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Room rental biz Airbnb on Thursday said it will allow its employees to work from anywhere and compensation will remain flat or increase within countries. At other tech firms like Facebook, Microsoft, and Twitter, among others, pay has been cut for employees electing to work remotely. Airbnb co-founder and CEO Brian Chesky …

  1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

    So...

    Airbnb will let staff work from someone else's home?

  2. YetAnotherXyzzy

    Good for them, and shame on Facebook et al. The work I do provides a certain amount of added value to my employer and I expect to be compensated accordingly; no more and no less. Whether I choose to live where the cost of living is high or low has no relevance to that added value and should not be taken into account.

    Talking about work-from-anywhere positions, naturally.

    1. Throatwarbler Mangrove Silver badge
      Meh

      Conversely, part of the reason that Bay Area jobs pay so highly is that they must in order for staff to be able to live there. If you move to West Armpit, Nebraska, where a Bay Area salary would probably buy you the better part of a county, it's a little harder to justify the higher wage.

      That said, given wage stagnation in the US for the past several decades, I think this is a good move which will hopefully help distribute some wealth to other parts of the country.

      1. cyberdemon Silver badge
        Mushroom

        Where's Lex Luthor when we need him?

        It's time to sink California into the Pacific.

        1. Throatwarbler Mangrove Silver badge
          Alert

          Re: Where's Lex Luthor when we need him?

          EABOD, DIAF, GFY, etc.

        2. FuzzyTheBear

          Re: Where's Lex Luthor when we need him?

          Wasn't that Zorin in the " a view to a kill " James Bond movie ?

          1. sreynolds

            Re: Where's Lex Luthor when we need him?

            Naah that one presumed that silicon foundries were in the valley. Totally unrealistic plot, unlike Luthors more realistic plan to sink a part of the earth with some nukes.

      2. Warm Braw

        a good move which will hopefully help distribute some wealth to other parts of the country

        ...or to parts of another country.

        While it's disingenuous for companies with significant offshore/nearshore operations to demand their directly-employed staff congregate in offices, it's equally disingenuous to suggest that WFH will ultimately lead to some sort of nirvana for wage slaves. There's now sufficient economic incentive to make WFH the default and sufficient experience to demonstrate that it can be: the market will now take over and determine where those homes will be.

      3. IGotOut Silver badge

        "Conversely, part of the reason that Bay Area jobs pay so highly is that they must in order for staff to be able to live there"

        Conversely to your conversely, the corporation can downsize the offices, pay much lower energy costs, not employ so many ancillary workers (cleaners, maintenance etc), so vastly reducing their running cost base.

        As the main facilities manger once said to me about the London offices right in the square mile that they were soon leaving, he pointed at a waste paper basket and stated, "That bin costs a over thousand pounds a year"

        And that was 10 years ago.

        But then how can they have a willy waving contest who has the best organic soy lattes at the earth cafe, bean bag laden meet space.

      4. bigtimehustler

        The issue is, the company is still making the same amount of profit from my work wherever I do it. If they were fine with paying it in the bay area they should be fine paying it anywhere. If I leave, they may get a replacement from the bay area anyway.

        1. Mark 65

          Not so. The company was only "happy" because they felt they had little other choice but to pay high bay area salaries to attract the required talent in an era where that location was all the rafe. If it now turns out they don't then why would they? They've opened themselves up to talent from all around the country that is no longer faced with the prospect of having to move to that neighbourhood, nor desires the beanbag filled breakout utopia.

  3. fxkeh

    Pay Bay Area salaries everywhere or don't have any Bay Area employees

    That's the basic flaw with location neutral salaries - you either end up somewhat|significantly increasing your salary costs (for people who would have worked for less money), or excluding people who are already settled in an area with a very high cost of living.

    I suspect that after the initial hype the salaries will drift downwards, meaning new hires just won't be from expensive locations like the Bay Area. Or the salary bands will massively expand so that recruits from the Bay Area will be hired at the top end of the "single" salary band and other places lower down.

    1. Roland6 Silver badge

      Re: Pay Bay Area salaries everywhere or don't have any Bay Area employees

      >I suspect that after the initial hype the salaries will drift downwards

      With the reduced need to physically be in the Bay area, we can expect demand for Bay area property to drop and so whilst it may remain 'expensive' it shouldn't increase at the same rate as it has in the past. Which in turn will feed into the Bay area wage weighting.

      If we look at the effects of lockdown, where effectively earnt money was no longer spent in London but in the area where people lived, we can expect some degree of levelling-up; so actually paying location neutral salaries you are actually encouraging levelling up and so reduce the cost-of-living differences between locations.

  4. Howard Sway Silver badge

    What a great motivator

    "We are going to limit your salary by location so that you can only afford the same limited lifestyle wherever you are. Although the money we save will have the happy effect of increasing the personal wealth of the big bosses by several billion more".

  5. FuzzyTheBear
    FAIL

    Utterly stupid.

    Someone that works from home dosen't cost office square footage for the employer.

    With the price of real estate .. i'd have thought they'd be glad to offload rent agreements and sell buildings.

    Asking som4eone to accept less when they cost less is utterly stupid.

    Oh well

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