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BT, Britain's largest telecom biz, has signed a five-year agreement with Amazon Web Services (AWS) to help it cloudify internal applications and speed-up digital transformation under the broader modernization program. The network provider said AWS will be tasked with updating BT's own applications to be cloud-first, modular …

  1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    "More buzz words than you can shake a stick at."

    Indeed. And those at the workface can only watch yet another lurch in direction.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Bye bye BT Cloud Compute?

      I guess it will be the death knell - experienced as an internal customer and a reseller to real customers - of the hateful beyond garbage that is BT Cloud Compute.

      Truly a steaming turd of unreliability. Thankfully we moved off it and took some internal BT customers and real customers to AWS long ago.

  2. Warm Braw

    Supercharge BT and drive its return to growth

    It's amazing how the people in charge of BT - for decades - completely misunderstand the nature of the business they run. It's a regulated utility that would continue to make a decent return for its shareholders if they weren't constantly extracting money from it in pursuit of fatally-flawed "growth" schemes.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: Supercharge BT and drive its return to growth

      To say nothing of the fact that they decided they didn't need to be in the mobile market. The regulated bit always irked them. That's why they made disastrous investments in things they didn't understand because they thought there were fat profits in unregulated ventures.

      1. NeilPost Silver badge

        Re: Supercharge BT and drive its return to growth

        Being fair it… it was analysts, deal grubbers and morons that twisted BT’s arm into disposing of Cellnet (now O2) many a moon just before the mobile market exploded in growth and … reversed that decision with the acquisition of EE.

        BT were also denied sticking fibre everywhere by Thatch wanting to open the market to US cable … which turned out really well.with the ultimate bankruptcy of NTL-Telewest and creation of Virgin Media out of that mess.

        BT Sport/TV - like Virgin’s push to compete with Sky on content with Virgin 1 etc - was always a half assed job. Ambition exceeded the pockets made available to fund sports rights deals and worry Sky Sports with a true competitor . BT Sport will ultimately be flogged - at the next cycle of growth/diversification followed by refocus on core activities - to Fox or ESPN Sports.

        1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

          Re: Supercharge BT and drive its return to growth

          There were two parts to the mobile venture. There was the network part, CellNet, and the customer facing part, BT Mobile, originally the merger of the phone, paging and voicemail services.

          It was already growing rapidly when they split it off - remember it was a share split, not a sale so BT got no cash for it. Any competent telecoms management should have seen mobile had to be part of their future and faced down the naysayers. To get back in required giving Deutsch Telekom 1/8th of the business, probably a bargain but something that should never have been necessary.

          As to cable, you're quite right, of course. It's something most critics forget when complaining about fibre - BT was compelled to make a very late start.

    2. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

      Re: Supercharge BT and drive its return to growth

      BT is still full of people who think like it's the old monopoly days. The Tories years ago were right to privatise it, but they did not go anywhere near enough. It was still a near monopoly for years, not through great service or execution of tasks, but just being there.

      1. NeilPost Silver badge

        Re: Supercharge BT and drive its return to growth

        Having worked for BT … it’s truly does not. BT Privatisation was almost 40 Years ago.

        It does have a large regulated business rump however operating within the constraints Ofcom Regulations, The Telecommunications Act law and Universal Service Obligations (no other competitor has) exert on it.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    AWS?

    Would have thought BT are right in the sweet spot for a decent sized OpenStack/OpenShift on-prem cloud rather than give tonnes of money to AWS. I mean it's not like they can't have OS compentancy as loads of modern comms kit already runs it.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: AWS?

      This is BT. Please don't assume that because it has competency in some levels that that implies competency in top management.

    2. VoiceOfTruth Silver badge

      Re: AWS?

      I would like to agree but there's a couple of points. OpenStack is so effing complicated that anyone using it and relying on it would need to hire a bunch of people to run it. It's not just a load of UNIX/Linux boxes. We looked at it years ago, and that's what we saw. I could not recommend using it as I would afraid of losing those staff, and we would be stuck. Anyone deploying OpenStack is in exactly the same boat.

      Somebody who is familiar with Solaris can look into problems with Linux (and vice versa). They may not be experts but they can at least get stuck in. The same cannot be said of OpenStack. Just look at the Wikipedia page - it has 38 components now, each with names which are mostly unrelated to their function. If you said to somebody who is not familiar with OpenStack "there seems to be a problem with Barbican", they would look at you with boggled eyes. Why couldn't somebody name Barbican to 'Locksmith' to at least hint at what it does?

      Meanwhile AWS is complex, but at least you can get started without too much difficulty.

      1. Korev Silver badge
        Alien

        Re: AWS?

        it has 38 components now, each with names which are mostly unrelated to their function

        ...

        Meanwhile AWS is complex, but at least you can get started without too much difficulty.

        Things like Route53, EC2 or S3 don't exactly describe what they do either

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: AWS?

      See BT Cloud Compute for this.

      Too complicated for them to make work reliably.

  4. devin3782

    £2.5 billion ($2.5 billion)

    Is there currently 1 dollar to the pound?

    1. David 132 Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: £2.5 billion ($2.5 billion)

      Yes, and about 10 of each to the Venezuelan Bolivar or Zimbabwean Dollar, given the current rates of inflation and currency slide.

  5. MJI Silver badge

    You would think BT could do it themselves.

    As one of the inventors of the electronic computer you think they would be able to do it themselves. Perhaps AWS works out cheaper.

    1. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge

      Re: You would think BT could do it themselves.

      Perhaps AWS works out cheaper.

      I'm sure the beancounters incorrectly think so. By the time they learn otherwise it will be too late. Again.

      1. Missing Semicolon Silver badge

        Re: You would think BT could do it themselves.

        "2bn savings" . For BT, or Amazon?

      2. David 132 Silver badge

        Re: You would think BT could do it themselves.

        Capex versus Opex, as always. Beancounters would rather see a recurring hit to the latter than a one-off to the former.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "AWS will be tasked with updating BT's own applications to be cloud-first, modular and reusable across its business."

    LOL

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      BT: "Hi AWS, here is your blank cheque"

      AWS: "Yes..."

      1. David 132 Silver badge

        AWS: “It’s not printed on wide enough paper”

  7. Claire Sweet

    Should read - Tax dodger awards contract to another tax dodger.

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