir show the desire to stop hiding and acknowledge the evident pride in targeting the defenceless majority population between the river and the sea, who have few or no rights.
[1] https://ccrjustice.org/sites/default/files/attach/2016/10/Background%20on%20the%20term%20genocide%20in%20Israel%20Palestine%20Context.pdf
[2] https://pcbs.gov.ps/post.aspx?lang=en&ItemID=4213
[3] https://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/default/files/publications/research/2018-12-10-proportionality-conduct-hostilities-incidental-harm-gillard-final.pdf
[4] https://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/opinion/palestinian-lives-sacrificed-at-altar-of-israeli-elections-20b391ad-3c0b-44cb-9c4c-061f451ea0fd
[5] https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apartheid-against-palestinians-a-cruel-system-of-domination-and-a-crime-against-humanity/
Reference 2 shows that Reference 1 is utter bs.
Reference 3 shows that Israel isn't committing the war crimes you allege.
Reference 4 and 5 are opinion pieces and are written by people like yourself who consider Israel's mere existence, and the equal rights that affords to Jews, as an outrage. As such, they are merely antisemitic ravings and will only be seen as "truthful" by antisemitic idiots.
It's tragic that you are unable to cite a single shred of evidence to support over a hundred years of Zionist Hasbra.
You simply spew forth lies in response to evidenced rebuttal. Nothing is more anti semetic than Zionism, opposed by Jews longer than anyone else.
[1] The Actions of the Zionist State Terrorist group are Genocide, both according to international law, and the Jewish coiner of the phrase. That you have nothing, not a single sentence to substantiate your lies is accepted as complete capitulation of the most humiliating kind.
[2] - showing "Children in Palestine represent 43.9% of the total population (41.7% in the West Bank, and 47.3% in Gaza Strip). " Proving every attack on Gaza and the West bank, is a war crime, given the age of the population, and the illegal occupation.
[3] Bombing civilians to look tough to racists is against international law, even when a Zionist State Terrorist is targetting a brown Palestinian family.
Bunker buster ammunition in densely populated civilian populations is the very definition of indiscriminate.
Palestine exists and the Zionist State Terrorist Group exist. Occupying Palestine doesn't change the name of the indigenous people giving the land it's name,
If the biblical Israelites ever existed their descendants are Palestinians, not the Poles. Refusing to collude in your delusion that being Polish and an Atheist entitles you to occupy Palestine, doesn't render one "raving", its means one is opposed to Anti Palestinian racism.
Equal rights have never been afforded to anybody by Zionist State Terrorists, Jew or non Jew, all are discriminated against.
Inter faith marriage is forbidden in Zionist State, as is Gay Marriage.
Black Jews were forcibly robbed of their reproductive fertility. https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injected-african-immigrant-women-with-birth-control/
Yemeni Jews had their children stolen, and organs stolen and sent to America
Disturbing revelations followed in a special Knesset committee about medical experiments that had been conducted on the Yemenite children. Prior testimony given under oath during the previous inquiries revealed that many children had died as a consequence of medical negligence. Further testimony revealed that four undernourished babies died after being administered an experimental protein injection. Violating Jewish tradition, post-mortem examinations were carried out on children who were then buried in mass graves. Children's hearts were removed in some cases and given to US doctors researching the near absence of heart disease found in Yemen.[26]
for your enlightened and unbiased views of life on the West Bank.
FFS they are killing each other. How they do it doesn't matter, blame games and "opinions" do nothing to resolve or clarify the situation. What they need to do is sort themselves out in a non-violent way which they have always seemed really keen not to do.
January, 1970 - Bertrand Russell
The tragedy of the people of Palestine is that their country was
given by a foreign Power to another people for the creation of a new
State. The result was that many hundreds of thousands of innocent
people were made permanently homeless. With every new conflict their
number have increased. How much longer is the world willing to endure
this spectacle of wanton cruelty? It is abundantly clear that the
refugees have every right to the homeland from which they were driven,
and the denial of this right is at the heart of the continuing
conflict. No people anywhere in the world would accept being expelled
en masse from their own country; how can anyone require the people of
Palestine to accept a punishment which nobody else would tolerate? A
permanent just settlement of the refugees in their homeland is an
essential ingredient of any genuine settlement in the Middle East.
The Zionist State Terrorists are occupying Palestine and killing its inhabitants, the ones they didn't manage to kill or drive off their land live in an open air prison subjected to regular attack by a Terrorist group with multi-ton bombs, tanks, and air force, billions in sophisticated weaponry.
There is no both sides, or "each other", there is the occupier in contempt of international law and all basic justice, and the unarmed occupied victims who resist with stones, with their bare bodies, with hunger strikes, with appeals to international law, and when that all failed with whatever weapons they could acquire.
There is a terrorist attacking a civilian population, who's actions are indisputably terrorism., they are Zionist State not Palestinians legitimately engaging in Armed Resistance to Zionist Terror.
The Palestinians are the blameless victims of European Racism. It's nakedly obvious that a colonial reality has been imposed on Palestine, and the fact the colonizers are of European origin is enough to both sides the most one sided conflict in history.
Blame is highly important. It's impossible to have a just post-conflict settlement without acknowledging and compensating for historical injustices.
As the article states, the Palestinians have tried both peaceful and militant means of resisting the systematic annexation of their homeland. Just saying "they should be non-violent" is ignoring their right to violent resistance which is protected under international law and asking way more of them than we would abide by ourselves.
Imagine a group of people setting up a country in the borders of a Western country and then systematically stealing land and ghettoizing the surrounding country, while supported militarily by a superpower. We wouldn't expect the occupants of that country to live with it and nor should we expect the Palestinians to do so.
It's not difficult at all. The people who live in Palestine were Occupied by people from Poland.
The occupiers from Eastern Europe have no claim on Western Asia, by dint of idealogical affiliation.
No there is no equivalence between the occupier and the oppressed, the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people don't exist according to a balance with the Zionist State Terrorist group Hasbara.
Zionism or Anti-Palestinian Racism to give it its proper name, is a genocidal ideology based on the writings of a European Terrorist group of service to the Imperial powers.
It's based on denying rights, including the rights to life to a group based on the ethnicity and national origin, and it's flagrantly racist in its conception and genocidal implementation.
TO THE EDITORS OF NEW YORK TIMES:
Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.
The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.
Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement.
The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.
Attack on Arab Village
A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants (240 men, women, and children) and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.
The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party.
Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model.
During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.
The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots.
Discrepancies Seen
The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal.
In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin's efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.
The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.
ISIDORE ABRAMOWITZ,
HANNAH ARENDT,
ABRAHAM BRICK,
RABBI JESSURUN CARDOZO,
ALBERT EINSTEIN,
HERMAN EISEN, M.D.,
HAYIM FINEMAN, M. GALLEN, M.D.,
H.H. HARRIS,
ZELIG S. HARRIS,
SIDNEY HOOK,
FRED KARUSH,
BRURIA KAUFMAN,
IRMA L. LINDHEIM,
NACHMAN MAISEL,
SEYMOUR MELMAN,
MYER D. MENDELSON, M.D.,
HARRY M. OSLINSKY,
SAMUEL PITLICK,
FRITZ ROHRLICH,
LOUIS P. ROCKER,
RUTH SAGIS,
ITZHAK SANKOWSKY,
I.J. SHOENBERG,
SAMUEL SHUMAN,
M. SINGER,
IRMA WOLFE,
STEFAN WOLFE.
New York, Dec. 2, 1948
```
https://archive.org/details/AlbertEinsteinLetterToTheNewYorkTimes.December41948/mode/1up
1) "The remote-controlled auto guns"
2) "residents expressed fear that the weapons could be hacked, but it isn't immediately clear if the weapons have connectivity that would make that possible"
Have we learned nothing? - if 1) is true then 2) is automatically true regardless of the type of connectivity or how unhackable the manufacturers say/think it is...
Zionist State arms industry market these weapons as having been "field tested".
The use of them in a civilian population means that any deaths will only be Palestinians, so they can work out the kinks before these are deployed to American and European cities.
It's purely that the life of Palestinians is worth less than nothing to the self appointed civilized world, otherwise the use of the item would trigger wider condemnation than the application of tomato soup to glass.
I can only surmise that the Palestinian people will build their own version.
I feel that it will not be long before there are automated killing machines on both sides.
If Isreal is so sure it is right then maybe they should just get on with the extermination of Palestinian people.
You would think the Israelis would recognise a despotic regime.
I don't think you understand how apartheid works. What you have just said is like saying the blacks could have fought back in Africa. There is a reason the main weapon of palestinians is rocks. Sure they get other types but they are under heavy sanctions and subject to having homes bulldozed and land stolen. "You would think the Israelis would recognise they are a despotic regime." ftfy.
The Zionist State Terrorist group has used Biological Warfare as means of wide spread ethnic cleansing since at least 1948
https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-details-israel-zionist-biological-warfare-exposed/282406/
Following the first Arab-Israeli war, of 1948, rumours surfaced that the typhoid epidemic that struck the Arab town of Acre days before its fall on 18 May, had been caused by bacteria poured into the town’s water works by agents of the Haganah, the main Jewish militia. Later that month, the Egyptian government announced that it had caught two ‘Zionist’ operatives as they were trying to infect wells near Egyptian-occupied Gaza. The two episodes have been mentioned in several books1 and discussed by Sara Leibowitz-Dar, Avner Cohen and Salman Abu Sitta in articles published some twenty years ago, based mainly on interviews.2 But real-time Israeli documentation of the country’s clandestine biological warfare in 1948 remained closed to researchers and over the years government agencies have tried to suppress information on the subject. For example, crucial words in Ben-Gurion’s diary for 1948, published in 1982 by the Defense Ministry Press, were deleted.3
The code name of the biological warfare operation – ‘Cast Thy Bread’ (in Hebrew: shallah lahmekha, from ‘cast thy bread upon the waters’ (shallah lahmekha ʿal pney ha-mayim, Ecclesiastes 11:1)) is partially mentioned, as shallah, in a memoir published in 2000 by Arieh Aharoni, a Palmah officer in 1948, who unequivocally asserted that the operation aimed at poisoning water used by the invading Egyptian army.4
And again in their failed assassination attempted In Jordan.
While Israel has never publicly admitted to the use of chemical weapons it has been caught red-handed on several occasions. One such was the botched attempt to assassinate Palestinian political leader Khaled Meshaal in Amman, on 25 September, 1997. The brazen attempt on the life of the then 41-year-old head of the Hamas Political Bureau sparked a diplomatic row which threatened to wreck the peace deal between Jordan and Israel. The crisis ended with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu making a number of humiliating concessions.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20221011-historians-reveal-israels-use-of-poison-against-palestinians/
Bezalel Smotrich (Ukrainian Terrorist)
Religious Zionism head Bezalel Smotrich said on Monday that human rights organizations are an existential threat to Israel and the incoming government must deal with them by "seizing their funds" and acting against them with legal and security measures...HAARETZ, today
Itamar Ben-Gvir (Iraqi Terrorist)
Itamar Ben-Gvir's Jewish Power party, as part of the Religious Zionism political alliance, is expected to play an influential role in the upcoming Israeli government.https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-far-right-leader-talk-soldiers-hebron-criticisedMarzel was a founding member of Jewish Power, but was banned from running in the August 2019 election over racist statements.
On Wednesday, he said he would be launching a new far-right party, after criticising Ben-Gvir as too "ideologically flexible".
Ben-Gvir has asked to be appointed as the minister of public security, while his ally Bezalel Smotrich covets the role of defence minister.
The prospect of both appointments has provoked alarm from a number of Israel's allies, including the United States.
The US State Department last week condemned as "abhorrent" a decision by Ben-Gvir to attend an event commemorating Kahane, an anti-Palestinian campaigner and advocate of theocracy.
No side is right on this. Extremists lead on both side, and the only thing they know is trying to kill the other one, as if terrorizing people was a solution. They are all wrong, and suffering will continue for decades as long as those extremists won't be set aside. Who is the more guilty is not the point, it's how to get out of this nightmarish situation the real question.
The Holy land seems to be cursed, as a true reflection of what human beings nature is, being savage beasts ready to kill their neighbours for spoil.
== Bring us Dabbsy back! ==
The Palestinian people are in the right.
The Zionist State Terrorist Group are in the wrong.
Zionist State Terrorist Group choose to occupy Palestine, kidnap Palestinian children as human shields, whilst the encircled blockaded population of Gaza have no shelters, no means of escape, and a population of which 50% is under 18. Every attack on Gaza is defacto a war crime, a deliberate targetting of a civilian population the majority of which are children.
Ramallah, May 19, 2022—Israeli soldiers used a 16-year-old Palestinian girl as a human shield in front of an Israeli military vehicle while deployed in the northern occupied West Bank city of Jenin last week.
https://www.dci-palestine.org/israeli_forces_use_palestinian_girl_as_a_human_shield_in_jenin Which is an unbroken thread of Zionist Terror which you conspicuously fail to condemn in your faux concern for human rights,
A United Nations human rights body accused Israeli forces on Thursday of mistreating Palestinian children, including by torturing those in custody and using others as human shields
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-palestinian-israel-children-idUSBRE95J0FR20130620
No there is no equivalence between the occupier and the oppressed, the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people don't exist according to a balance with the Zionist State Terrorist group Hasbara.
Zionism or Anti-Palestinian Racism to give it its proper name, is a genocidal ideology based on the writings of a European Terrorist group of service to the Imperial powers.
It's based on denying rights, including the rights to life to a group based on the ethnicity and national origin, and it's flagrantly racist in its conception and genocidal implementation.
Jews have opposed Zionism longer than anybody else include Palestinians, Balfour's cabinet contained a single Jew, who wrote a blistering letter denouncing the racist idea of Zionism, and every word rings true today.
https://balfourproject.org/edwin-montagu-and-zionism-1917/
"Zionism or Anti-Palestinian Racism to give it its proper name, is a genocidal ideology based on the writings of a European Terrorist group of service to the Imperial powers."
No. Zionism is simply Jews wanting to be able to safely live in the land they have lived in for thousands of years without Europeans, Turks, Syrians, Saudis, Egyptians or Persians killing them because they are Jews, and as Jews, don't have any right to life. The startling thing about Zionism is that it is not about the exclusion of non-Jews, despite thousands of years of being second class under-citizens, but rather elevating Jewish rights to the same level as the other communities in Israel.
Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism. It was first proposed by a Christian
Origins in Calvinistic millennialism
Main articles: History of the Puritans, Millennialism, and Christian Zionism in England and Scotland
Thomas Brightman, an English Puritan, published Shall They Return to Jerusalem Again? in 1615. This was one of the earliest Restorationist works.
Advocacy of the restoration of Palestine as a national homeland for the Jews was first heard among self-identified Christian groups in the 1580s following the Protestant Reformation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism
Palestine had (Religious) Jewish communities living alongside the Muslim and Christian populations, and these Palestinian Jews where also murdered and Dispossessed by the Zionist State Terrorists.
Zionism is the delusion belief that Palestinians living in Palestine, are immigrants, where as Poles living in Poland, are natives "returning home".
Since then European Christians began to consider European Jews, who did not speak Hebrew, as “Semites”, based on the religious Jewish and Christian claims that European Jews were the descendants of the ancient Palestinian Hebrews.
What is remarkable, however, is that no one suggested then - or now - that European Christians were also the descendants of the ancient Palestinian Christians!
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/how-zionists-use-racial-claims-deny-palestinians-right-their-homeland
It's neatly undercut by Polish Athiest Zionist Terrorist Ben-Gurion
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/how-zionists-use-racial-claims-deny-palestinians-right-their-homelandZionists do not claim that today’s Egyptians, Syrians and Iraqis are pure descendants of the invading Arabs, rather than indigenous peoples who mixed with them. Yet, Zionists, like Netanyahu, insist fantastically that all Palestinians are newcomers to Palestine from the Arabian peninsula.
While modern Egyptians non-controversially claim ancient Egyptians as their ancestors, and modern Iraqis claim the Babylonians and the Sumerians, the threat came from Palestinians, who would claim that ancient Hebrews alongside Canaanaites, Philistines and all other ancient inhabitants of Palestine as their ancestors.
The irony, however, was that even the founders of modern Israel, David Ben-Gurion and Yitzhak Ben-Zvi, insisted in a 1918 book that Palestinian peasants - then the majority of the Palestinian population - were the descendants of ancient Hebrews.
The Palestinian peasants, the authors argued, had held on to their Hebrew ancestors’ traditions, most obviously through maintaining the same names for their villages, and that "in their veins, without a doubt, flows much Jewish blood – from the Jewish peasants who in the days of the persecutions and terrible oppression had renounced their tradition and their people in order to maintain their attachment and loyalty to the land of the Jews.”
David Ben-Gurion Polish
Moshe Sharett Russian
Levi Eshkol Ukraine
Yigal Peikowitz Belarus (born in Palestine)
Golda Meir Ukraine
Yitzhak Rabin Belarus / Ukraine (born in Palestine)
Menachem Begin Polish
Yitzhak Shamir Polish
Shimon Peres Polish
That's the first nine Zionist State Terrorist Group ringleaders - all Eastern and Central European Terrorists intent on stealing a part of Western Asian and murdering the Inhabitants.
How do these people "wanting to be able to safely live in the land they have lived in for thousands of years" End up on a different continent imposing a fascist ideology on the population.
Zionism’s arguments are two-pronged: that European converts to Judaism and their descendants who were away for 2,000 years have the “right” to return to their ancient homeland and drive out the inhabitants of the land; and that the Palestinian natives of Palestine are foreigners to their own lands.
Unlike Jews, who can maintain a “right of return” after two millennia of domicile in Europe to an Asian land from which they did not originate, Palestinians, whom Israel expelled in 1948 and after, are denied the right to return to their actual lands after a mere seven decades of expulsion.
What makes this Israeli racist argument acceptable to most white Americans and Europeans is the very racism that has anchored it since the 19th century. We are still steeped in race science and colonial justifications, as we were back in the late 19th century.
The irony is that liberal and conservative supporters of Zionism and Israel among Europeans and Americans, Jews and gentiles alike - who claim to oppose racism and colonialism - find nothing unpalatable in Zionism’s insistent and continuing commitment to both.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/how-zionists-use-racial-claims-deny-palestinians-right-their-homeland
In the entire area, control over these aspects of life lies entirely in Israel’s hands – the sole power determining the population registry; land allocation; voter rolls; and the right (or denial thereof) to travel within, enter or exit any part of the area. The Israeli regime has grown increasingly explicit regarding its Jewish supremacist ideology, a process that has seen two major unmasking milestones in recent years. One was the enactment of Basic Law: Israel – the Nation State of the Jewish People, which declares the distinction between Jews and non-Jews fundamental and legitimate, and permits institutional discrimination in land management and development, housing, citizenship, language and culture. The second came in the form of official statements regarding formal annexation of more parts of the West Bank, attesting to Israel’s long-term intentions and debunking claims of “temporary occupation.”
B’Tselem stresses that the military occupation has not ended: Palestinians in the West Bank remain its direct subjects, while in the Gaza Strip they live under its effective control, exerted from the outside. At the same time, casting Israel as a “democracy” on one side of the Green Line, while it is “temporarily” occupying millions of people on the other side, is divorced from reality. This depiction ignores the fact that this state of affairs has been in place for over fifty years. It fails to take into consideration the hundreds of thousands of Jewish settlers living east of the Green Line. It glosses over the de-jure annexation of East Jerusalem and the de-facto annexation of the rest of the West Bank. These facts lead to the conclusion that these are not two parallel regimes, but a single one, governing the entire area and all the people living in it.
B’Tselem’s Executive Director, Hagai El-Ad: “The fundamental tenets of Israel’s regime, although already implemented for many years, have recently grown more explicit. This happened both with the discussion of de jure annexation after decades of de facto annexation, and with the enactment of the Nation State Basic Law, which took the existing discrimination against Palestinians and turned it into an open constitutional principle. Israel is not a democracy that has a temporary occupation attached to it: it is one regime between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, and we must look at the full picture and see it for what it is: apartheid. This sobering look at reality need not lead to despair, but quite the opposite. It is a call for change. After all, people created this regime, and people can change it.”
https://www.btselem.org/apartheid
The genetic and cultural ties between Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jews is well documented, however inconvenient that is to your preposterous theory that Jew have nothing to do with Palestine. If the Jews had such an easy time in Palestine, why did the families listed have to be so far away from their ancestral home until it safer to return to Israel?
As you well know, until the 1920s the only time the word Palestinian was used to describe someone was as an insult against a Jew. The only Palestinians in Ottoman times were the Jews as the rest of the population identified themselves as "South Syrians". In times of crisis, people will return to "home", which is why the Jews go to Israel. It's also why all the people living in "refugee camps" in Syria are in a "refugee camp" in Syria - they went back to their ancestral home when the fighting started in 48. The Lebanese in Palestine went back to Lebanon and got locked up in "refugee camps" there, and the Jordanians back to Jordan. The Egyptians went to Egypt, which is why Arafat, the Egyptian, went back to Cairo after he failed, along with the rest of the armies of the Arab states to wipe out the Jews in 48. The Jews didn't expel these people, they were told by their leaders to go home until the fighting was finished and all the Jews were dead. They then would be able to return, with the added benefit of the land being Jew-free. It didn't work out that way - boo hoo. The Jews had to fight, otherwise they were dead anyway. The invading armies didn't feel any connection to the land or cause they were fighting for, and decided that dying themselves wasn't worth trying to kill the Jews just because they were Jews.
Only Israel dealt with its refugees. The Arab states have kept their refugees and their descendants as political prisoners, locked up in "refugee camps" and denied equal rights ever since. The dictatorship of the Palestinian Authority even maintains that the Palestinians living under its authority in Palestine are refugees. This is why UNRWA has to have a very different definition of refugee, in order to maintain the fallacy that the people they help to keep enslaved are refugees, despite them being resident in their country of origin. Treat people like shit and tell them it's all the fault of the Jews. Despite being one of the oldest ploys going, it's amazing how successful blaming the Jews for people's problems actually is.
The genetic and cultural ties between Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jews is well documented, however inconvenient that is to your preposterous theory that Jew have nothing to do with Palestine.
Historical research has established for many decades that European Christians and Jews were native European converts to the two Palestinian religions of Christianity and Judaism, and not descendants of their ancient adherents, anymore than today’s Indonesian or Chinese or Bosnian Muslims are descendants of the ancient Arab Muslims of the Arabian peninsula.
But given the force of European racialism and its deeply racist culture then and now, the belief in the foreignness of Jews persisted. It is a belief that the Zionist movement espoused.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/how-zionists-use-racial-claims-deny-palestinians-right-their-homeland
The research refers to that of Historian from the Zionist State
Exploding the myth that there was a forced Jewish exile in the first century at the hands of the Romans, Israeli historian Shlomo Sand argues that most modern Jews descend from converts, whose native lands were scattered across the Middle East and Eastern Europe. In the process, Sand dismantles the founding myth of the Jewish homeland.
https://www.versobooks.com/books/3048-the-invention-of-the-jewish-people
If the Jews had such an easy time in Palestine, why did the families listed have to be so far away from their ancestral home until it safer to return to Israel?
So you want to blame Palestinians for the existence of Jews in Poland, who descend from European converts to Judaism who have never seen Western Asia?
Please expand on this, I bet it's fascinating!
The Ancestral home of Polish Jews is Poland, the Ancestral home of Palestinian Jews is Palestine. Being Jewish is orthogonal to your ethnicity and national origin.
The presence of Polish people of Jewish religion in Poland, who decided that being of service to the imperial powers of the day would allow them to colonise Palestine and expel it's people, is not logically connected to the Ottoman Empire who treated Jews, Christian and Muslims equitably considering the standards of Imperial powers at the time.
It was a lot better to be an Jew in the Ottoman empire than one in Europe, so your argument really must be something special.
Throughout its history, the Ottoman Empire was a place where Jews could live without fear of persecution, a comfort denied to them in most of Europe in the 19th century
The Ottomans first encountered Jews in land they conquered from the Byzantine Empire. This group of Greek-speaking Jews was known as Romaniots. In time, the new Jewish groups became Ottoman subjects. Groups of Jewish people exiled from France during the reign of Sultan Murad II and the Ashkenazi Jews expelled by the Duke of Bavaria Louis IX in 1470 took refuge in the Ottoman Empire.
Sultan Bayezid II accepted tens of thousands of Sephardic Jews escaping from Spain in 1492. They settled in various cities such as Salonika (Thessaloniki), Smyrna (İzmir) and Constantinople in particular. Likewise, groups of Jews who managed to escape massacres in Poland and Ukraine in 1660 settled in the Ottoman Empire, as well.
Urbanites
Around 90 percent of Ottoman Jews were of Sephardic origin and lived in cities, including Constantinople, Salonika, Smyrna, Edirne, Bursa, Jerusalem, Safed, Cairo, Ankara, Tokat and Amasya. During the reign of Süleyman the Magnificent, when Constantinople had a population of 500,000, the number of Ottoman Jews was around 40,000. In Salonika, the biggest Jewish city in the world at the time, Ottoman Jews constituted more than half of the population.
Unfamiliar with the anti-Semitic movement, the Ottoman Empire was one of the few places in the world where Jews could live freely. In 19th century Europe, they lived in harsh conditions, often in closed quarters called ghettos, and were deprived freedom of religion, holding public office and even the right to live. They were also denied the rights to acquire property, get an education, travel, found printing houses and publishing newspapers.
https://www.dailysabah.com/feature/2017/10/13/jewish-community-in-ottoman-empire
Let's hear it.
As you well know, until the 1920s the only time the word Palestinian was used to describe someone was as an insult against a Jew
I don't know any such thing, and neither do you, since it's patently Zionist Hasbra.
The indigenous people of Palestine are the Palestinian people. The use of Palestinian to refer to the people of Palestine dates back to antiquity
First documented in the late Bronze age, about 3200 years ago, the name Palestine is the conventional name used between 450BC and 1948AD to describe a geographic region between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River and various adjoining lands.
Palestine, A four thousand year history.
The only Palestinians in Ottoman times were the Jews as the rest of the population identified themselves as "South Syrians"
Hasbra Try again Under Victoria
Conder later became a patron of Zionist groups in London, noting that if Palestine was colonised and farmed according to European methods, it “may become a very important source of corn supply for England”.
Such colonial attitudes would prefigure practical plans for settler colonisation in Palestine. Such schemes, which predated the emergence of Jewish groups advocating emigration to Palestine in the 1880s, had little to do with genuine solidarity with the oppression Jews were suffering in the murderous pogroms then taking place in the Russian empire.
'Overcrowded London'
In 1882, Elizabeth Anne Finn, the widow of Britain’s former consul in Jerusalem, founded the Syrian Colonisation Fund, which sent Jews to work in often inhospitable conditions in Cyprus, Syria and Palestine.
“This society helps refugees to leave England in search of new homes,” Finn wrote in a newspaper, beseeching funds to help relieve what she called “the congestion and anxiety here in overcrowded London” by ensuring refugees ended up in Palestine rather than Britain.
The British name which became most closely associated with settler colonialism in Palestine, decades before Theodor Herzl authored his treatise The Jewish State, was that of Laurence Oliphant.
An aristocrat who was a personal friend of Queen Victoria, Oliphant achieved fame as a traveller, novelist and parliamentarian before he took an interest in Palestine in the late 1870s.
Oliphant visited Palestine in 1879, looking for an area to establish a large Jewish colony. Forced to admit that the fertile land in Palestine west of the River Jordan was “already under cultivation by the resident [Arab] population”, he instead looked east to present-day Jordan, where he identified an area of land of 1.5m acres.
Yet this area, too, was populated, especially by Bedouin tribes. Oliphant recommended their ethnic cleansing from the area, believing that “there would be no difficulty in clearing them out”.
When his plan failed, he settled near Haifa, devoting the rest of his life to aiding the early Zionist settlers.
The crimes of British rule in Palestine from 1917 to 1948 were built on these colonial foundations, and subsequent British policies have merely engrained the injustice.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/britain-palestine-victorian-crusade-colonisation
in times of crisis, people will return to "home", which is why the Jews go to Israel
Palestine is the home of Palestinian, Poland is the home of the Polish.
Being Jewish doesn't entitle a Pole to claim Palestine as a "origin", it's nakedly racist that you advance the idea that People who's ethnic origin in Palestinian are simply subhuman to be murdered and displaced while you make facile comparisons that you must surely not believe.
All people Jew, Muslim, Atheist, and people of faith and none, should be treated equally under the law. A regime of Terrorists is not excusable because of European origins of the colonizers.
It is you that makes the naked racist statements. Yes, some Jews may have family history of living in Poland, but most Israelis have family history from Palestine or the surrounding areas in the region. The same surrounding areas that the Palestinian "refugees" come from. The difference between the two groups is that the Jews were ethnically cleansed from the region beyond Israel, while the "refugees" are kept as political prisoners by the regimes in the surrounding countries. To say Israeli Jews are Poles is simply wrong and clear racism.
You are projecting on to me your own beliefs. Zionism is fundamentally a belief that Jews should be treated as equals. At no point have I said or inferred that anyone should be treated as subhuman, murdered or displaced. That is how the region has treated it Jewish population (and its Yazidis, Baháʼís and others for example). Israel is the only country in the region that has equal rights for all its citizens. It is only in Israel that its citizens as "Jew, Muslim, Atheist, and people of faith and none," are "treated equally under the law." You want to destroy that, cleanse the area of it's Jews ("from the river to the sea") and replace it with another corrupt basket case of a state where human rights abuse, intolerance and eschatological justified violence becomes the normal and miserable existence for its remaining population.
All the people in the region deserve an Israeli way of life. The sooner that Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Yemen, Iran and all the others start to try to treat their own people and others that way, the better.
It is you that makes the naked racist statements. no doubt you can substantiate this barefaced lie.
Yes, some Jews may have family history of living in Poland, but most Israelis have family history from Palestine or the surrounding areas in the region. There is no such Place, Palestine on the other hand, is currently under occupation by a population largely from Eastern and Central Europe of which over two million people comes from former Soviet states.
Hundreds of thousands of the immigrants from the former Soviet Union who have arrived in Israel between 1989 and the present are not Jewish, yet they legally gain Israeli citizenship under the Law of Return. The flow of so many non-Jewish, non-Arabs into the "Jewish" state greatly complicates the demographic, cultural, statistical, and political landscape. This article explains the legal, bureaucratic, and political conditions which have sustained this immigration and suggests some of its long-term implications for the political identity of the country.https://www.jstor.org/stable/4329354
Most immigrants arrived in Israel from Russia (30%), France (15%), the United States (14%), and Ukraine (12%).Since Israel’s founding, 3.3 million people have immigrated to the country, 45% of them arriving since 1990.
“Most of the immigrants coming to Israel from Russia and Ukraine in recent years do not qualify as Jewish under religious law, even if they are eligible for citizenship,” J
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/latest-population-statistics-for-israel
The same surrounding areas that the Palestinian "refugees" come from. The difference between the two groups is that the Jews were ethnically cleansed from the region beyond Israel, while the "refugees" are kept as political prisoners by the regimes in the surrounding countries
Firstly stop blaming "The Jews" for the actions of the Zionist State Terrorist group, Zionist as a racist ideology has been denounced by religious Jews, and eagerly adopted by racists who saw a means to remove Jewish people from Europe whilst profiting from dispossession of the Palestinian People.
The Zionist State Terrorists where willing to ally with monsters and murders. even after the full extent of European Barbarism became known to them.
“That might be reassuring, but for the disturbing memory (of the Stern Gang) . . . which, with the Final Solution already under way in all but name, sought out German cooperation in the setting up here of a Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis.”
The Stern Gang was an underground group of which Shamir was a leader. It tried to make an alliance with Nazi Germany in 1941 to oppose British rule in Palestine in exchange for the release of Jews from Nazi hands.
Mainstream Jewish leaders in Palestine condemned the idea of a Nazi alliance. They considered the Sternists fanatics and outcasts and were at that time raising troops for the Allies.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-03-07-mn-330-story.html
This was a Polish Terrorist who wanted to collaborate with a murderous European monster, who you pretend has a claim on Western Asia, while attempted to suggest all Zionist State Terrorist Group Settler Colonialists are described as being Polish.
David Ben-Gurion Polish
Moshe Sharett Russian
Levi Eshkol Ukraine
Yigal Peikowitz Belarus (born in Palestine)
Golda Meir Ukraine
Yitzhak Rabin Belarus / Ukraine (born in Palestine)
Menachem Begin Polish
Yitzhak Shamir Polish
Shimon Peres Polish
That's the first nine Zionist State Terrorist Group ringleaders - all Eastern and Central European Terrorists intent on stealing a part of Western Asian and murdering the Inhabitants.
How do these people "wanting to be able to safely live in the land they have lived in for thousands of years" end up on a different continent imposing a fascist ideology on the population.
(With the exception of a hostile statement by concentration camp survivors against Shamir when he first took power in 1983, the Israeli press virtually never mentions the episode. )
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-03-07-mn-330-story.html
The goal of the NMO is the establishment of the Jewish state within its historic borders.
The NMO, in contrast to all Zionist trends, rejects colonizatory infiltration as the only means of making accessible and gradually taking possession of the fatherland and practices its slogan, the struggle and the sacrifice, as the only true means for the conquest and liberation of Palestine.
On account of its militant character and its anti-English disposition the NMO is forced, under constant persecutions by the English administration, to exercise its political activity and the military training of its members in Palestine in secret.
The NMO, whose terrorist activities began as early as the autumn of the year 1936, became, after the publication of the British White Papers, especially prominent in the summer of 1939 through successful intensification of its terroristic activity and sabotage of English properly. At that lime these activities, as well as daily secret radio broadcasts, were noticed and discussed by virtually the entire world press.
The NMO maintained independent political offices in Warsaw, Paris. London and New York until the beginning of the war.
The office in Warsaw was mainly concerned with the military organization and training of the national Zionist youth and was closely connected with the Jewish masseswho, especially in Poland, sustained and enthusiastically supported, in every manner, the fight of the NMO in Palestine. Two newspapers were published in Warsaw (The Deed and Liberated Jerusalem): these were organs of the NMO.
The office in Warsaw maintained close relations with the former Polish government and those military circles, who brought greatest sympathy and understanding towards the aims of the NMO. Thus, in the year 1939 selected groups of NMO members were sent from Palestine to Poland, where their military training was completed in barracks by Polish officers.
The negotiations, for the purpose of activating and concertizing their aid, took place between the NMO and the Polish government in Warsaw ? the evidence of which can easily be found in the archives of the former Polish government ? were terminated because of the beginning of the war.
The NMO is closely related to the totalitarian movements of Europe in its ideology and structure.
The fighting capacity of the NMO could never be paralyzed or seriously weakened, neither through strong defensive measures by the English administration and the Arabs, nor by those of the Jewish socialists.
https://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Palestine-Remembered/Story799.html
You are projecting on to me your own beliefs. Zionism is fundamentally a belief that Jews should be treated as equals. At no point have I said or inferred that anyone should be treated as subhuman, murdered or displaced.
Dissolving the Apartheid regime would replace Zionist State with a binational democratic country called Palestine, in which Jews, Muslims, Christians, Atheists, and followers of the flying spaghetti monster (bless his noodlely appendages) would have equal rights under the law.
As a zionist, you describe this as "racists", "a call for genocide". It's embarassing the lack of argument, it's been over 100 years, do you have anything other than bluster and naked racism to defend Zionism as the 100 years of Zionist State Terror has shown Zionism remarkably faithful to writings of Jabotinsky and Hetrzl.
The right of return is the rights in the Geneva convention of refugees who were expelled from Palestine by Zionist Terrorist Gangs, and have a legal right to return to their homes, lands, and property..
Zionism is a genocidal idea that immigrant population of settler colonialists from the world at large are returning to a place they've never set foot in.
Zionism rests on the racist idea that the right of return, infact human rights don't apply to the Palestinian people. https://www.timesofisrael.com/smotrich-says-human-rights-organizations-are-existential-threat-to-israel/
Israel is the only country in the region that has equal rights for all its citizens. It is only in Israel that its citizens as "Jew, Muslim, Atheist, and people of faith and none," are "treated equally under the law."
BUT THERE was more to it. I rely on a 1992 article about Shamir and Lehi by the esteemed human rights advocate, the late Israel Shahak. He himself quotes from a book about the Lehi written by an Israeli named Dr. Yosef Heller (no relation), written in Hebrew in 1988.
Heller explains that Avraham Stern admired the Nazi and Italian fascists. In 1940, Mussolini's air force bombed Tel Aviv, killing 100 people and injuring hundreds more. No doubt most Palestinians, Jews and Arabs alike, were horrified. Stern had a different reaction. According to the Heller book, the attack "impressed him deeply," and Stern became convinced that Italy would be victorious.
Stern "expressly stated his wish to be like Quisling, already known then as the ruler of Norway on Hitler's behalf. He wanted to perform the same role in the 'kingdom of Israel' allied with the Nazis." And the borders of this kingdom? From the Nile to the Euphrates!
Stern was serious about creating a monarchy. He detested democracy. According to Yosef Heller, Stern wrote, "Democracy as a goal in itself is something we should have nothing to do with." In conformity with this notion, Lehi under Stern's inspiration praised the Nazis extravagantly for locking the Polish Jews into the ghettos, contrasting this favorably with the conditions of Jewish life in Poland before the Nazi invasion.
The Stern Gang killed a growing number of Jewish and British colonial police. The British caught up with Avraham Stern in Tel Aviv in February 1942 and, according to a witness, tied him up and murdered him. Shamir and others were arrested, but later escaped.
No more was said about linking up with Hitler, but Lehi continued to fight against the British during the war. In 1944, they assassinated Lord Moyne, the highest British official in the Middle East. One of the killers was Eliyahu Bet-Zuri, who was later hanged. In 2011, the London Telegraph newspaper reported that MI5 files included a report saying that in 1944, Bet-Zuri suggested the group assassinate Winston Churchill.
Obviously, they never did that, but they killed. They killed Arabs, they killed the UN's first mediator (and Second World War rescuer of Jews) Count Folke Bernadotte, and they took part in the infamous Deir Yassin massacre. And they killed Jews--many Jews. In fact, most of their 42 assassinations were of Jews--some for supposedly collaborating, some for trying to leaving Lehi.
https://socialistworker.org/2012/07/23/tell-the-truth-about-shamir
That is how the region has treated it Jewish population (and its Yazidis, Baháʼís and others for example). Classic Racist Zionist hasbra.
Palestine rights are not related to other countries, despite you seeing the colonised people as being a faceless interchangeable people who exist only notionally.
In Iraq, Jews were the richest in all the Arab world, and they left Baghdad after a Zionist State Terrorist campaign of Bombing. Firstly the wealth and position in society rather argues against your nonsense. It's European history that has the racism towards Jews, your history, not the History of the Region, which was why Zionist started in Europe, the Dreyfuss Affair happened in Europe, the Shoa happened in Europe.
And why the largest, safest richest population of Jews in the world was in the Middle East, safe from the European Barbary until Zionism found it's Imperial Sponsor.
The clearest parallel is the repatriation of looted art stolen by the Nazis. https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/feb/10/justice-can-triumph-painting-looted-by-nazis-returned-to-owners-after-80-years
94% of Palestine was held in private hands and Stolen by Zionist State Terrorists, who thieves and murders must be held accountable under the rule of law.
The rest of you screed is deluded, people can live where they want, with whom they want, with the same rights and freedoms as each other - just like before the Zionist occupation began.
With equal measures of freedom, dignity, equity, and opportunity, protected equally under the law, instead of the disgusting state of affairs that sees children kidnapped and forced to consume petrol, set ablaze so that crowds of jeering fanatics can taunt small children they tool will be burnt alive.
Israel is the only country in the region that has equal rights for all its citizens. The Zionist State Terrorist group doesn't even have equal rights for Jews, let alone the people living under the violent occupation by the fascist regime.
https://www.adalah.org/en/content/view/7771Adalah’s Discriminatory Laws Database (DLD) is an online resource comprising a list of over 65 Israeli laws that discriminate directly or indirectly against Palestinian citizens in Israel and/or Palestinian residents of the Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT) on the basis of their national belonging. The discrimination in these laws is either explicit – “discrimination on its face” – or, more often, the laws are worded in a seemingly neutral manner, but have or will likely have a disparate impact on Palestinians in their implementation.
These laws limit the rights of Palestinians in all areas of life, from citizenship rights to the right to political participation, land and housing rights, education rights, cultural and language rights, religious rights, and due process rights during detention. Some of the laws also discriminate against other groups such as gays, non-religious Jews, and Palestinian refugees.
Why are you not on the side of the righteous?
How did you find yourself arguing what in your heart, you must know to be false. Why do you not say "do not unto others what is hateful to you, that is the law, all else is commentary".
Apartheid is wrong, murdering people is wrong, it's really that basic. The murderous technologies perfected on Palestine and it's people are now exported across the world, including to the dictatorial regimes of the middle east. Zionist State Terrorist Cyber Weaponry resulted in a man being dismembered in a Saudi Embassy.
Oh and there is the whole Palestinians being people thing..
As a human being with functional emotions, I don't restrict my sympathy and empathy towards the suffering of others based on national origin.
An elderly women being made homeless and left without water in a desert, ought to make a functional approximation at a human being oppose the perpetrators.
She could be my relative, or my neighbour, or my teacher, or my friend, or just some fellow human, as entitled to sun on her skin and wind in her hair as any.
“They [Israel] did not even take into consideration the humanitarian side, that there are babies, children, elderly people and women who have spent their night homeless, under the rain,” he said. “The same goes for the animals, the sheep and cattle, who also spent the night under the rain.”
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-children-homeless-jordan-valley
The Palestinians have spent 75 years surviving a slow motion genocide called the continuous Nakba.
This article contends that Israeli policies that were enacted after the introduction of the siege in Gaza amount to slow-motion genocide. The United Nations has repeatedly warned of the serious implications of the Israeli siege and asserted that Gaza could soon be uninhabitable [Miriam Berger, ‘The U.N. Once Predicted Gaza Would Be “Uninhabitable” by 2020. Two Million People Still Live There’, Washington Post, January 2, 2020, https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/01/01/un-predicted-gaza-would-be-uninhabitable-by-heres-what-that-actually-means/]. The present study adopts a sociological perspective and argues that genocide should be understood as a social practice rather than physical annihilation or merely mass killing of a group of people. It also situates the siege within a larger settler-colonial framework and emphasises the processual nature of the Nakba.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13642987.2022.2065261
Palestinians have suffered for over a hundred years of Zionist conquest, and yet they retain the magnificence to offer to share the country with equity.
You need only be human to admire and support someone who will forgo food for 180 days, in protest at being held without charge in an Zionist gulag.
Palestinian prisoner Khalil Awawdeh, on his 180th day of hunger strike, issued a video message to the people of the world, where he speaks slowly and laboriously, with his emaciated body visible, highlighting the justice of the Palestinian cause:
“Oh, free people of the world, this suffering body, of which nothing remains but skin and bones, does not reflect a weakness and vulnerability of the Palestinian people, but rather is a mirror reflecting the true face of the occupation, which claims to be a ‘democratic state’, at a time when it holds a prisoner without any charges in the brutal administrative detention, saying with his body and his blood: No to administrative detention! No to administrative detention!
We are a people who have a just cause that will remain a just cause, and we will always stand against administrative detention, this injustice, even if the skin is gone, even if the bone deteriorates, even if the soul is gone.
Be assured, be confident, that we have the right and our cause is just, regardless of the high price paid.
Bless you and peace be upon you.”
https://samidoun.net/2022/08/khalil-awawdehs-message-to-the-world-our-cause-is-just-regardless-of-the-high-price-paid/
It is only in Israel that its citizens as "Jew, Muslim, Atheist, and people of faith and none," are "treated equally under the law." You want to destroy that, cleanse the area of it's Jews ("from the river to the sea") and replace it with another corrupt basket case of a state where human rights abuse, intolerance and eschatological justified violence becomes the normal and miserable existence for its remaining population.
All the people in the region deserve an Israeli way of life. The sooner that Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Yemen, Iran and all the others start to try to treat their own people and others that way, the better.
You are wishing that other countries will also have to host the detritus of the world, who come to Occupied Palestine, to murder, rob, rape, molest children and the elderly with impunity, to demolish homes, prevent children from attending schools.
I hope such an calamity never comes to pass.
Your desire to curse the region with Apartheid and occupation by openly racist suprematists terrorists who are documented as using biological weapons,All the people in the region deserve an Israeli way of life. The sooner that Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Yemen, Iran and all the others start to try to treat their own people and others that way, the better.
My making quite clear people who participate in murder, rob, rape, molest children and the elderly with impunity, to demolish homes, prevent children from attending school, are the "Detritus of the world", I condemn them for their actions, not because they are atheists who managed to forge a great grandparent from Poland who made a mean Gefilte fish.
You are wishing that other countries will also have to host the detritus of the world, who come to Occupied Palestine, to murder, rob, rape, molest children and the elderly with impunity, to demolish homes, prevent children from attending schools.
I hope such an calamity never comes to pass.
The Zionist State Terrorist group's acts of Terrorism are the issue. In point of fact, largely atheists including both major authors of Zionism: Herzl (Austrian) and Ben Gurion(Polish) who's hatred of Jews was legendary to the point of forcibly cutting off Payot from young boys.
Are you suggesting that the people who move countries to impose an brutal apartheid on the survivors of a ongoing genocide and campaign of dispossession would not be "The detritus of the world" if the Terrorist group has been comprised of Polish Catholics rather than Atheists, Christians like Ord Windgate and Balfour, and Churchill, all Zionists.
“People have to understand that the backbone of Israel’s support in the United States is the evangelical Christians,” he said, pointing to the fact that evangelicals comprise about a quarter of Americans while Jews make up less than two percent of the population. He also noted that it’s “very rare” for evangelicals to criticise Israel, while American Jews are “disproportionately among [Israel’s] critics”.
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/5/26/biden-palestine-and-the-buttressing-of-christian-zionism
Yet another example of a Polish Zionist State Terrorist anyone should be treated as subhuman, murdered or displaced who definition of Zionism is Anti Palestinian racism, he's just more honest than you.
Dov Leinwand (later Lior) was born to a Belz Hasidic family, son to Moshe Leinwand, in Jarosław, western Galicia, Poland
Meet the powerful rabbi who once called for killing innocent Palestinians
Rabbi Dov Lior is the spiritual leader of a coalition now set to be part of Netanyahu's government
...
As far-right politician Itamar Ben-Gvir is set to become Israel’s next minister of national security, his spiritual guide and ally Rabbi Dov Lior has come under the spotlight for his potential "racist" influence on the new government.
Lior, a proponent of the ethnic cleansing of Arab Muslims, is the spiritual leader for the entire far-right Religious Zionism coalition, which includes three parties: Religious Zionism, Jewish Power and Noam.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-rabbi-dov-lior-killing-innocent-palestinians
It wasn't "Jews", it was Zionist State Terrorists largely from Poland and Russia, Terrorists who murdered Jews who spoke out against their depravity.
The Jews didn't expel these people, they were told by their leaders to go home until the fighting was finished and all the Jews were dead. They then would be able to return, with the added benefit of the land being Jew-free. It didn't work out that way - boo hoo. The Jews had to fight, otherwise they were dead anyway.
The Terrorists outnumbered the largely unarmed Palestinian population massively, they had the support of the leading imperial powers of the day, and were supported by the British having destroying the capability of the population to defend themselves in 1936.
The only place the Terrorists group actually faced any kind of proper army in resistance was the Jordanian army led by John Glub, who easily routed the rabble.
The facts are well documented.
he public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.
Attack on Arab Village
A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants (240 men, women, and children) and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.
The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party.
Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model.
During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.
The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots.
Discrepancies Seen
The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal.
In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin's efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.
The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.
He had enough headaches with his people already, the biggest of which was that the wrong Jews were arriving. American Jews didn’t want to come; Soviet Jews couldn’t come. Instead, Israel was getting what he called ‘human debris’: Holocaust survivors (‘Everything they had endured purged their souls of all good’) and Mizrahi Jews whose lives in Arab countries had become all but impossible after Israel’s creation. In 1949, nearly one in ten of Israel’s first million citizens lived in camps, waiting to be ‘absorbed’ into the state. The Mizrahis presented a particular challenge, as Ben-Gurion saw it, since ‘these people do not know how to make hygienic use of a toilet in a home.’ (He suggested building outhouses for them instead.) ‘We came here as Europeans,’ Ben-Gurion insisted; he did everything in his power to prevent the state’s ‘Levantisation’. And Arab Jews, of course, looked and dressed like Arabs, which was a problem from the vantage point of security.
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v41/n20/adam-shatz/we-are-conquerors
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