back to article Former chip research professor jailed for not disclosing Chinese patents

The former director of the University of Arkansas’ High Density Electronics Center, a research facility that specialises in electronic packaging and multichip technology, has been jailed for a year for failing to disclose Chinese patents for his inventions. Professor Simon Saw-Teong Ang was in 2020 indicted for wire fraud and …

  1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    Honestly, guys

    With all the precedents that have been set, and continue to be, you still hire Chinese nationals in national-security-sensitive or highly-demanding engineering posts ?

    Shouldn't there be a bit more background research before hiring when the individual comes from China ?

    You really bring it on yourselves sometimes.

    1. Natalie Gritpants Jr

      Re: Honestly, guys

      I'm not sure that legalizing racism would get you very far. Your enemies would just have to work a bit harder and spend a bit more money to recruit nice WASPs, and then you would have a harder time spotting them. We've been through this in the Cold War with all those nice, respectable Oxbridge types that were Russian spies. And, yes, the Russians are still operating an ex USA president.

      1. Missing Semicolon Silver badge

        Re: Honestly, guys

        At some point, training potential enemies in your latest technology has to seem somewhat ill-advised.

    2. elsergiovolador Silver badge

      Re: Honestly, guys

      Not sure if there is any background search necessary. If CPC wants Chinese individual to start spying, they can't say no.

    3. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

      Re: Honestly, guys

      The world's largest thief of intellectual property is the USA.

      1. vtcodger Silver badge

        Re: Honestly, guys

        If the CIA/NSA et. al. aren't the largest collectors of other people's data on the planet, a lot of we American's tax money is being wasted.

  2. Jon 37

    Don't talk to the police

    This is why you don't talk to the police.

    The case against him was shaky, until he spoke to the FBI. At that point the original case was dropped, he'd given them an easy "lying to the FBI" conviction.

    1. sreynolds

      Re: Don't talk to the police

      It never helps to talk to the police, as it says here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE whatever you say will be used AGAINST you, not for you.

      1. that one in the corner Silver badge

        Re: Don't talk to the police

        That video has been cited quite often on El Reg - does anyone know of anything similar that covers non-US jurisdictions?

  3. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    The national security

    So they hire engineers on pittance and are upset it turns out they try to make money on the side?

    Have they not heard of human nature?

    Pay people enough, so they feel rewarded for their work and content. Then maybe rather than spending time looking where to sell their IP, they would relax with their family etc.

    Engineers should also be more assertive and start unionising. There is huge imbalance between what the institutions they work for make off of their work and what they are getting paid.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: The national security

      If their family is in China, money wont be enough when the CCP comes asking.

      1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

        Re: The national security

        No, it's the money and privilege for the family.

        They want their citizens to willfully cooperate. Sending family off to camps is really the last resort.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "Beijing often tries to level similar allegations against other nations. But those counter-actions can sometimes fall flat:"

    That's a rather odd way to put it. Beijing is far from being the only one to accuse the US of stealing technological secrets, and the US have been proven to be spying more than once, most notably on their allies.

    I'd really like to see "the West", including my own government, leading by example, rather than merely blaming and pointing fingers at others for acts they themselves shamelessly commit.

    https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/espionnage-industriel-les-affaires-qui-ont-fait-trembler-l-economie-1074640

    1. A. Coatsworth Silver badge
      Mushroom

      >>I'd really like to see "the West", including my own government, leading by example, rather than merely blaming and pointing fingers

      Yeah, me too, but international relationships are conducted with the same logic as kindergarten fights. It is profoundly disheartening to hear heads of state using equivalents of "who smelt it dealt it" on topics such as war or human rights violations, without the least trace of irony or self conscience.

  5. markrand

    Serious question

    Were the Chinese patents involved issued prior to his employment at the US university or afterwards?

    Seems to me that if it were the former case, the University should have no more right to preferential access than any other organisation.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "Stealing 'Muricun Secret Sauce"

    Aside from the fact that research is published in scientific journals that anyone can read, and the machines that make the chips will end up being built in China, employing someone who could later be hired by a competitor is just a fact of life.

    I hope they had some better evidence of active espionage and passing secrets than a "who knows how they phrased that question" I don't have any patents slip up (last I looked, searching for patents based on author is pretty straightforward).

    If you really think China is such a threat to the US... I dunno... maybe STOP MANUFACTURING ALL YOUR STUFF THERE... rather than get annoyed at Chinese people doing research in the US and then going back.

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