back to article JEDI contract might be no more, but case should live on, says Oracle: DoD only wants Amazon, Microsoft for new cloud deal

Oracle has asked the US Supreme court not to dismiss its case over the $10bn Joint Enterprise Defense Infrastructure (JEDI) contract, despite the US Department of Defense officially axing the $10bn procurement deal. "Cases do not become moot simply because a defendant issues a press release claiming to have ceased its …

  1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

    PTSD

    Having finally got over Vietnam, they spend 20 years in Afghanistan - and now you expect them to work with Oracle ?

  2. pinkmouse

    Sorry, but you've lost all editorial credibility. A relevant thumbnail pic? Really, El Reg, really?

    1. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge

      Followed this saga well, you have not.

  3. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    "Cases do not become moot simply because a defendant issues a press release claiming to have ceased its misconduct,"

    Nice example of prejudicial PR.

    Let's not forget that lawyers have children to feed although US litigation lawyers would probably feed them to alligators if the money was right.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      My clients shotgun-charlie, razors and Harry "Can't Remember His Nickname" Jones have announced that they haven't done anything since last month's Streatham bank job and consider the matter closed

  4. Anonymous Coward
    FAIL

    Big Red

    It's been ages since Big Red became Big Red Flag but these days they seem to survive on lockins and lawsuits.

    It is perfectly reasonable for DoD to say that, at this point, only Microsoft and Amazon have the technical capabilities to meet the requirements of the new procurement because all three companies filed statements regarding their technical capabilities for the old procurement.

    Courts can sanction attorneys for lawsuits that are frivolous or dilatory and this sounds like both. Turn Big Red over to the Red Queen so she can deal with their heads.

    1. ronkee

      Re: Big Red

      The old procurement has requirements 3-4 years old at this point, and it was controversial right from the start. A lot has changed and part of the justification for junking it was the fact that it's out of date.

      JEDI was a dumpster fire, they should have gone for a clean slate. Starting off by trying to do basically the same thing was always going to just end up with more of the same.

      It's procurement masochism.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Big Red

      Honestly I would find it hard to recommend anyone other than AWS or Azure for public cloud at the moment, and Oracle would be bottom of the list because of lockin problems I've seen with their dBaaS.

      1. Strahd Ivarius Silver badge
        Trollface

        Re: Big Red

        There is always OVHCloud to consider, as a compensation for the subs contract

        1. Alpharious

          Re: Big Red

          DOD procurement is not just based on merit and cost. there are other issues as well, such as who has the most veterans working for them. I suspect that is why oracle is having these issues, as they do not have the dedicated veteran recruitment that amazon and Microsoft have. This also explains the insidious nature of Amazon, because those vets who work in the distribution centers, count toward government contracts. AWS will always have an advantage over the other groups because of this.

          We knock on the soviet union for having stupid policies, but when we look at the red tape in the US, it's far, far, far worse.

  5. FuzzyTheBear
    FAIL

    Ellison sounds like Trump .. being a sore looser they blame everyone else but themselves and when loosing sue sue sue .. tiring .

    1. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge

      Poor Sue, gets dragged into everything. Oracle should leave her alone.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    JEDI contract might be no more, but Oracle should live on, says Oracle

    There fixed if for you

  7. cynicalphb

    If they hired a few less lawyers and a few more techies they might have a hope... but probably not

    Is there anything left of Oracle but Sales and Legal?

    it is a few years ago now, but after battling our way through a 12 page PowerPoint telling us how to access support (I kid you not), our Account Manager, our Regional Sales Manager, our Customer Sucess Manager, a broken webform and the IVR from hell we eventually got through to some poor soul in India who told us that our bug was actually a feature, and that all he could do was put a change request into some backlog. His tone of voice told us we might as well try and pull a starfigher out of a swamp with the force.

    Yoda might be able to save Oracle. I am not sure anyone else can. Or really wants to.

  8. Ashto5

    God Given Rights

    Why do these companies believe they have a god given right to be awarded these contracts.

    The truth is they are all in it for the money not the security of the nation just the plain old dollar bill.

    Watch whoever wins it outsource it to another company or country.

    The military should nit need to BUY these services these companies should be falling over themselves to offer it for their nations security.

    Do you think for 1 second that Chinese companies are suing the CCP?

    USA heading to 3rd world status at a rate of knots, end of empire, here in the UK we have been in this path for 100 years.

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