A real go-GETTR: Former Trump aide tries to batter Twitter by ripping off its UI Former Trump campaign communications strategist and expert DNA communicator Jason Miller has launched a new social media platform he hopes will be the long-awaited free-speech utopia to rival Big Tech's supposedly crushing grip on public discourse. The app – known as GETTR, not to be confused with Turkey-based groceries app …
Much as I'd like to think the 777 is a sly reference to Trump's ill-fated and now demolished Atlantic City casino (which he often used as proof of his business acumen, despite it being one of the most unprofitable casinos in America), I'm pretty sure it's more that a rounded up number like 800 wouldn't have been as catchy a marketing point.
"Here is a thing I think that has really stymied a lot of conservatives in our efforts previously: we haven't had a lot of good products,"
Do they mean policies or the ability to explain their policies that appeal to the general public? Whilst Trump may have had some policies which were actually beneficial to the USA (and even also to 'the free world'), such as maybe the policy towards Chinese domination of electronics manufacturing, and expansion into the previously international waters of the South China Sea, they always seem to have come across as aggressive, authoritarian and sometimes rather crass. At least that is how the 'liberal media' portrayed them, aided by being quoted verbatim in context on many occasions, and the Republican party's repeated failures to actually answer questions posed. But that is a problem of presentation and fact, neither of which will be altered by a new version of Twitter. (I'm not on Twitter ad won't be getting Gettr either.)
In short, the Republicans need to look at their message and how they deliver it, not what they deliver it on. Try to make it actually rational and based on reality, and us 'liberals' might just listen (I'm British, so no votes, but hey, I take an interest).
maybe the policy towards Chinese domination of electronics manufacturing
Brilliant response by Trump, restrict Chinese access to high technology.
So the Chinese have 2 options:
1) Scrap manufacturing and return to a peaceful agrarian existence.
2) Invest heavily in R&D.
Obviously they did the latter and are now overtaking America in many fields and will continue to do so and that is partially due to the idiotic sanctions placed by Trump.
> Obviously they did the latter and are now overtaking America in many fields and will continue to do so and that is partially due to the idiotic sanctions placed by Trump.
This has been happening for decades. Come on. Any effects of Trump on Chinese investment in R&D wouldn't appear for a decade. It doesn't just happen in a few years.
Which is why I said "partially".
Obviously they were already investing R&D but the sanctions provoked them to massively step up the funding which will have benefits for them in the short, medium and long term.
Meanwhile in the USA the trend seems to be to cut R&D and boost the already excessive boardroom remuneration.
I just read an article on Gizmodo that reported a rather large amount of hentai porn & "old men naked except for a diaper" pics being trolled through the platform, mostly attached to normal threads, posted by folks that have created accounts under the names of (im)famous Republicans, or hashtag bombing those images/video clips in order to prove the place as the cesspit it was to everyone not busy kissing Trump's boots/ass to notice the OHSG didn't actually have an account there yet.
The fact that he chose Rumble instead is just icing on their social media turd.
The article is at:
https://gizmodo.com/new-social-media-site-from-team-trump-upsets-qanon-fait-1847220199
They ripped off Twitter content as well, which is visible within the app, including links and images. No doubt a cease and desist copyright suit from Twitter will be filed next week, and conservatives will cry and whine about how Big Tech is doing everything in their power to silence them.
Perhaps they did it knowing a lawsuit would result, hoping that being a "victim" would give them street cred among conservatives to help with uptake?
looking forward to it TBH :oP
if the right wing can spout their shite ad nauseum, without any fear of censorship, then surely a LEFT wing rabid dog can also spout their shite, again, without fear of censorship
or is this one of those one way streets the right seem to prefer ?
doubtful it will last longer then the time it takes for the first ISP bill to arrive TBH
as I find it unlikely that major advertising will make its way over there, and judging by the total lack of any form of baited breath in the background, it doesn't appear to have captured anyone's imagination either :o)
Your problem is that you're a bunch of numbnuts with a slavery-era mentality that missed the fact that we are now in the 3rd Millennium and racism is no longer kosher.
Not to worry though, with your grip on reality I'm sure you'll get around to understanding things by the 4th Millenniium.
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Living in the UK and having an interest in politics and what goes on in the world, I am stumped as to why Trump has not been sued for his public ranting claiming that he was cheated of the presidency etc.
Obviously if he had proof of the cheating going on then he would have produced it but there was none declared so I deduce that he did not have any proof.
Why has nobody taken action against him as they appear, at least to us here in the UK, to go to law for anything over there and I would assume that the democrats would have a valid case of defamation or whatever it is called over there.
Genuine question, not a troll as I would like to understand how their system works.
Well, I am not a lawyer, but you can't just sue for the fun of it. You sue to make amends for some sort of loss that you've suffered.
If Trump says he was cheated of the Presidency, Joe Bloggs can't sue him for that. If Trump says Joe Bloggs filed fake ballots to make him lose the presidency, then that would be a reputational loss that you've suffered, and perhaps you might have a case.
If you wanted to read up, then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tort is probably what you're looking for.
A good example is the suit filed by the Dominion voting machines folks.
They are suing *specific* people for *specific* statements that Dominion claims damages their reputation in a way that harms their business. They are not suing over general remarks made by random people. That is generally covered by freedom of expression clauses.
Will Dominion prevail? I have no idea - there is a ridiculous amount of legal mumbo-jumbo from both sides to be sorted out by the judge. But I can guarantee that whoever loses will be appealing the case as far as possible. This will drag on quite a while.
People may sue a lot, but you usually need a reason and they don't have one. "He was lying and being a jerk" doesn't qualify. Certain other criminal things might work, but for a civil suit, you usually have to answer two questions to prove that your suit is valid:
1. How were you harmed by the action?
2. In what way was the action unlawful, including breech of private contracts?
If you can't answer both questions, your suit is likely to be thrown out and you can save yourself lawyers' fees by checking before you file one that's going to die fast.
The big reason US politics are so broken and toxic is summed up right here: "same products as liberals, libertarians, greens, communists" ... in the us there are (as far as most people are concerned) no greens, libertarians, or communists, there are liberals and conservatives. Both main parties pretend 3rd parties do not exist at all, with the result of just the most ridiculous rhetoric and polarization. As far as conservatives are concerned, it's there way or a mix of extreme greeen and communist policies; as far as liberals are concerned it's there way or an extreme isolationism, "go back to slave days" conservatism mixed with fascism. You have extremists like Nutjob Trump where this is true, but you now have people in both main parties pretending like this is true with everyone.
What you have in US politics is the far right, and the centre right. The far right and their supporters claim that anything that they oppose (like very simple gun control) is "far left" or "communist". People in this forum have claimed that there is an extreme left in US politics but are unable to provide a single example. Voter suppression, insurrection and hysterical claims of fraud are the domain of the far right, I've yet to see any similar claims or actions by the "left".
@Mooseman
"What you have in US politics is the far right, and the centre right."..."People in this forum have claimed that there is an extreme left in US politics but are unable to provide a single example"
From the perspective of Europe which is (undeniably) further to the left. However in the US there does seem to be a difference. For example you wouldnt have libertarian Rand Paul on the left just as you wouldnt get AOC on the right.
"you wouldnt have libertarian Rand Paul on the left just as you wouldnt get AOC on the right."
True, but neither of them are "extreme left" are they? It's a matter of degree, that's all. None of the democrat policies are even faintly radical left wing, its just that you are so used to tarring anything vaguely do to with social care or moderate gun control etc as "marxist" as a knee-jerk response that you fail to see what it actually is.
@Mooseman
"True, but neither of them are "extreme left" are they?"
That depends, from who's perspective are we looking? US? European? Venezuelan? Thats why I said from the perspective of Europe they may not seem far left but I am from the UK and consider AOC a raving left loony, for example look at her proposed minimum wage. By European standards I would also expect Bernie to be considered a lefty (Nordic 3rd way socialism).
"its just that you are so used to tarring anything vaguely do to with social care or moderate gun control etc as "marxist" as a knee-jerk response that you fail to see what it actually is."
I am not in the US but yes that sometimes happens. Then again Obamacare made healthcare more expensive, fined people for not having it and hasnt made things any better. Bidens latest gaff on gun control only pushes more people to go buy them. And when idiots promote socialism as a good idea, go to rallies with Che Guevara T-shirts and hammer and sickle flags it is fair to assume them marxist. Or marxist organisations such as BLM which was given a fairly free pass to trash and burn cities while Trump was in power with support from dems doesnt look good either.
"when idiots promote socialism as a good idea, go to rallies with Che Guevara T-shirts and hammer and sickle flags it is fair to assume them marxist. Or marxist organisations such as BLM which was given a fairly free pass to trash and burn cities while Trump was in power with support from dems doesnt look good either."
Well, plenty of people turn up with t shirts with daft things on them. I'm wearing a Monty Python Spanish Inquisition t shirt as I write this, it doesn't mean I'm in favour of torture and auto da fe.
BLM is not marxist (there you go again with your far right fear tactics - striving for equality after decades of oppression is not the same thing at all) and neither were they burning cities; most fo the damage was done by far right groups pretending to be BLM supporters - go ahead and look there is plenty of evidence. You are still pushing the "radical left" idea about anything that doesn't wholeheartedly prop up the far right idiocy of trump et al, and have yet to actually offer any evidence other than "because I said so" to prove it.
What are you so afraid of?
@Mooseman
"Well, plenty of people turn up with t shirts with daft things on them. I'm wearing a Monty Python Spanish Inquisition t shirt as I write this, it doesn't mean I'm in favour of torture and auto da fe."
While I too wear amusing tshirts are you seriously going to claim the socialist crowds who wish to overthrow capitalism etc are not socialist?
"BLM is not marxist"
Useful idiots might not be but yes it is.
"striving for equality after decades of oppression is not the same thing at all"
Agreed but we are talking about BLM.
"and neither were they burning cities"
Holy shit and propaganda. Really?
"most fo the damage was done by far right groups pretending to be BLM supporters"
I cant take this seriously. You are kidding? Please tell me you are kidding.
"go ahead and look there is plenty of evidence"
Please do. Please go look.
"You are still pushing the "radical left" idea about anything that doesn't wholeheartedly prop up the far right idiocy of trump et al, and have yet to actually offer any evidence other than "because I said so" to prove it."
Eh what? Sorry you need to rewrite that because I have no idea what you are on about. That you dont think there is a radical left in the US is your belief. You even accuse the radical left of being far right pretending to be left.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456
https://crooksandliars.com/2020/07/white-supremacists-arrested-while
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/boogaloo-bois-minneapolis-precinct-antifa_n_5f938cdfc5b6a2e1fb616689?ri18n=true
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/jul/21/black-lives-matter-marxist-movement/
https://obamacarefacts.com/2017/07/12/did-the-aca-lead-to-high-medical-costs/
Again, please show me one example of "radical left" in US politics. Previous requests have been met with self-congratulatory twisted logic about how you can't show me if I don't believe it exists, which as a tautology is impressive. Let's be clear - I'm not talking about fringe lunatic groups that have roughly zero input into daily political life, I mean real actual left wing radicals. One example in the democratic party.
@Mooseman
"https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456"
Messages on twitter? Serious damage in the riots causing actual physical damage and destruction. I have purposefully chosen a source desperate to make the situation not so bad-
https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/
Remember that Trump had to send federal forces to protect federal buildings from these riots. It is a wishful dream to think far right infiltrators did all (or most) of the damage.
"https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/jul/21/black-lives-matter-marxist-movement/"
Quoting from your link "Marxism envisioned the revolutionary overthrow of capitalism by the proletariat (working class people) and eventually a classless communist society". BLM was founded by 3 women, 2 of whom are 'trained marxists'. Even the article you source seems desperate to avoid saying the movement is marxist while effectively saying it-
Noting Cullors’ declaration of being Marxist trained, "one has to take that seriously: if the leadership says it is Marxist, then there's a good chance they are," said Russell Berman, a professor at Stanford University and a senior fellow at its conservative Hoover Institution who has written critically about Marxism.
But "this does not mean every supporter is Marxist — Marxists often have used ‘useful idiots.’ And a Marxist movement can be more or less radical, at different points in time," he said.
"https://obamacarefacts.com/2017/07/12/did-the-aca-lead-to-high-medical-costs/"
Your source seems to agree that Obamacare pushed up the cost.
"Again, please show me one example of "radical left" in US politics."
The most obvious would be AOC and Sanders. Hell if your admiration and praise is for the communist approach then there is more than a little leaning to the left.
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