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Electric vehicle charging is about to get a boost in 34 US states and Puerto Rico, as government officials have approved plans to start spending infrastructure bill money on building EV chargers. Announced yesterday by the US Department of Transportation, the awardees are set to receive portions of $900 million in funds from …

  1. ian 22
    Alert

    California must increase electric generating capacity

    California currently (pun not intended) has the largest grid-scale switchable battery storage in the world at 6000 megawatts. Every new solar field in California includes battery storage. However, they must increase the power available (now about 52000 megawatts) by 68% to accommodate a complete replacement of ICE vehicles and add fully electric buildings without natural gas heating.

    1. jake Silver badge

      Re: California must increase electric generating capacity

      Batteries at the Grid level are a red herring, for a lot of reasons.

      What this state needs is a nuclear program. And it needs it thirty years ago.

      Lots of cheep nuclear power will also solve the other problem: WATER ... Desalination is the answer. We have the entire Pacific to draw from for raw material.

      The third problem is comparatively easy: Homelessness. Simply stop throwing money at people who came here from out of state and they will stop coming. We can take care of our own. More cheap to free electricity will help.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: California must increase electric generating capacity

        Lots of cheep nuclear power

        For the birds? Or Murrican spelling

        1. jake Silver badge

          Re: California must increase electric generating capacity

          Common typoe. Happens.

          ::shrugs::

  2. MrMerrymaker

    Good

    He ain't perfect but this is good news.

    Shame some folks want the insane tangerine man back

    1. jake Silver badge

      Re: Good

      No, it's not good news.

      The nation doesn't have the power for this boondoggle. It's greenwashing at its finest.

      Remember, this kind of electrical power doesn't magically appear anywhere that an electrician hooks up a plug ... it has to be generated somewhere first.

      We should be working on increasing the nation's nuclear infrastructure. It is the only real way forward. Unfortunately, the greenaholics put the kibosh on that back in the '70s.

      Whodathunk the hippies would be solely responsible for ruining the Earth?

      Shows what a whole lot of ignorance & very little science gets you ...

      1. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge
        Joke

        Re: Good

        You mean you don't get power from a plug? PSSSHT! Next thing you'll be trying to tell us food doesn't come from the grocery store and water doesn't come from the faucet!

        What's sad is how many people really believe that their food, water and power really come from the point if sale/use, and that millions of people aren't engaged in doing the grunt work necessary to supply it to them.

        I'm with you though, rolling out the tens of thousands of chargers Puddin Head is calling for will be useless without also rolling out a few hundred nuclear reactors to power them IF you don't want them supplied with fossil fuels. Wind and solar cannot provide enough to do the job.

      2. HereIAmJH

        Re: Good

        Remember, this kind of electrical power doesn't magically appear anywhere that an electrician hooks up a plug ... it has to be generated somewhere first.

        Capacity will come as demand increases. Unless you're in Texas.

        While I do believe we should be building new nuclear plants using this century's technologies, there is also a lot of new solar and wind generation coming online every year. Something the Federal government should be addressing are distribution networks.

        1. jake Silver badge

          Re: Good

          "Capacity will come as demand increases."

          Demand won't increase until there is capacity. California had rotating blackouts every day last week (a fact somehow missed by the local ultra-green news broadcasts, but quite visible on PG&E's "outages" map). We quite simply can't charge what we have now, so why would the proverbial thinking man throw away a perfectly good hydrocarbon car that will get him to work every day, regardless of the state of the electrical grid, for a very expensive all-electric car that can't be charged when the grid is down?

    2. jake Silver badge

      In other news

      "Shame some folks want the insane tangerine man back"

      Insane orange man bad. Do not want!

    3. codejunky Silver badge

      Re: Good

      @MrMerrymaker

      "Shame some folks want the insane tangerine man back"

      To be fair to those people the orange man is between Biden and Obama's presidencies which makes him look good.

      1. jake Silver badge

        Re: Good

        What colo(u)r is the sky on your planet?

        1. codejunky Silver badge

          Re: Good

          @jake

          "What colo(u)r is the sky on your planet?"

          Right now blue with a couple of white clouds. Why? What does that have to do with a business man being such a threat that the president before him and after him wan and are so desperate (even weaponising the state) to keep him out.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Good

          Cloudy with a Chance of Red Pills.

  3. Lordrobot

    Chargers can go next to Bush II's Hydrogen refill stations...

    Bush II picked winners too... BTW, what does the taxpayer get out of all this? The Bill!

  4. Denarius
    Black Helicopters

    nonsense. Follow the Science !. Subsidising the mostly well off is always a good thing. </sarc> BTW, why are 10 year old cars getting more popular ?

    1. jake Silver badge

      "BTW, why are 10 year old cars getting more popular ?"

      You don't want a ten year old car. You want a car from the 1960s. Nearly all of them can be converted to run well on Ethanol in about half an hour. It'll last a lot longer after a restoration, too. And have a little bit of style, to boot.

  5. Pirate Dave Silver badge

    So the Federal initiative is to put enough chargers for 16 cars every 50 miles on the Interstates? And, eh, they want how many millions of EVs on the road by 2030/2035? Something doesn't add up, and the scales seem to be entirely different proportions.

    1. DJO Silver badge

      Of those millions of cars 99% of them are used for less than one hour a day and as long as they can be parked overnight close to a standard mains outlet they need never run out of charge.

      The interstate chargers are for the miniscule proportion of cars who do do long trips.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        And a trombone repair man…

      2. Pirate Dave Silver badge

        You must not live beside an Interstate outside of an utban area - there is anything but a 'miniscule" amount of traffic on them in a given day. I-75 through North Georgia sees tens of thousands of cars travelling far more than 1 hour.

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