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It's a small world (after all) but it got a lot smaller for the heaving masses who were trapped inside Shanghai Disneyland as a result of China's zero-COVID policy. Though the animation titan's theme parks are commonly claimed to be The Happiest Place on Earth, Minnie of the visitors must have thought local government was …

  1. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

    I would have thought it was impossible

    -> zero-COVID policy

    While I applaud the aim as something to aim for I would have thought it was an impossible target. This is not the first corona virus and it won't be the last. I am not a doctor

    1. Evil Auditor Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: I would have thought it was impossible

      ...I would have thought it was an impossible target.

      As it turns out, and China keeps demonstrating, it is an impossible target. The problem (i.e. one of the problems) there is, the governing structure is unable to admit a mistake and must continue with whatever inept decision was taken in the first place. Anyhow, this is obviously only my totally unfounded opinion, and see icon.

      1. Fr. Ted Crilly Silver badge
        Big Brother

        Re: I would have thought it was impossible

        ' I tell you, Winston, that reality is not external. Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else. Not in the individual mind, which can make mistakes, and in any case soon perishes: only in the mind of the Party, which is collective and immortal. Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party. '

      2. vtcodger Silver badge

        Re: I would have thought it was impossible

        I started off to say that China's zero-Covid policy worked very well in 2020 -- a world with no vaccines and no effective antivirals. But I have some doubts that it's still a good idea.

        Compare China -- zero-Covid policy, only a few (but severe) lockdowns, less than 6000 Covid related fatalities in a population of 1.3B -- with the US -- pretend Covid doesn't exist policy -- widespread, long lasting lockdowns and collateral economic damage, over a million fatalities in a population one fourth that of China. Hard to argue that early on, zero-Covid wasn't a far better strategy.

        But today we have vaccines and Paxlovid. So one questions that zero-Covid is still a good idea.

        Except, when I went to look up some numbers, I found that the US is currently experiencing about 300 Covid related fatalities a day. (It varies week to week apparently) That's about 110,000 a year. China? Close to zero. I wouldn't be surprised that China's numbers are less than completely honest. But probably not dramatically so. We'd likely hear about 9000 deaths a month if their numbers per capita matched the US. It does look like zero-Covid still works well enough to prevent a lot of hospital time and deaths and associated financial and social costs

        My take. It's not as clear as it was early on in the pandemic. But maybe the Chinese do know what they are about. (And maybe they don't).

        1. adam 40 Silver badge
          Pirate

          Re: I would have thought it was impossible

          According to Worldometer, China has had no COVID deaths in the last few months.

          https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/

          The stats on COVID out of China are ridiculous and implausible.

          So we have no way of telling if "Zero COVID" is indeed an effective policy, or otherwise.

          1. Evil Auditor Silver badge

            Re: I would have thought it was impossible

            ...if "Zero COVID" is indeed an effective policy...

            As Fr. Ted Crilly very accurately quoted 1984China's Communist Party Book, it's been decided long ago that the policy is indeed effective and therefore it is. That is the truth and anything else is ridiculous and implausible and who says otherwise is obviously insane and will be treated in suitable institutions for their own good.

        2. Someone Else Silver badge

          Re: I would have thought it was impossible

          [...] less than 6000 Covid related fatalities in a population of 1.3B [...]

          Here, have another taste of this really delicious Kool-Aid....

      3. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

        Re: I would have thought it was impossible

        The problem (i.e. one of the problems) there is, the governing structure is unable to admit a mistake and must continue with whatever inept decision was taken in the first place.

        China's pre-Xi Xinping governing system was better fitted to this. Set up by Deng Xiaoping after the death of Mao was this system where about every 5 years the Party would change its leadership at the Party Conference. New Prime Minster and change some Politburu members, then old PM becomes President and previous President retires.

        This was really done because almost everybody in the Party hierarchy had been purged and/or imprisoned by Mao at some point in their carrer. Including Deng (and also Xi's father). So this way stopped any one leader from having too much power - and incentivised them not to piss off too many people, as they'd eventually be retiring themselves.

        It also has the advantage that it naturally creates a space for politics. The Prime Minister is not in charge now, but will be next. Which gives them independent power from the President, and forces them to consult. There's also jockeying to be on the next slate of candidates promoted to the Politburu, so you naturally have to quietly campaign and this way there's always policy battles being fought with the personal ones. It's not the greatest system, but it allows flexibility. There's a group of people associated with a policy and if it fails, they probably lose out.

        In extreme cases the party can disavow some policy disaster when the President goes by blaming it all on them, and moving on.

        I've no idea what possessed the rest of the Party to hand back total power to one man again. But the inflexibility and purges are back too.

        Once a policy is identified as Xi's policy it's very tough to change. When Covid cover-up first failed in late 2019 / early 2020 - Xi could personally step in and say he was taking over. But now his policy of Zero Covid is failing, he's nobody to blame. And if he's not infallible, then what's the point of him being dictator for life? This is how dictatorships ossify. After which they usually start to deteriorate.

  2. spireite Silver badge

    Heating

    If they are kept in, hope it's warm otherwise they'll be Frozen

    1. sanmigueelbeer

      Re: Heating

      Hi-ho, hi-ho

      Back to quarantine I go

      1. AndrueC Silver badge
        Joke

        Re: Heating

        With a shovel and a pick and a bucket full of sick?

        1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
          Coat

          Re: Heating

          Thanks for the earworm you two, I can expand on the verse a little, Icon - As getting your coat seems pointless.

          We shit shit shit shit shit shit shit in our hotels the whole day through

          To shit shit shit shit shit shit shit is what we really hate to do

          It ain't no trick to get Covid quick with a Disneyland china ticket and a bog full of sick

          In a dive! In a dive! In a dive! In a dive!

          Where 34,000 tourists whine!

  3. Kevin McMurtrie Silver badge
    Trollface

    The virus spreads quickly

    Because it's a small world after all.

    1. David 132 Silver badge
      Happy

      Re: The virus spreads quickly

      Such a good joke that the article writer used it in the very first sentence :)

      1. Kevin McMurtrie Silver badge
        Facepalm

        Re: The virus spreads quickly

        Doh! I didn't see it somehow reading it on a cellphone.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Big Brother

    While it may seem Cruella and unusual

    Good job, Vulture. You can barely see the Stretch marks in the text.

  5. Mostly Irrelevant

    Isn't that the wrong way around? Shouldn't they be testing on the way in, not out?

    1. G2

      if they did that they would not have their money from the admission fees and neither from whatever purchases those trapped inside have to make just to keep living. Have you seen their price for a bottle of water?

  6. Winkypop Silver badge
    Alert

    Trying to escape IKEA

    Some things are universal

    1. Evil Auditor Silver badge
      Boffin

      Re: Trying to escape IKEA

      Ever since I figured that it's easier not to enter an IKEA than to leave it, my life improved considerably.

      1. LogicGate Silver badge

        Re: Trying to escape IKEA

        Ah.. you have experienced the IKEA transformation aswell?

        https://nemi-comics.ru/media/k2/items/cache/85b77338ef92a525bbfc65aa379c16c5_L.jpg

        -Ignore the russian translation, it was the best I could find. The pictures, however, speak for themselves.

        1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
          Unhappy

          Re: Trying to escape IKEA

          One of my regrets of leaving a contract was my daily dose of Nemi in The Metro.

      2. Muscleguy

        Re: Trying to escape IKEA

        I’m in Dundee and the nearest one is South of Edinburgh requiring engagement with the dreaded Bypass. But you can order some stuff online now. So let joy be unconfined. Especially since I require no more furniture. Some of it is Ikea but with careful use it is still fine. Also bought long enough ago that it was actually solid stuff.

    2. Kane
      Thumb Up

      Re: Trying to escape IKEA

      SCP-3008

  7. Andy The Hat Silver badge

    I assume El-Reg media has few plans to expand into China ...?

    A more correct p.c. editorial approach would result in "China's supreme leader, who does not resemble Winnie the Pooh ...". You could even include a couple of pictures to show the complete dissimilarity ...

    1. John Sager

      Apparently you can't even refer to WtP there, even obliquely. No doubt there are fiendish Chinese euphemisms to overcome that.

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