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Amazon.com has decided to end its Kindle digital book business in China. A statement posted to the Kindle China WeChat account states that Amazon has already stopped sending new Kindle devices to resellers and will cease operations of the Kindle China e-bookstore on June 30, 2023. The Kindle app will last another year, …

  1. Notas Badoff

    Is "The Brick" a modern Tarot card?

    "But after June 30, 2024, Kindle devices in China won’t be able to access content."

    This is the part that makes me never want to buy any of the "magic boxes" on offer. The disappearing trick...

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    2. Tom Chiverton 1

      Re: Is "The Brick" a modern Tarot card?

      Kobo devices show up as plain USB drives and read just about anything you dump there...

      1. Casca Silver badge

        Re: Is "The Brick" a modern Tarot card?

        As does Kindle devices

    3. Chet Mannly

      Re: Is "The Brick" a modern Tarot card?

      You can use Calibre to put ebooks on a Kindle, so I assume that would work.

      And there are ways of *cough* reformatting ebooks bought in the Kindle store so you can still access them. PITA though...

  2. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    "Amazon’s decision should [not] be taken as a sign that foreign investment in China is waning"

    So I'll wait for the list of all the multinationals based outside of China that are not investing (or outright pulling out) in China to make up my own opinion ?

    Maybe if China stopped forcing foreign companies to consent to placing a Chinese national they don't control, investment would start flowing again ?

    1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

      Re: "Amazon’s decision should [not] be taken as a sign that foreign investment in China is waning"

      Indeed, hard to imagine Amazon's content offerings getting very far given all the competition. And a wide range of cheaper and better devices.

      1. OhForF' Silver badge

        A wide range of cheaper and better devices

        When i looked into buying an e-book reader couple of years ago i found kindle to be one of the best options available.

        While that works fine and it is easy to get recent books for it i am not a fan of Amazon so i am interested in better alterantives.

        Can you give me some examples of what devices you consider better (doesn't even have to be cheaper to catch my interest)?

        1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

          Re: A wide range of cheaper and better devices

          Sorry, I should have been more specific: my comments were specific to mainland China where Amazon is up against established incumbents and different devices (comics are big in east Asia).

          I personally like the Kobo readers, marketed in some countries under the Tolino label. The software contains nice attention to detail and is very flexible. I don't think much of the store but they work with whatever DRM most libraries are using. I always strip any DRM off books I buy so that I'm not tied to any particular provider or software and use Calibre to manage my library. I love my Aura One for the screen quality and form factor but SWMBO is very happy with my old Glo, that still gets software updates. I'm routinely tempted to get something even larger for technical documentation, you know when you like having two pages at once.

          I also recently bought a PocketBook for a friend who's been pretty ill and this has the advantage of a Dropbox client, which means I can easily give him books to read.

          Worth noting that most readers have awful PDF support. Sony is/was the exception because it licensed something from Adobe that "reflows" documents for different aspect ratios. I've not tried the PocketBook but PDFs on the Kobos are an exercise in frustration, even with third-party readers.

          1. OhForF' Silver badge

            Re: A wide range of cheaper and better devices

            Thank you for taking the time to answer.

            I'll have to look at the Kobo devices again, something with a bigger screen might be an improvement for some screnarios. For reading while commuting or traveling the small size of the kindle is actually good but when stationary it feels too small at times.

            I'm not really stripping the DRM for reading on the kindle but i do have a copy of the ebooks on my pc ready to be processed by that swiss army knife for ebooks (=Calibre) if there's a need to do that.

            I'll not be stripped of my complete library if i loose the device or acces to the amazon account or some Amazon shenanigans.

            1. LybsterRoy Silver badge

              Re: A wide range of cheaper and better devices

              When I first looked I wanted something with folders so I could organise my collection as I wanted. I bought Bookeen. I also went through the larger is better stage and bought their Ocean (8" screen) but found it to heavy. For PDFs or graphical formats I use either my laptop or a tablet.

            2. Charlie Clark Silver badge

              Re: A wide range of cheaper and better devices

              I think you've got to be prepared to have two devices if necessary. The 6" models can fit into a jacket pocket but, even with a small font, I find the pages "too small". The Aura won't fit into a jacket pocket but fits in pretty much everything else. I think the Kobo Nia would suit you fine, my Glo is now over ten years old and still going strong. Otherwise my mate is really happy with the PocketBook HD.

  3. steviebuk Silver badge

    All too slow

    Azure announced a few months back it had opened new Azure points in China ignoring its CCP issues. An knob Elon has invested in China with his car factory and claimed how they are leading the way with electric cars. Totally ignoring the fact they are also a massive coal miner and still burn it.

    1. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

      Re: All too slow

      -> CCP issues

      Do you mean the CCP which has raised hundreds of millions of Chinese people out of poverty? There's quite a few brain dead westerners who shriek like McCarthy about reds under the beds, all the while crapping over their own people.

      1. julian.smith
        Big Brother

        -> USA issues

        Is that the same USA where some 40% of people could not meet an unexpected expense of $1000?

        Is that the same USA where school shootings are a growth industry?

        1. steviebuk Silver badge

          Re: -> USA issues

          "What about er."

          Funny thing with the "what about ers" are they assume everyone commenting is from the US so their "whataboutism" is always related to the US :o) gives it away that you're another wumao.

          1. llaryllama

            Re: -> USA issues

            It's always fun listening to mainland Chinese people rant at me for ten minutes solid about how I was responsible for the opium wars because I look white and have a British English accent, until I point out I'm Taiwanese.

            1. steviebuk Silver badge

              Re: -> USA issues

              At which point they probably say "So you are part of China then" :)

              Its a shame as there are good Chinese people its just the CCP & Xi that are the dicks.

        2. llaryllama

          Re: -> USA issues

          This comment has absolutely nothing, zero, nada to do with any part of the above discussion. If you want to discuss the USA may I politely suggest finding a discussion about the USA?

      2. steviebuk Silver badge

        Re: All too slow

        Ah a 50cent army member, a wumao. A quick search will find you're talking bolloks. The CCP haven't lifted millions out of poverty. Its their propaganda making you think they have. Not to mention in this bullshit attempt, they removed old Chinese culture from streets where you could sit outside a cafe and relax, watching the world go buy so they could bulldoze the place and put up high rise.

        Just look up the amount of ghost cities in China its nuts. Their economy relies on their housing market which can't be seen to fail so apartment prices continue to rise. You can buy a flat in China, never live in it and then sell it on to the next sucker for a profit. Don't ever furnish it and try to sell it as you'll loose money, due to Chinese culture of not wanting other people's furniture. Costs more to get rid of it so they prefer to buy an empty flat.

        There are plenty of videos showing poor Chinese people lining a street begging, something the CCP don't want people to see. Because there is no benefit system in China.

        China would be a nice place without the CCP. Also don't forget Mao tried to eradicate the rich, past Chinese culture and even wanted to get rid of the language until Russia convinced him not to. Mao is also why there are a lack of birds in China.

        1. llaryllama

          Re: All too slow

          Taiwan shows you what China could be without the CCP. We pretty much kept all of the traditional Chinese culture that was destroyed by Mao in China and added liberal democracy into the mix.

          1. steviebuk Silver badge

            Re: All too slow

            Yep, especially with the chip factories. China doesn't, sadly, invent anything anymore just steals stuff.

      3. llaryllama

        Re: All too slow

        Actually I think you'll find that entry into the WTO is what brought millions of PR Chinese out of poverty, despite the best efforts of the CCP. For a supposedly communist country the PRC is horrifically capitalist with rife inequality and corruption. I have data to back this up, you show me yours and I'll show you mine.

  4. DoctorNine

    The Devil and the Deep Blue Sea

    "Nice distribution company you've got there. Shame if something were to happen to it..."

  5. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Yawn

    and will continue to innovate and invest,

    What this actually mean is that if workers in the West demand their pay to at very least keep up with the inflation and make them feel the effort they put in their education gives some worthwhile return, then Amazon may think of replacing them with cheap as chips Chinese employees that cannot complain, because if they do they likely get to sent to a labour camp.

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