Having never used Windows, is Timeline similar to Handoff on Apple devices? I find that very useful as a feature, so either people like me on Windows represent a use case too small to bother with, or MS's implementation was lacking. Either way I thought the idea was decent.
Microsoft calls time on Timeline: Don't worry, more features that nobody asked for coming your way
Microsoft is set to pull down at least one shutter on the once-trumpeted Timeline feature of Windows 10, judging by the most recent emission on the Windows Insider Dev Channel. Lurking within the tedium that usually makes up a Dev Channel build nowadays was the following nugget: If you have your activity history synced …
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Thursday 15th April 2021 10:30 GMT Dave K
This is one of my typical gripes with Windows 10 - the fact that MS keeps introducing new features, making a song and dance about them, then dropping them a few years later after take-up has been slow. Meanwhile, the core UI of Windows 10 remains messy and clearly unfinished in many areas.
So far we've seen the end of:
Cortana
Sets
Paint 3D (not completely dead, but shuffled off to the store)
3D Objects folder
Timeline
Maybe instead of devoting so much effort to short-lived gimmicks that people largely don't use, they might want to spend some time getting the basics right first of all.
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Thursday 15th April 2021 11:18 GMT Steve K
Focus Assist
Focus Assist is another one to turn off immediately, along with Focussed Inbox in Outlook/Exchange.
Also (in O365 corporate) Admins can now opt in (or was it out) to linking Corporate and Personal MS IDs via Bing searches to earn MS Rewards.
Who asked for that (apart from the Bing product team....)?
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Thursday 15th April 2021 12:17 GMT Dave K
Re: Focus Assist
Good point, Focussed Inbox is always one of the first things I disable. Once again, instead of gimmicks like this, I'd much rather they stop the damn thing from freezing if there's a delay with server communication. Oh, and pruning some of the god-awful white space they keep adding in as well. Outlook is almost unusable on a small 16:9 laptop screen these days if you have the message pane below the e-mail list.
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Friday 16th April 2021 16:48 GMT Michael Wojcik
Re: Focus Assist
Yeah, more than once I've had a colleague complain that they're not getting some set of emails, only to discover that they accidentally had the idiotic Focus misfeature enabled and it was hiding them.
Personally, I never enable the Preview Pane / Reading Pane in Outlook. There have been too many Outlook vulnerabilities that could be triggered through Preview/Reading. (And Outlook still – still – will render certain types of inline images even with all image-rendering options turned off. Despite the fact that was publicly raised as a vulnerability in 1998. Is the Windows Metafile renderer completely free of exploitable vulnerabilities? Want to bet on it?) At least when I have to open messages explicitly in a separate window, I have a moment to think about whether I actually want to do that.
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Thursday 15th April 2021 17:19 GMT Anonymous Coward
Forgot to include: launch a similar, but not identical, product that has the same name plus an added word or two.
Skype / skype for business.
Teams/ Teams Light
Any number of "express" versions like Outlook / Outlook Express
They'll be named similarly enough that you can't easily filter your Google search to filter the correct results (no, Bing doesn't do any better) but different enough that the results for the "wrong" software won't quite work.
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Thursday 15th April 2021 20:30 GMT bombastic bob
don't forget the disappearance of the Windows 7 and XP "look and feel"
and the traditional Start Menu (not that "start thing" of Win-10-nic)
Even with start menu replacements, there's still SO MUCH that STILL needs to go away, from ads and spyware to "the Micros~1 Logon" that you're strong-armed into using.
So Micros~1 continues to get it "bass ackwards" with respect to Win-10-nic "features'
And all they needed to do... ALL they needed... was to make Windows 7 more robust and reliable and to fully support newer hardware. And it would have COST THEM LESS to have done so.
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Friday 16th April 2021 16:46 GMT Michael Wojcik
From a recent story I understand the Windows Stores and UWP are also on the way out.
Not Win10 specific, but: Silverlight, WPF, and WCF.
I've never used any of the dead or dying Win10 features (because ugh), but I do work on a project that -- at considerable urging from Microsoft -- made heavy use of WCF, and Microsoft's abandonment of that in its new hippie incarnations of .NET is annoying. Microsoft has maybe twice the attention span of Google.
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Thursday 15th April 2021 12:29 GMT Hubert Cumberdale
"Local activity history will remain on Windows 10"
Not on my box, it won't. All of that gets disabled on machines I have anything to do with. And Timeline has long been one of my "first kills" after a fresh install of Windows 10 (along with that damned stupid and indeed dangerous hiding of file extensions).
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Thursday 15th April 2021 16:59 GMT yetanotheraoc
Re: "Local activity history will remain on Windows 10"
Microsoft telemetry already told them their users are disabling Timeline. That's why they are killing it. Their other option was removing your ability to disable it, but I guess Timeline doesn't generate any revenue for them...
Agree about hiding extensions. But I use that "feature" on the network drive when I replace the icon on a batch file to make it look like a database or similar. Keeps the instructions very simple for the point-and-click users. And I think that's the same reason Microsoft does it as well. It's the same thinking behind Libraries. You don't need to know what it is, you don't need to know what it does, you don't need to know where it's saved, just click on what you're told and Clippy/Bob/Cortana will take care of the rest.
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Friday 16th April 2021 09:27 GMT Hubert Cumberdale
Re: "Local activity history will remain on Windows 10"
Telemetry is something else I have to (repeatedly) disable. It keeps turning itself back on though, which is infuriating (and possibly not legal). O&O ShutUp10 is good for keeping on top of these things, though.
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Thursday 15th April 2021 14:37 GMT Pascal Monett
"We can't wait to hear what you think!"
Really ? Here : TURN IT OFF !!
I want an OS, not a circus. Stop trying to transform Windows into the most interesting thing on my PC. It's there to run the stuff I need, not to remind me that I'm using a Borkzilla product.
Why can't Borkzilla understand ? You need to make an OS channel and a bullshit channel. The OS channel should be stable, reliable, no nonsense. The bullshit channel can have whatever brainfart you can concieve of, and users can subscribe to it if they want.
That would make things a lot simpler.
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Thursday 15th April 2021 20:30 GMT bombastic bob
Re: "We can't wait to hear what you think!"
I want an OS, not a circus
To them, the OS *IS* the MOST important thing on YOUR PC. This dates back to the MS-DOS days where arrogant developers would silently mess up your autoexec.bat and config.sys files, which required manual intervention to fix it BACK.
From the article: the ability to restart applications automatically following reboot and sign in
OK - this is what phones do, sometimes, if you want them to. However, didn't we used to have a 'Startup' folder in Start Menu to start things on bootup? Aren't there registry entries we could muck with to make that happen? And I've seen 3rd party GUI tools for non-guru users that leverage these.
So here's the thing: it's bad enough when malware takes over these "features". Let's not allow regular applications to do it, too. I may NOT want to spend an extra 30 seconds booting up to recover whatever web pages were visible when I powered off last. Or maybe I do. But browsers typically let me "recover" that state when I start them myself. Or choose NOT to.
I can only see this causing even MORE inconvenience, having to MANUALLY SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING EVERY TIME I POWER OFF.
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Thursday 15th April 2021 21:51 GMT whitepines
Re: "We can't wait to hear what you think!"
the ability to restart applications automatically following reboot and sign in
My Linux boxes have all done that, locally, for the past 15 years or more. It's something I don't even think about any more, I just expect it to happen on login and very much like it.
Did Micros~1 somehow manage to require a cloudy service backend for this basic feature?
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Friday 16th April 2021 07:14 GMT Jason Hindle
I’ve had plenty of mileage from Timeline
I like it and it does set Windows apart from Apple’s Mission Control. It is Mission Control + history. Corporates dislike it presumably because it means details of documents opened, and so on, on Microsoft servers? Being able to stop for the day, and then continue where I left off (smaller device) on the commute was pretty cool. It’s now disabled on the corporate Dell.