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The US Air Force's first ever chief software officer has quit the job after branding it "probably the most challenging and infuriating of my entire career" in a remarkably candid blog post. Nicolas Chaillan's impressively blunt leaving note, which he posted to his LinkedIn profile, castigated USAF senior hierarchy for failing …

  1. Will Godfrey Silver badge
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    Do I hear a deafening chorus?

    Has anyone here not been in similar a situation?

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    2. EricB123 Bronze badge

      Re: Do I hear a deafening chorus?

      I was approached by the newly hired head of software documentation who asked me "what is meant by the word syntax"?

      1. chuBb.
        Devil

        Re: Do I hear a deafening chorus?

        The BOFH in me would tell them that its a means of charging or being charged for each sucessful SYN/ACK sent by TCP....

        I have prior form in getting a technical director (technically he directed any responsibility or accountability for his ill informed decisions away from himself, for example he hired a C and a Java developer to fill two c# roles, because its all the same and uses { }, signed off on an outsourced development project because THEY would project manage it, i left 9 years ago and that 18month project still isnt testable...) to believe that ARSE*, BUM** and VDWARTS*** were widely used acronyms, and proceeded to wax lyrical about his cutting edge arse and bum stack with vdwarts to the bemused heads of IT of a well known British high street bank when he wanted to bluff his way through a risk assessment/DR meeting

        *Automated Recovery System Environment

        **BackUp Machine

        ***Virtual Desktop With Advanced RealTime Snapshots

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      2. bpfh
        Joke

        Re: Do I hear a deafening chorus?

        We used brass tacks but they were not eco friendly, so we use the synthetic vegan ones, syntacks.

        1. bpfh

          Re: Do I hear a deafening chorus?

          if you can sell them that, then you need to approve expensing a monthly purchase of Etherium to power the Ethernet core switches.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    So true...

    Sadly, I have encountered this issue SO MANY times (in the UK)...putting unsuitable (but highly thought of), people into jobs, where they have control over projects that they know absolutely nothing about....even if previously, they had done well in their specific original role (for which they might have been trained).

    But that doesn't help, if they switch roles into a different sector, where they have no experience. (I think this is also known as "jobs for the boys" or "cronyism").

    And it doesn't just happen in the public sector...it happens in the private sector too - as I know 2 experienced people who were overlooked for roles in companies, as the boss wanted to "reward" a "personal friend" in one job and a "relative" in another. (And both of them screwed up big-time...but kept their jobs :-( )

    1. Paul Herber Silver badge

      Re: So true...

      It's one thing to know all about DevSecOps. But what if your speciality is SecDevOps or DevOpsSec. It's all OpsSecDevSec to me.

    2. Duncan Macdonald

      Re: So true...

      I was once in the opposite position - along with my normal technical job I was put in charge of the group of contractors running an ICL mainframe. This mainframe was being wound down as its workload was transferred to a group of Unix systems.

      As my knowledge of the mainframe and its software was minimal and had no chance of getting up to a competent level in any reasonable time, I took the decision to leave all the technical matters to the contractors and told them to see me if they needed administrative cover beyond their own authority level. This arrangement worked well until the company finally disposed of the ICL mainframe. (If I remember correctly it took me about 10 minutes a month to approve timesheets and that was about it.)

      1. bombastic bob Silver badge
        Happy

        Re: So true...

        "delegation" is the best management style. Its only weakness is when you lack competent people to delegate to. The manager who works the least is probably doing the best job.

        1. go.EJ

          Re: So true...

          Nope. “Delegation” is a popular buzz word and that’s exactly what this article is about. If a manager is not the hardest worker then that manager does not understand their job and that manager better have a superior knowledge of the subject at hand.

          1. martinusher Silver badge

            Re: So true...

            Managing is an organizing and administrative role -- essentially it's secretarial. Project management shares the 'management' tittle but is a completely different type of role, one that either has deep knowledge of the work or knows how to delegate to and communicate with those that do. Management problems stem from people misunderstanding the roles, they think that being the 'boss' automatically qualifies them as an expert in anything and everything (and what technical input they do receive is invariably from people more interested in their advancement than the success of the project who know how to play him/her like a fiddle.)

            So, yes, a smoothly working group should have the manager' doing minimal work, its just a bit of admin and looking for problems and fixing them before they're a crisis (having reliable team members that know what they're doing moves this along). But in real technical life a manager is also organizing and monitoring (and probably working on) one or more projects.

        2. Robert 22

          Re: So true...

          There is also the situation where the manager lacks the ability to assess competence and delegates to his buddies and/or those who happen to be good at promoting themselves.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: So true...

      Yes, compounded by the fact that said officer has to get something into his OJAR (yearly report) and just running something competently doesn’t cut it, so cue the ‘identification of things that are wrong and must be changed’ and then you run straight into project variation and increased costs… I could be wrong of course but MoD procurement history would suggest not…

    4. Arthur the cat Silver badge

      Re: So true...

      putting unsuitable (but highly thought of), people into jobs, where they have control over projects that they know absolutely nothing about....even if previously, they had done well in their specific original role

      Published as the Peter Principle back in 1969. People are promoted to their level of incompetence.

      1. dbayly

        Re: So true...

        People are promoted BEYOND their level of incompetence.

        fixed that for you

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: So true...

          People are promoted BEYOND their level of competence.

          fixed that for you

          1. MrG

            Re: So true...

            I... can't tell whether you're meta-joking or just didn't get it...

            1. J. Cook Silver badge

              Re: So true...

              A little from column A, and a little from column B.

              For example: I would make a terrible manager, mainly because my personality is not suited to managing people. I can manage machines just fine, and my current position is about where I've been wanting for a while now.

      2. mcswell

        Re: So true...

        I think the author of the original article would differ. This is not promotion to a *level* of incompetence, but rather putting someone in charge of work in a *field* they don't know. If they're put back in charge of a similar size/budget project in their field, they'd probably do fine.

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: So true...

        Dido Harding...

        1. Irongut

          Re: So true...

          You actually need to have a field of competance to do well somewhere. Unfortunately some people have no competance at anything.

    5. NoneSuch Silver badge
      FAIL

      A Solid 40%...

      ...of classified material is covering up government and military f*ck ups.

      Civilian deaths, mismanaged projects and just plain incompetence.

      Gallipoli was the first battle to be covered by professional journalists. Otherwise, it would have been classified and forgotten.

      1. wegie

        Re: A Solid 40%...

        The ghost of William Howard Russell would like a word or two...

      2. trindflo Bronze badge

        Re: A Solid 40%...

        I'd like to offer a different example.

        My understanding of the history is that the mastermind of Gallipoli, Churchill, was so demoralized that he resigned his commission to join the infantry and pay the price for his mistake. It doesn't seem like Churchill, the Australians, or the Turks would have ever forgotten. On the other hand, the war of 1812 was white-washed in the US for something like 150 years.

        1. Diogenes

          Re: A Solid 40%...

          the Australians, or the Turks

          Little known fun fact : more French were killed in the Dardenelles Campaign than Aussies

    6. Potemkine! Silver badge

      Re: So true...

      I don't think it's a matter of public or private organization. It's a matter of size: the bigger the organization, the more diluted are responsibilities. It's much easier to hide oneself in the crowd.

    7. JudasPriest
      Big Brother

      Re: So true...

      My father used to say, I do not hire experts to tell them what to do. I hire experts for them to tell me what to do.

      But have since run into any number of people who hire experts to tell them what to do, including a former boss who hired me as an expert contractor to write a report on the future of certain technology and then three weeks later said 'OK I think I now know enough to tell if you were right or wrong... of course i was still hired for those 3 weeks doing nothing while he decided whether I was indeed an expert in the field he had hired me in...

    8. hoola Silver badge

      Re: So true...

      It is also the way we appear to keep employing or promoting people who are dangerously incompetent ever higher up the management chain.

      This becomes a self-perpetuating fiasco as the incompetent people then recruit more like themselves who can talk all the talk, answer the stupid questions asked by stupid people and so are deemed to be a great fit for the job.

      Eventually it will implode but the damage will be immense and the one thing there people are good at is covering their arses. Management failings will become technical failings of the teams struggling to implement management incompetence.....

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: So true...

        "It is also the way we appear to keep employing or promoting people who are dangerously incompetent ever higher up the management chain."

        ... all the way to Prime Minister.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: So true...

          or president, as it were.

  3. Cybersaber

    Good boss > skilled or informed boss any day because a good boss knows when to lead and when to defer to the expertise of their subordinates. Skilled bad boss is worse.

    I mean that's not the only two choices, I was just saying that a good, but clueless boss isn't an automatic fail. There are worse combinations.

    This article comes off as sour grapes to me, regardless of whether it has merit because it basically reads "I know best, and they didn't listen to me, so of course their decisions must be faulty, and I'm going to shame them because I'm mad."

    1. doublelayer Silver badge

      I'm not sure about that. Sour grapes to me would be if he was fired and sent this, but he was unhappy enough to quit of his own accord. That implies that, whatever the reasons, it's not something done to fire back at the person who took his job.

      As for a good boss or an informed one, a bad informed boss is certainly a problem, but in many ways an uninformed good boss is too. A good boss who doesn't know how things work might, in good faith, make promises about things that can't get done. They might pass every decision down to someone who knows what they're doing and harm organization. While a somewhat informed good boss will definitely beat a bad one, good management requires some basic level of knowledge of what the people below you are doing. Someone who lacks that knowledge is likely to be ineffective or problematic without needing managerial incompetence as well.

      1. LybsterRoy Silver badge

        The more of the article I read the more I read as sour grapes, or "I'm not allowed to do what I want so I'll throw my toys out of the pram"

        When people start quoting buzzwords and stating that they can turn a massive organisation round in 6 months its time to run for cover.

        1. DevOpsTimothyC

          I was hired to do X because I had enough knowledge / skill to do X, but I was prevented by (corporate) policies generally causes alot of sour grapes.

          When you've got organizations this sort of size that has serious systemic issues often the only way to make the organization better is to throw the toys out of the pram. When you're too far down the food chain it's either don't care and walk away or make this sort of noise.

    2. Adrian 4

      + for the good boss > skilled boos

      - for the sour grapes

    3. EBG

      also my experince

      I've done projects under good blokes who were on the MoD 2-year rolling postings. Provided, as you say, they defer to technical expertise, it can work well.

      1. LybsterRoy Silver badge

        Re: also my experince

        <<Provided, as you say, they defer to technical expertise>>

        and knows at least enough to know when not to defer.

  4. Eclectic Man Silver badge

    Water-agile-fail

    Seems like he speaks for most people involved in large government IT procurements. The bosses seem to think that actually understanding the nature of IT and procurement is almost a disqualification for the job.

    To be fair, how would you like it if your underlings understood their jobs better than you did and you had to let them get on with it? I mean they might actually get stuff done for which you could not claim the credit.

    1. Will Godfrey Silver badge

      Re: Water-agile-fail

      My last boss (before retiring) was quite comfortable knowing that most of the engineers knew more about their specialty, and would let us do whatever was needed to get the job done. He trusted us, and we never let him down.

      I'll never forget one meeting with a company were were doing a major refit for, where our boss took their boss to one side and let us techies thrash it out between us - one of the smoothest installs we ever did.

      1. bazza Silver badge

        Re: Water-agile-fail

        Yep. It's the best way to proceed. And it's amazing how much time you can save. I've been involved in all sorts of projects, and the best ICD I've ever created was a half hour phone call with their engineer describing what was needed. Six months later integration took another half an hour. We avoided about 4 weeks of documentation.

        1. NeilPost Silver badge

          Re: Water-agile-fail

          No documentation.

          I’m surprised it passed the delivery gateway.

          Lord help anyone who needs to support it or figure out what any of you have done in the future…. Esp.. After you have all fucked off to something else.

          1. Caoilte

            Re: Water-agile-fail

            Depends on the documentation. Lots of companies/government departments require you to create reams of documentation for each release that is completely useless as soon as it is written but which fulfills a box ticking exercise.

            I think it comes from a time when releases required hundreds of manual interventions. If a system is properly architected and the release process is properly automated then there is very little which can go wrong and a lot less which needs to be documented.

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    3. A.P. Veening Silver badge

      Re: Water-agile-fail

      To be fair, how would you like it if your underlings understood their jobs better than you did and you had to let them get on with it?

      The real fun starts when the underlings understand their boss's job better than the boss himself.

      1. bombastic bob Silver badge
        Devil

        Re: Water-agile-fail

        when the underlings understand their boss's job better than the boss himself.

        "How to manage a boss" is a necessary skill for any decent IT contractor.

      2. mcswell

        Re: Water-agile-fail

        In a multi-faceted project, it's unlikely that the boss will know every area. I've been in charge of projects like that, where I knew one area of the project but not all. I'd like to think I managed them well, but of course you'd have to ask the people who worked for me.

    4. Pascal Monett Silver badge
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      To be fair ?

      To be fair ?

      Let's make one thing clear : bosses are not techies.

      There may be a one-in-a-million people who rise to management after having lived in helldesk, but this is more than an exception ; it's a miracle.

      The rest are all manglement material who have flunked Board-level entry and haven't the faintest idea of what an IP address is, much less how to manage a firewall.

      Let me give an example. I was once part of a vast administrative entity with an IT department and, at its head, an individual who's grasp of IT was the following : one day, I and my colleague were summoned to the official's office to discuss access to the Dev server and how things were not going to standard.

      My colleague had access to the Dev server. I had been refused access to the Dev server.

      How is it that the fucking head of IT didn't realize that before I put it on the table ?

      And you want me to believe that that fucking idiot would be entitled to not appreciate that I know that he should fucking know who he granted access to what ?

      Head of IT. You should definitely know who has access to what. That's not rocket science. That is your responsibility.

      1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

        Re: To be fair ?

        There may be a one-in-a-million people who rise to management after having lived in helldesk, but this is more than an exception ; it's a miracle.

        For helldesk you are completely correct, but I know of enough programmers and analysts that have risen to management and higher. The advantage is that they know IT, the disadvantage is that you can't baffle them with the end product of an uncastrated, adult, male head of cattle (aka rose fertilizer).

        1. Eclectic Man Silver badge

          Re: To be fair ?

          In many professional organisations, such as accountancy firms, legal practices, and especially financial organisations such s stockbrokers partnerships, one of the partners will have authority over each of the 'housekeeping' functions, like building maintenance, IT, catering etc. They will not have personal expertise in that area (apart from actually using the results), but they will have the authority to make decisions and fire people (underlings and non-partners) under them who do not perform.

          Strangely there is some confusion over 'having authority' and 'having control'. The former indicates that you can make decisions, the latter indicates that you have some actual understanding of the results of the decisions you make in the real world. If only I could think of an example in real life at the moment to sow you what I mean ...

          Also, apologies, I missed off the \begin{sarcasm} and \end{sarcasm} from my final paragraph. Sorry.

        2. DevOpsTimothyC

          Re: To be fair ?

          The advantage is that they know their prior area of IT, the disadvantage is that they will often only listen to people who have a similar background but are otherwise clueless as someone who has no IT background.

          ---

          FTFY

          1. The First Dave

            Re: To be fair ?

            The advantage is they know some relevant IT.

            The disadvantages are:

            They probably aren't up to date any more (who is?)

            They probably think they know more than they actually do (don't we all?)

            They probably haven't had any management training ('nuff said)

      2. tip pc Silver badge

        Re: To be fair ?

        “Head of IT. You should definitely know who has access to what. That's not rocket science. That is your responsibility.”

        I’d truly hope that the head of IT wouldn’t know intricate config details like that, they should have many more other things to be worrying about.

        Perhaps they should know that members of the same discipline should have the same access, but I’d not expect them to know individual status.

        That’s like saying the ad leader should know what groups every individual is allocated in. Would be impressive when you have 100k staff and 250k domain groups.

      3. LybsterRoy Silver badge

        Re: To be fair ?

        <<Head of IT. You should definitely know who has access to what.>>

        On an individual level - NOPE - Head of IT should know what the policy is and who administers it, possibly check up every so often to see if the job is being done correctly but not micro-manage.

      4. James Hughes 1

        Re: To be fair ?

        All of my bosses are techies, including the CEO, who is exceptionally competent.

      5. BaySlanger

        Re: To be fair ?

        With all due respect, a boss doesn't need to have a background in help desk ops. Pardon, how does resolving low tier tech issues help someone develop their SQL skills? Bringing someone a dongle is not a required first step to becoming a full-stack dev.

        Why would this manager automatically assume that your access mimics your team member? Why would he care? If you don't have the access necessary for you to do your job, that's on you. You get in touch with someone and you get the correct access. If you are unable to get anyone to grant you that access, then you go to senior leadership, but not until you've exhausted all other options.

        And I'm really not trying to beat you up at all come up but we're talking about development operations here, not help desk. Don't worry, I'm not talking shit about help desk. I'm just saying it's irrelevant to this stoyy.

        1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

          Okay, I'll accept your comment.

          Now, if I tell you that it is that very same IT manager who refused me access to the dev server, what does it become ?

    5. The Basis of everything is...

      Re: Water-agile-fail

      I really hope my underlings know their jobs better than I do - it's why I have underlings (and I hasten to add that anyone who calls people underlings around me in anything other than playful respect is getting a bollocking rapid formal coaching session.

      It has been a long time since I have been direct hands-on. I freely admit that some stuff I used to do I have forgotten, a lot has changed and I have no intention of doing a Simon (you know who you are) on a go-live. A big part of my role now is to shape and develop the team so they can not only get on without me, but they are eventually ready to step into my shoes and run a show.

      But it's still nice to casually lean over the shoulder of some kid who's been sweating a problem for hours, scroll up a couple of screens and point out that one small thing they've missed.

  5. fidodogbreath

    This just in

    "Large bureaucracy is slow, risk-averse, and prioritizes ass-covering over organizational goals."

    1. Mark 85

      Re: This just in

      I'm not so sure of that. It this case it's more like the normal military operational mode. They may have new toys but the mindset of senior officers is almost always "well the last war we fought we did it this way". I heard that one more than few times when I was in Marines in Vietnam.

      When I worked in the defense industry after my 4 years in the military

      , there was common phrase that we heard from the high ups..."What? We've never done that before!". Followed my much grumbling, refusal to think outside of their little box of experience.

      Needless to say, I didn't stay working in defense very long.

      Additional note: It was common to say the Marines operated under the rule of "200 years of tradition unhampered by progress". I think that actually applies (change number years as needed) to all branches of the military.

      1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

        Re: This just in

        "well the last war we fought we did it this way"

        That is already questionable if they won that war, but when was the last war they did win?

        1. Mark 85

          Re: This just in

          Declared war.... WWII. Everything since then has a "police action" or something not requiring a declaration. Once a declaration is issued, suddenly treaties of mutual support come into play.

          1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

            Re: This just in

            Last time a treaty came into play was a couple of hours after the first plane flew into the WTC.

          2. The First Dave

            Re: This just in

            Downvoted for suggesting that the septics won WWII, rather than the Russians

      2. mcswell

        Re: This just in

        There was a book with a title like that: "The Seven Last Words of the Church: `We've never done it that way before.'" (The audience was church leaders and board members.)

      3. fidodogbreath

        Re: This just in

        Sounds the like we're actually saying the same thing.

        The "normal military mode" you describe is resistant to (or at least, suspicious of change) change. Fear of change is almost always because change is risky. That risk might be organizational (e.g., "we might lose a war if we fight it using unproven methods") or personal (e.g., "I know how to fight the old way, but what if I can't learn this new way?").

        How do you fight change without looking like an obstructionist or dinosaur? In most cases, you study it to death. "I'm open to the idea, but we really need to examine how this will affect X, Y, Z etc." Which takes time, which is one reason that bureaucracies are slow.

        Eventually, someone has to sign off on a project for it to go forward. For whoever does that, the last thing they see will be a bus undercarriage if said project goes badly. Hence the need to have a committee to "get buy-in from all the stakeholders," which (a) further slows down the process, and (b) provides at least partial ass cover in the event of failure.

  6. Cybersaber

    Also, this comment here makes me think he doesn't really understand balancing security with other operational needs "...potentially preventing capabilities to be made available when needed whenever world events demand, many times overnight."

    Security NEVER made anything more performant, available, or reliable. It can at best have no impact, but usually involves a compromise. It makes me think maybe he's the one in the wrong. The military _does_ get security, believe you me. If they were prioritizing something else, despite knowing how critical security is, maybe they're not the ones that are blind?

    Or maybe it's one of the 'Agile is the messaiah' types that worship it as the savior of software development, and anyone who says there's a messy corner case (which is common in enterprises that deal with life and death) is a benighted heathen who must be made to see the light.

    You don't deliver 3/4ths of a rifle and get to the trigger in the next sprint. Or accept that there will be bugs and maybe 1/1000 rounds will explode in the barrel and that's okay, because they can lodge a Bugzilla ticket if they live and we'll write a user story about it. Agile concepts help nearly every process, but not every process can go full Scrum or some type of crystal.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      One of the characteristics of the military has been that it is liable to being physically attacked as it does its job. It needs to be able to defend itself.

      Now it's liable to be electronically attacked as well. IT security is a significant part of the defence it needs.

    2. Andy Miller

      "Security NEVER made anything more performant, available, or reliable." Really?

      If you can stop those crypto-currency miners running on your network edge boxes, don't you get a performance boost?

      If you can stop ransomware slingers encrypting your data, doesn't your platform become more available?

      If you can filter out DDoS traffic from real traffic, don't you get more reliability?

      1. bombastic bob Silver badge
        Thumb Up

        keep going, you're overflowing with common sense

        1. LybsterRoy Silver badge

          I upvoted you on the basis you just forgot the sarcasm tag

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        “If you can stop those crypto-currency miners running on your network edge boxes, don't you get a performance boost?”

        No, if you’ve got crypto miners then you’ve lost performance, you restore performance once they’ve gone, you don’t increase performance over and above what you originally had.

        “If you can stop ransomware slingers encrypting your data, doesn't your platform become more available?”

        Again no, how is it any more available because you think you’ve stopped something? availability is the ability to keep using something in the event of a problem.

        “If you can filter out DDoS traffic from real traffic, don't you get more reliability?”

        How is it more reliable? Ddos is typically countered by having enough bandwidth available to soak up and drop the unwanted connections, typically by using services of a 3rd party mitigation service.

      3. Rasputin

        Beast Mode!!!

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "Security NEVER made anything more performant, available, or reliable"

      I think in the specific case of the military it has many times done exactly that.

      Poor security very often leading to things being in pieces, on fire, and littered with the bodies of your troops.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Seems to me this guy has more than made his bones in the industry - someone you listen to whether you agree with everything he says or not, because he's been right more than he has been wrong.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The Pillorying of Good Men.

    https://enterpriseirregulars.com/69091/pillorying-marklogic-selling-disruptive-technology-government-hard-risky/

    Sadly, this isn't new. Do not suffer fools quietly.

  9. Denarius

    never understood attitude

    heard it many times and never saw it succeed. A good manager can manage anything. Nope. IMHO, based on been there, done that, a good manger may not understand technical intricate details, but does understand the field being worked in. A great manager may see their job as running interference for their staff to stop other manglement from bothering the crew doing the actual work. Had one those and the mutiskilled techs did wonders in problem resolution. Real issues were raised, timewasting was killed before it got in door. This person was an ex-tech who moved in management. I think Ben Richie in book "SkunkWorks" nailed it relating the comment made by an uniformed clerk on the inital build meeting with USAAF for what became the F117. Clerk did not care if it never worked, just wanted his paperwork.

  10. Ken G Silver badge

    officers

    The clever and lazy you make Chief of Staff, because he will not try to do everybody else’s work, and will always have time to think. The clever and industrious you make his deputy. The stupid and lazy you put into a line battalion, and kick him into doing a job of work. The stupid and industrious you must get rid of at once, because he is a national danger.

  11. Tim99 Silver badge
    Devil

    Alas,

    Someone who didn't understand what the actual job spec really was - Support the existing status quo, and facilitate the distribution of large amounts of tax payers' monies to the organizations's "political" mates...

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Putting mid-level lackies into significant positions of power

    The Civil Service does it regularly. Then fails to recognise when they have done it and ignores the failures of these people.

    The Peter Principal at play

    1. tfewster
      Facepalm

      Re: Putting mid-level lackies into significant positions of power

      At least civil servants get some time in post to learn. Cabinet ministers are switched around at the drop of a hat and make instant policy changes according to the political will of the Prime Minister.

      1. Eclectic Man Silver badge

        Re: Putting mid-level lackies into significant positions of power

        That is one of the major points made in the excellent (but scary) book "The Blunders of our Governments" by Anthony King and Ivor Crewe (ISBN 978-1-78074-405-6) about failures by UK governments.* Comparing the competence of ministers who move jobs frequently in the UK to ministers who are in post for several years in some European countries (such as Germany).

        One comes to the conclusion that, worryingly, no-one is actually running the country, no-one has a general plan, and pretty much everything is done for political expediency rather than long term benefit (because there is always the chance that the next government will get the credit for your hard work).

        *Both Conservative and Labour governments are considered, although everything is, of necessity, in hindsight, so there is little consideration of the competing events and decisions calling on ministers' attention.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Ahhh.

    The memories of finding out my IT manager got the job 'because he once set up a spreadsheet'. Before that, he was a security guard in the same company!

    Fun times....

    1. BaySlanger

      Hey, you're forgetting about the pros. That ad hoc request for a report that you can easily develop in 15 mins - well, you might just have to let your dumb boss know that it's a two-week project but for him, you can get it done in a week. ;)

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        There were no pros.

        When he hired me, I took the job because the job requirements spanned a good page and a half and looked like it would give me great experience. The job was working with mainframes at the time. I ended up splitting and delivering reports.

        When I questioned him about it, his reply was "well, I didn't know what the job would cover so I made most of it up".

        That experience taught me to ask a few more questions in subsequent interviews!

  14. Mike 137 Silver badge

    "I told my leadership that I could have fixed Enterprise IT in 6 months if empowered," he wrote.

    This seems very common, and not just in the military.

    I remember one assignment where I was supposedly in complete charge of information governance, but I had no budget, no recognised authority (even for commissioning) and there were three other people on the staff who thought they could make governance decisions independently and did. When I found I was being left uninvolved in - indeed uninformed about - major business changes affecting information governance I resigned.

    My guess is that either they just wanted someone in a hot seat who could be fired when the inevitable accident happened, or, more likely, they were so darned disorganised that the executive hadn't a clue what was going on and multiple minions had taken advantage of this to build themselves little empires.

    1. SecretSonOfHG

      Re: "I told my leadership that I could have fixed Enterprise IT in 6 months if empowered," he wrote.

      Ha, those "I could fix this in 6 months if empowered" usually denote an inmense lack of awareness of the environment. In complex environments with multitude of legacy systems 6 months is the time you need to just know what are the impacts of your changes

  15. Ashto5

    Well Done

    At least this person had the cahoonas to tell it straight, of course it will fall on deaf ears as no manager can ever be wrong.

    Worked with a guy in the UK NHS who quit, he was asked to give an exit interview, it went along these lines.

    Speaking to the manager

    “It is obvious you have read a book on managing IT written by Steve Jobs, you are ill equipped to run an IT dept and your man management is not even at the basic level.

    I have spent the last 3 weeks designing various UI and each time you say it is not good enough, I then presented you with the first one again and you said why could you not have done that in the first place.

    You should go back to the accounts department where you came from, making an excel spreadsheet is not IT.”

    The colleague told us this over farewell drinks.

    Monday morning the manager spoke to staff explaining that out friend had left due to ill health.

    The moral of the story is make sure your bosses boss is in the room when you throw the grenade.

    .

    1. Throatwarbler Mangrove Silver badge
      Headmaster

      Re: Well Done

      "cahoonas"

      cajones

      1. bombastic bob Silver badge
        Trollface

        Re: Well Done

        There's a city called "El Cajon" just east of San Diego, CA

        (a box or drawer, or also a peruvian drum)

    2. A.P. Veening Silver badge

      Re: Well Done

      The moral of the story is make sure your bosses boss is in the room when you throw the grenade.

      A friend of mine (not in IT) used the nucleair option. As her final act before logging off and leaving the building for the last time she sent a carefully prepared farewell email to the entire company with all C-levels by name in the To: field. From a colleague, who lasted two weeks longer, she later learned that all managers in line above her for at least three levels were demoted for gross incompetence. A couple of months later the whole department was moved to another country.

      1. Throatwarbler Mangrove Silver badge
        Joke

        Re: Well Done

        "nucleair"

        Nucular

        1. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge
          Mushroom

          Re: Well Done

          Nuculer

  16. Binraider Silver badge

    Physics, engineering, tactics. Sure, ask an officer. Infosec? Ask a professional infosec type. Last I checked that largely isn't the same skill set.

    But hey ho, institutions will continue to fail themselves by pushing rank over ability.

    Nothing new there, then.

  17. 4 wheeler jim

    Common sense appears to be severely lacking when selecting I t professionals !

  18. Clausewitz 4.0
    Devil

    Emboldened with Discipline

    borderline criminal emboldened with discipline, quite useful combination in some areas.

  19. Anonymous Coward
    Windows

    Two years

    All military postings in the UK at least are about two years long (give or take and with some exceptions.)

    That's why my childhood involved getting a new friendship group and school every 18 months to two years. Quite often in a different country to the previous one. Loved it!

    If a scandal in the 1980's created two year postings then how the hell did that decide my Dad's postings in the 1970s?

    I can recall moving to Paderborn around 1977 and moving on to the delights of Andover in 1979. Prior to that I was a bit young to remember but Manchester in 1976/7 (UMIST for Dad) and Soltau with 7th/11th Armoured (Red Rats and Axe head). Yes, we called them Red Rats because the jerboa logo was always red or at least a dodgy pinkish colour as paint or shit quality T shirts faded - Desert Rats is cooler and will always be the official moniker and it was probably the first one.

    Postings have always been about that length for probably the reason stated but the actual event(s) that caused it would have been in the 18th or 19th century.

    1. Peter2 Silver badge

      Re: Two years

      A scandal in the 1980's just meant that they assigned a military officer to procurement for a tour of duty.

  20. Stevie

    Bah!

    What concerns me is that the implication here is that crucial security measures are not being taken on *military* hardware that almost certainly *will* be connected to the internet because ... well ... I've never understood why people connect the stuff they do to the internet.

    All your lightbulb are belong to Chechnyan baddies - inconvenient.

    All your aircraft carrier systems are belong to Chechnyan baddies - quite worrying.

  21. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    DevSecOps & Agile

    That's his problem right there - he's using meaningless management bullshit bingo

  22. tiggity Silver badge

    DevSecOps

    DevSecOps: Only works if the devs are given sufficient training to be aware of all the appropriate security aspects to deal with in development, and as there are always new security issues to be aware of, new training regularly needed.

    So DevSecOps is a nice idea, but doomed to fail as always running just to stay in the same spot, best a dev can do is follow a mandated set of good practices (good practices regularly updated and reasons why part of traing), but have to be aware its not a "cure all".

  23. eAbyss

    This goes beyond IT

    My Mom had similar issues working as an RN for the Navy. Every two years the hospital would change commanders. Each time the commander would come in with a new vision of how things should be run and created chaos. By the end of the two years they'd get almost everything back to what worked at which point someone else would come in and screw everything up all over again. Two steps forward, two steps back, it's surprising that the military functions at all.

    1. js.lanshark

      Re: This goes beyond IT

      That's because no one gets medals and promotions for picking up where the last person left off and continuing the march as planned, even if it results in success.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: This goes beyond IT

      eAbyss,

      Not just the Navy, but also schools follow this process.

      The same mess of re-organising how everything works and just as you are reaching some level of stability and control, the next 'Great idea' is issued from on high.

      Roughly, schools cycle through the same ideas, arranged in different ways and renamed at random.

      Approximately, 3-5 years before the same ideas are 'rediscovered' and reimplemented under a new guise.

      Nothing is learnt as the senior politicians who drive the changes are moved from job to job or the party in power changes so change is needed to show the previous govt was 'wrong'.

      Sound familiar in any way !!!???

    3. Man inna barrel

      Re: This goes beyond IT

      > By the end of the two years they'd get almost everything back to what worked at which point someone else would come in and screw everything up all over again.

      Isn't that how most management works? Useful work gets done despite management, not because of it. Management's job is to go to all the meetings, talk the blah, take the glory, and shirk the responsibilities, while production actually do stuff that makes money.

      If only the managers would stop interfering, productivity would increase dramatically. I admit this does depend on having a workforce that has not been demoralised to the point of militancy.

  24. Robert 22

    The situation in Canada is similar

    The combination of generalist project managers and limited duration assignments is a particularly bad one. There is a big incentive to manage for short term goals. A stream of optimistic progress reports convinces the higher ups that everything is going great while problems are papered over. With a little luck, a promotion follows before reality sets in and the next guy is the one left holding the bag.

  25. Deepceev

    While it may be in the spirit of Bushido to speak truth to power, it's in the spirit of the Kamikaze to speak truth to snowflakes. - Diver Joe

  26. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    That's the trouble with Tribbles!

    That is the story everywhere! The posers are winning. They come in say that they can manage a project without IT experience and convince upper management that they can speed up a project. Once it's done on DEVSECOP's side, the PM's get credit, and get to hire more PMs. They're like f'ing Tribbles! They keep multiplying.

  27. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I worked with the MOD at Army HQ for two years...it's the same there

    Happy to chat anonymously, El Reg :)

  28. steviebuk Silver badge

    Reminds me of..

    ....Pentagon Wars

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA

    Exactly the same. This still continues to this day.

  29. Pol

    Nick was a BSer

    Most people who worked with him know well that he sold snake juice. He was a failure in navigating within complex bureaucracy of DOD. He acted alone. He exaggerated. He didn’t listen advice.

    He has some point here but only some.

  30. Man inna barrel

    The myth of the generalist manager

    There is an idea that there is a kind of experience or training, than makes someone qualified to lead any kind of activity, without having the faintest idea about how that activity is performed. As one might imagine, this can lead to some practical difficulties, such as the manager ordering you to do something that defies the laws of physics. A great deal depends on the basis of the manager's authority. A good manager has authority because he knows what he is talking about. A bad manager threatens all sort of sanctions for disobedience.

    1. Diogenes

      Re: The myth of the generalist manager

      such as the manager ordering you to do something that defies the laws of physics

      ------------------------

      Hey stop talking about Malcolm Turnbull former PM of Australia (and reputedly the smartest man in the room, any room - just ask him)... Anybody remember "The laws of Australia overrule the laws of mathematics"

  31. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Rasputin

    They get paid by putin and Xi for having leaky IT. The united states needs a ass kicking. I would hire him in an Alabama second. It is embarrasing dealing with imbiciles and dod drug dealers. I can not wait for revolution.

  32. Andy J

    Serving military officers tend to be sponsors rather than managers of projects.

    In fairness to the UK MOD, the lead on most operational requirements is in the hands of military officers, usually with a technical background commensurate with the field they are working in, because they represent the user on the ground, be it a soldier, sailor or airman. They are termed "Project sponsors'. Project management lies entirely within the Defence Procurement Agency - professional civil servants, almost entirely devout of military. The sponsor holds the purse-strings, subject to the whims of the MOD's tri-service Office of Management and Budget (or whatever it is known as these days, I've been away from that world for rather a long time). Steering a project through tends to be a triangular process between the sponsor (confirming the operational requirement still exists and is being met by the project), the project manager and whatever outside agency / cormpany is dealing the practical side, such as Qinetiq. BAE Systems etc. A lack of technical knowhow at the management level is rarely the problem, I suggest. Political judgement? maybe not so much.

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