back to article Some stayed in Croatian castles. Some hid in cars. We speak to techies who experienced lockdown in very different ways

Darren Ellis spent eight weeks of 2020 quarantined in hotel rooms. James McParlane spent seven months of the year in a Croatian castle. Bruce Davie and Josh Odgers spent 111 days unable to travel more than five kilometres from home or spend more than an hour a day outside. Claire O'Dwyer moved to a tropical paradise. And Chris …

  1. Caver_Dave Silver badge
    Happy

    Thanks El Reg

    Thank you for such an interesting piece.

    As someone who works with a global team, mostly who work from home permanently, it is interesting to hear how other people are coping, and by the sounds of it, doing quite well despite the hurdles of working in a pandemic.

  2. 9Rune5

    Live where you want to live, not where you have to

    A friend of mine is relocating to a big house (almost the size of a mansion) that comes with its own tennis court (roughly the size of his old apartment). His employer is about to announce that they will now hire people regardless of where they live.

    I have long been thinking that people should be less accepting of having to live someplace they are not happy.

    I did that myself a few years ago. My location is not perfect (no tennis court! :) ), but more than good enough.1.5 km to the beach (in any direction) and a fiber connection to the rest of the world.

    1. Aristotles slow and dimwitted horse

      Re: Live where you want to live, not where you have to

      I agree. I'm lucky enough to have worked throughout and am now planning to sell up and move onto a sailing boat while I continue to do IT work remotely and at the same time continue to build my day-trading pot to keep the pocket money coming in.

      Still a bit of work to do - but it's all very exciting.

    2. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Live where you want to live, not where you have to

      >Re: His employer is about to announce that they will now hire people regardless of where they live.

      Is the whole team remote or just new hires? It makes a big difference

      Unless you are effectively a contractor, ie. working on a specific project yourself, you find that people in the office that bosses see everyday tend to be the ones that get picked for a new project.

      The couple of remote workers tend to get forgotten about, you get missed out on discussions and new opportunities.

      1. 9Rune5

        Re: Live where you want to live, not where you have to

        Is the whole team remote or just new hires?

        I think they are leaning towards 'the whole team'.

        What you are describing sounds more like bad mgmt to me. I try to avoid those type of environments.

        But --it happens everywhere. A year ago I basically accused my then manager of sabotage. He was extremely incompetent and rather nasty. And he was of the opinion that tech leads and architects must work on-site. Fortunately my view was shared by others, so that manager got replaced by somebody much more qualified.

  3. RockBurner

    I found this interesting:

    ""The amount of alcohol we are consuming is significantly reduced. We go to bed early and get up early and I'm doing things I never had time to do before."

    "I'm really working hard on the business, building processes and systems I never had time to do before," he said."

    My partner and I are completely the opposite.

    We're staying up later (bingeing West Wing|Line of Duty|Expanse|etc ), to try to forget the drudgery of the working day (which would normally be taken care of by the commute), She's also become a bit of a Skyrim widow :(

    Getting up later because we don't need to commute (although we are doing a morning walk instead, about the only exercise we are getting),

    Drinking more (at least a glass or wine per evening, sometimes a couple) where we wouldn't normally have any during the week, again I think this is to maintain sanity

    Both of us are working from improvised 'desks' that are not really suitable (mine is the dining table with a sit-stand platform and a 2nd monitor, keyboard & trackball) (although today i'm just on the sofa due to unfinished kitchen decorating and my back is already aching), and while we can work, I think we're both missing the office 'banter' that gets you through the day.

    Other lockdown restrictions have meant that while I was able to attend my father's funeral last month (my heart really goes out to those who had relatives pass before funeral gatherings were re-opened), we'll have to wait a few more months (hopefully) before we can have a proper celebration of his life. That is merely a single example of the way that the general flow of life has completely changed; well - for those of us who take the restrictions and precautions seriously anyway.

    It's got to the point that we're both becoming reluctant to go out and see friends/family (as things open up), because shunning the outside world has almost become our 'normal'. :(

    1. macjules

      My wife complains that she has become a Farcry 4 widow. I tell her that is nonsense: I have migrated to Farcry 5 so far.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I've been pretty smug throughout Lockdown, as my job hasn't changed at all. Still commuting in five or six days a week (on empty roads at the start, that was amazing. A drive of twenty minutes became a drive of five minutes!) and getting to work socialise with colleagues etc.

    The wife on the other hand has had a horrible time of WFH. Last month her timesheet showed she'd done 200% of her hours and clients seem to think they can schedule stuff for 2pm on a Sunday. :(

    1. My-Handle

      I got stuck somewhere between those two situations. I continued to work through lockdown, as my company began producing PPE and I was considered a core worker for the company's systems. I worked from home for a part of it, but I was last out of the office and first in, pretty much.

      I've not had a proper break since the first lockdown began, and the company's technical ambitions only ever grow. I've been showing symptoms of burnout for quite a while now. I'm grateful that I still have a job, and as you say commuting during lockdown was really quite nice, but some companies can really take the mick.

      1. GrumpenKraut
        Pirate

        > I've been showing symptoms of burnout for quite a while now.

        Should anything physical turn up (like muscle tremors or tinnitus-esque stuff), stop sharpish and take a long break. Things can turn from "just somewhat bad" to "lifelong consequences" faster than most people would believe.

        I have witnessed proper Evil Shit[TM] starting with "always a bit overworked".

        1. Sgt_Oddball

          Ahh...

          About the tinnitus stuff. It's pretty much part of me by this point. I've had since as long as I can remember (undiagnosed childhood ear infection which was only picked up once the damage was done).

          Hasn't stopped me hunting for better sounding stuff and is only irritating when it's quiet.

          Which at home has become more of a problem.

          1. Potty Professor
            Unhappy

            Re: Ahh...

            Tinnitis is the norm for me, started when I was working as an apprentice in Dagenham Foundry back in the late 60s, extremely noisy there, and I have a 4kHz whistle in my head 24/7.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Put padding in your estimations so you've got time to breathe when working. Set appointments for lunch and the end of the day and random periods in between so you shouldn't have your day block-booked with them. Lack of planning on their part does not constitute an emergency on your part. Don't become the go-to guy whenever there's a problem because there'll always be problems. Start when you should start and stop when you should stop. Easier said than done, but it has to be done otherwise they'll just take the piss.

        1. My-Handle

          That's definitely the way to go about it.

          It doesn't help when you give an estimate and the PTB immediately cut it to a third on principle. Or, even worse, when they outsource the design of a new feature to another company, spend weeks designing it, then expect it to be built in less time than it took to draw. The design's not even finished yet and they still expect me to have it mostly built.

          If I start ranting on this, I'll never stop. A long break is definitely the answer here, possibly with a change of situation as well.

          1. RockBurner

            Couldn't agree more.

            I found myself in just that situation (including being an unwilling department manager), it got so bad I simply had to up and quit as I was genuinely in danger of physically assaulting my immediate superior.

            Took a few months off, tinkered with motorbikes, got another job for 6 months, then the wife decided that she needed a break so we took the opportunity to go travelling in a camper van for a year.

            Absolutely the best thing I have ever done (even though we broke up). It allowed me to completely reset and reassess what I wanted from life and career and now although I'm back to being a php dev, I'm very firmly not a manager (and my manager knows this, I am adamant about that not being part of my job), and working for a non-corporate charitable organisation where I can actually 'do some good' for the world rather than just being a cog in someone else's money-syphoning machine.

            I'd heartily recommend a sabbatical or career break, there is always another job out there.

            1. Aristotles slow and dimwitted horse

              I agree, and this is the sole reason I am and remain a contractor. Yes, the money is good - but I like the fact that I and I alone am in charge of my time and direction. Across my work career I've taken quite a few sabbaticals - or "mini retirements" as I call them and my next year out is planned for when I finish my current contract in February :-)

              1. My-Handle

                I've been a permie (or at least one on a temp contract) for as long as I've been working. Never really got exposed to how the contracting gig works, so I've always been reluctant to take the plunge there.

                A long break would be great, but I just don't have the finance available to take extended leave. I've been looking at a new job elsewhere, so if I manage that then I will probably try and arrange a fortnight of downtime between the two. We'll have to see how that plays out though.

  5. Will Godfrey Silver badge
    Meh

    Croatian Castle sounds great

    Funny how these things can trigger ancient memories.

    Unfortunately this bit reminded me of when I was a kid and the family were on a camping holiday in Scotland. On the second day mum had an accident and ended up with a foot in plaster and arm in a sling.

    While still in the hospital, when we were visiting her an unexpected visitor turned up. This was in the mid 1950s. You know when some is pretty important when the arrive in full highland regalia and the staff are all giving discrete little bows and curtsies. The gentleman expressed sadness at the events and offered us time in his home as recompense. Dad declined. After the guy left, the staff told us who he was - a very big noise indeed, and his home was of course a castle. Us boys were devastated, and I think this is the only time I heard mum criticise dad in front of us, and boy did she let rip!

  6. spireite Silver badge

    Croatia...........excellent choice!

    ...not least because I'm also in Croatia at the moment. The benefit of having Croatian family, having married into it.

    Still, it made getting out of the UK a chore, and into the Croatian border was a PITA as well.

    2 months i'll be here, because - due to Brexit - I'm limited to a max 90 days in any 180 day rolling period....

    Incidentally, if you are IN Croatia 183 days +, you become liable for tax here as well,,,, unless you sign up to their Digital Nomad scheme

    https://www.total-croatia-news.com/news/digital-nomads-in-croatia

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I'm stuck in WFH, no chance to meet colleagues or travel to other sites. Boring. We're allowed to do WFH anywhere within the country, but not internationally (not even elsewhere in the EU) since that messes up the tax situation. I have a nice home office set up, so equipment-wise it's no different to working in the office, other than there being no-one to have lunch with.

    Added to that, HR have told us that we have to use up all our accumulated leave by the end of May, or lose it. Since I didn't go anywhere last year I still have most of a year's leave to take, so I'm off for the whole of May. With nowhere to go.

    Maybe things will get back closer to normal by then. Or at least normal enough to plan a holiday.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "Added to that, HR have told us that we have to use up all our accumulated leave by the end of May, or lose it. Since I didn't go anywhere last year I still have most of a year's leave to take, so I'm off for the whole of May. With nowhere to go."

      Not sure where you're based, but the UK have put into law that you can carry over holiday for 2 years.

      https://www.gov.uk/government/news/rules-on-carrying-over-annual-leave-to-be-relaxed-to-support-key-industries-during-covid-19

  8. Blackjack Silver badge
    Stop

    Brazil has got so bad their neighbors basically have a border watch around it.

    I keep expecting reading "I got infected" any time Brazil was mentioned in the article

  9. Muppet Boss
    Pint

    Happy pre-Covid times

    A remote workforce drone and a bit of a traveller here.

    Start of 2020: Successfully completed some nice IT project and went on some leisure travel in Asia.

    Mid-Jan 2020: Rented a motorcycle in Hanoi and went to the North of Vietnam to personally witness the breathtaking natural landscapes and suicidal Hmong drivers. Then 2 weeks in the mountains on a Honda, insanely beautiful mountain backroads like ĐT217, ĐT176, ĐT177, bamboo cable ferries, otherwordly Avatarish landscapes, rice terraces the size of Bali, tribal people living in huts, drunken locals do all sorts of crazy death driving on unfenced mountain roads, sickening scary ĐT197C road, tens of miles of thick unbroken fog everywhere. Calm. Joy. Solitude. Riding some roads alone in the North is stupid bordering a suicide, better befriend a fellow biker. Wow, I am officially a goy shel shabat now, how did this happen? Some news about the "new virus" in China but no one is worried. The sick bats' caves are right across the border, over the mountain. Maybe some on this side of the border too, there is no such thing as border control if you are a bat.

    Start of Feb 2020: Rode down south to Phong Nha. Wow. Stunning caves, several from top-10 world largest all in one place. Lots of fellow travellers, great vibe. Crossed from North Vietnam to South Vietnam. Feels like a different country, different everything, road quality, people attitude, English ability, beer brands, public transport. All magically changes right after the bridge which is the old border. Same bad driving though. Huế, Da Nang, Hội An are really nice despite very touristy but cannot compete with the natural grandeur of the mountains. First concerns about the "new virus" spreading outside China and some venues are closed but just because of the Tết holidays. Old ladies on scooters keep ramming my bike from behind, which is a local custom. Former US airbase fields in Da Nang and Pleiku are nothing to see despite high expectations. Ok, just need to ride and I've got some Wagner for myself. Road to Pleiku has hordes of green mosquitoes the size of a bee, have to wipe the visor every few seconds and worse, these beasts are sticky and explode! Why don't they make visor wipers? Oh they do? I need one now!

    Mid-Feb 2020: Lots of cool places while riding along the coast, Qui Nhơn is super cool with zero tourists, Mekong delta is so bloody long. Got stuck at the Côn Sơn prison island for a week because of the damn high waves. No regrets getting stuck at a tropical paradise and a premium place despite its dark past. And the seafood... The French prisons are as monumental as the Ancient Roman architecture and look ready-to-use. The US concentration camps on the contrary are falling apart cheap concrete structures. There used to be a LORAN navigation station at Con Son, destroyed by the US when leaving, just some concrete foundations and bridges left but it was cool to compare with the old photos. Found the massive concrete base for the colossal LORAN antenna though! Suddenly a lot of fear about the Covid around, locals think that all the Chinese are contagious and refuse to host them or come close to them. But hey, this is Asia, people are very different here.

    End of Feb 2020: Some serious panic starts about the virus, most islands are closed to all foreigners because "the foreigners carry the virus" but Phú Quốc is still business as usual. Sun, sea and beach: finally, properly hot weather and a warm sea! And more seafood! Fantastic time at the island, and getting back to Sài Gòn to return the bike there. 4'000 miles on a bike in Vietnam and not becoming a roadkill - not too bad! I will miss you too Honda!

    Start of Mar 2020: Moving to Thailand, Phuket is full of tourists as usual, no one cares about the virus when there is money to be made. More sun, more sea and more beach in Phuket but Ko Lanta is just 4 hours ride and no crowds there! Malaysia is not too far as well but returning the bike is problematic. Booked flights for Malaysia.

    Mid-Mar 2020: Phuket authorities insist there is no Covid on the island which is apparently an understatement. Entertainment venues are ordered to close. My flights to Malaysia are cancelled. There are fewer tourists but the remaining ones are super happy and many aim to pleasantly spend a month or 2 while things are settling down. No one really expects the virus to last long.

    End of Mar 2020: Restaurants and food courts are ordered to close or work as takeaways. Beaches are closed but it is only enforced after a few days. The locals panic and blame "Europeans"/"Americans" for bringing in the virus. Some people start to throw stones at foreigners not wearing face masks. Phuket authorities are going to severe all air and land connections and become a "fortress island". Things are getting worse by the hour. It will not end quick. Better be getting out of here. I am able to book the flight from Phuket back home. It is cancelled. I am able to book another one. It is the very last one to depart and there are no international flights after that. The beaches are empty, an impossible sight for Phuket, and so beautiful. The weather is fantastic.

    I'll get myself a beer.

    1. RockBurner

      Re: Happy pre-Covid times

      Visor wipers??

      Tell me more!

      (seriously - sounds like one hell of a trip, I'm somewhat jealous!)

      1. Muppet Boss

        Re: Happy pre-Covid times

        Haha, that's true mate, the start of the year was surely way more fun than the next few months, fortunately I was able to get out at the very last moment or it would become the wrong kind of entertaining.

        The wipers, there's a WiPEY Kickstarter project which looks interesting and also various Asian knock-offs, I saw a few in Asia but they kill the helmet aerodynamics and just get blown off. And neither wipes the crushed insects goo, rather just spreads it over.

        With those mosquitoes, I've literally never seen anything like this, every couple minutes of riding the visor was fully blocked with sticky green goo which did not come off when wiped with a glove. I bought a thumb squeegee at the next bike shop.

        1. Potty Professor
          Angel

          Re: Happy pre-Covid times

          When I was at Uni, back in the late 60s, early 70s, I had a bike (well, a Lambretta actually) to tootle around the town and between campuses. I had a Bubble Visor until one day I sneezed mightily (Hayfever) and couldn't see where I was going. Had to stop and wipe the snot off the inside of the visor, so went to Halfords and bought a RotoVisor. This was a transparent plastic disc with small fins at an angle round the edge, pivoted on an aluminium frame so that the wind of your passage caused it to rotate and centrifuge the raindrops, squashed bugs, and other unpleasantnesses off. The unfortunate downside was that the gyroscopic action of a rapidly spinning disc wrenched your head upwards and backwards if you tried to look right and forwards and down if you tried to look left. Had to develop a sort of downward angle if you wanted to look right, and upward tilt to look left. Took forever to lose that habit when transferring to a car. (Icon because that's what I looked like with it on).

          1. Potty Professor

            Re: Happy pre-Covid times

            Sorry, that should have been Turbo-Visor, Little grey cells are beginning to let me down occasionally.

            http://sideburnmag.blogspot.com/2010/02/turbo-visor.html

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    NHS Largely Unchanged

    There are bits of the trust I haven't been to in a year but, apart from that, work continues as normal.

    I have had Covid twice plus a few other things but didn't even notice the first time. We all had an antibody test last summer(?) that showed the first time and the second one was more than 6 months later. I continue my huge admiration for the people who PPE up and get in there. They are why people like me are

    A alive and

    B in the NHS

    We have got as many people as possible to work from home. Teams meetings are great. They keep to schedule and you don't need to beg for a room! My journey to work time was halved and some days I was able to WFH as well. Traffic is building up again but the more people we have working from home, the fewer toilets need to be converted into offices...

  11. eldel

    Sometimes you just get lucky

    The project I was working on (80 hr weeks - crappy management - all on-site) got 'rightsized' just as the COVID shit was hitting the fan. I scored a full WFH job with sensible management and decent planning. I actually went to my previous boss and thanking him for canning me. I don't think he was expecting that.

  12. The Axe

    I was on furlough for most of 2020. So the garden looked very nice by the end of the year and the big projects that been waiting for a few years got done.

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