back to article Workday bets big on staff coming back to the office by splurging $172.5m on HQ and five more Bay Area buildings

SaaSy HR and finance software biz Workday is backing its return-to-office plan with a $172.5m property investment on the eastern side of San Francisco Bay - at a time when flexible working seems here to stay. According to the Mercury News, the application vendor has bought six buildings in Pleasanton, in the East Bay, …

  1. lglethal Silver badge
    Facepalm

    If you consider 5 days family time, too much family time then maybe you should reconsider your family life...

    1. Will Godfrey Silver badge
      Meh

      He probably regards his own family as some sort of business 'accessory'.

  2. Tom 38

    Nope

    No problems here with collaboration, onboarding, ideas exchange when WFH. I'm struggling to think of any activity that we used do in person that can't be replaced with some combination of miro, chat and video conferencing. Even pre-lockdown, "in person brainstorming" was a bunch of people working on Miro on their own laptop in one small poorly ventilated room.

    1. Michael

      Re: Nope

      You clearly don't have network connectivity issues. I've a 900kbs uplink speed when it isn't raining on FTTC. I have no 5G connectivity options and 4G signal is unreliable. Office working is definitely not disappearing any time soon for me.

      1. Tom 38

        Re: Nope

        You clearly don't have network connectivity issues.

        This is true; synchronous gigabit FTTP at home. However, I did get locked down at my parents when we visited at Christmas* for a 3 week visit that turned into 3 months, and manged fine on a very long line FTTC connection too - 20Mbps down, 1MBps up.

        * We got Covid tests** and then isolated for 2 weeks before travelling by car, and left before London was locked down

        ** Offered to us by the local council

      2. Mike 137 Silver badge

        Re: Nope

        An international conference today on Zoom with around 40 participants (without video but with desktop presentations) took a lot less than 900 kb/s. So it can be done, although I do sympathise with your predicament. It has been suggested that getting your MP involved can increase your broadband performance.

      3. Dwarf

        Re: Nope

        @Michael

        I guess you have not heard about StarLink then ?

        1. ragnar

          Re: Nope

          It's still quite eye-wateringly expensive for a non-business connection though.

          1. Dwarf

            Re: Nope

            I agree, but a lot less per month than a daily commute to $BigSmoke

            .. and a lot more useful too

    2. My other car WAS an IAV Stryker

      Re: Nope

      At Stryker HQ, meetings that had more than local people -- quite often -- used one platform or another (no telling what they use now; I left 3 years ago) with all the local people huddled in one room since the desk phones were old (speaker but no mic), rarely anyone had headsets, etc. Sometimes it was phone-call-only, sometimes desktop share actually worked.

      In current role, we often started projects that way using Webex, mostly for the desktop sharing. Everyone had laptops and often brought them. Then everyone slowly migrated back to their own desks and still used the Webex, especially once the computer-phone audio got bridged. During pandemic, we all converted to a competitor (no, I'm not telling) but the meetings haven't changed one bit. A month ago they also cancelled the former phone/voicemail service so my office desk phone is dead and my line routes to my laptop as a softphone.

      Force me back to the office; I still won't leave my desk just like I don't leave my "home office" now. Same laptop, same headset, same El Reg to read.

      1. NeilPost Silver badge

        Re: Nope

        The only office benefit to me is Gregg’s is a <5 minute walk away....

        .... though a nice Scottish Morning Roll or Aldi Sourdough Baguette fits round some cook at home bacon just as well.

  3. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    "a great culture and an inspired workforce"

    Yes, he's an HR man through and through. It's easier to insult your staff's intelligence if they're in the office.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Inspired Workforce?

      The staff certainly need inspiration because Workday is one of the worst, inherently unusable applications I have come across in recent years. Weird interaction patterns, illogical or non-existent navigation, crappy accessibility, unhelpful error messages - the list goes on and on.

      You can tell it is hard to use because of the number of 'victim' guides our company has had to produce to tell people how to use it for almost every task.

      1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

        Re: Inspired Workforce?

        I agree that Workday's software is pretty lousy, in my experience; but after reading this article, I think I like their CEO even less than I like their software.

        But who knows – more exposure to either might tip the balance.

  4. werdsmith Silver badge

    Ooh Pleasanton! Memories of Stoneridge vs Dublin Place.

  5. Will Godfrey Silver badge
    Happy

    My old firm had this nailed years ago.

    People only went into the office cum workshop when they needed to get spares, do some mechanical work or discuss intractable machine/software problems. At the same time the boss organised 2 monthly update breakfasts at a hotel. This was a slap up breakfast followed by adjourning to a conference room for company report and Q/A session. I understand they really miss those!

    P.S. I was the only one there full time apart from the boss. I might have been an oldie but I still had the steadiest hands for delicate bench work. I also did most of the PLC software development.

  6. mevets

    Anybody else have to use Workday apps?

    I don't find it surprising that they feel people have to be on premises. I would rather do everything by hand, in triplicate, topped with a 27b stroke 6 than drudge through that menace again.

    Why do we have to re-create html5, js, flash, html-forms, 3270 display applications as each generation lights upon the same terrible idea, rolls out gobs of barely usable crap only to re-invigorate having real apps again?

  7. tin 2

    Must be a lot of buildings full of people twiddling their thumbs

    ...only takes 1 junior web dev to create a load of text boxes wrapped in impenetrable dynamic HTML5 "UI"

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