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India’s space program will test a vehicle it expects will soon carry a crew into space in December 2021. Minister of State for Atomic Energy and Space, Dr Jitendra Singh, yesterday provided a written answer to questions posed in the nation’s Parliament and said an unmanned flight is planned for December 2021. A second test is …

  1. Neil Barnes Silver badge
    Mushroom

    Chicken Korma?

    A staple of UK 'Indian' takeaways, of course, but perhaps not traditionally Indian.

    It's not going to provide any additional -->

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Chicken Korma?

      Just as for the Mercury 7, the astronauts will have trained for far harsher conditions than they will actually experience in space (see The Right Stuff), and I'm sure that will include something more authentic than the food from UK takeaways.

    2. Sgt_Oddball

      Re: Chicken Korma?

      It'd be interesting to see if they ever dock with the ISS... I can imagine the grumbles over the smell now.

      (For the record, I once lived in a flat previously occupied by an Indian family, the. The smell of stale turmeric never left the place, you just got used to this. It was especially noticeable after a holiday).

      On the flipside, has anyone investigated spices flavours in space? I mean if they don't work in space, then that pretty much blows a hole in Red Dwarf and Dave Lister's adventures in Vindaloos...

      1. Trigonoceps occipitalis

        Re: Chicken Korma?

        The chemicals that give Vindaloo its distinctive heat, taste and smell are not necessarily those that have "special effects".

        1. Sgt_Oddball

          Re: Chicken Korma?

          The special effects would surely just be a new propulsion method in micro-gravity surely?

      2. Spherical Cow Silver badge

        Re: Chicken Korma?

        "The smell of stale turmeric never left the place"

        The smell was more likely to be asafoetida (called hing in Hindi) which is one of the stinkiest substances I've ever encountered, but it does make Indian food taste soooo good. It's the difference between westernised curries and authentic Indian food. I keep my tub of hing inside an airtight jar.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Chicken Korma?

      Well as this mission is funded by UK "international development" aid money, a cheeky Korma would be quite apt...

  2. Potemkine! Silver badge

    Priorities

    Even if India succeeded to reduce the poverty of its people, a huge part of its population still lives in harsh conditions. In that case, should the space race get so much funding?

    What India does in space exploration is astonishing and is a great success, but I believe that money should rather be used to help the many ones in need.

    1. A Non e-mouse Silver badge

      Re: Priorities

      This is always a tough one.

      I believe the arguement is that investing in, say space, are that the spin-offs bring more into the economy.

    2. parlei Bronze badge

      Re: Priorities

      Considering the huge poverty- and lack of health care access problems in the USA, should they really be spending so much on a space project?

      1. Potemkine! Silver badge

        Re: Priorities

        Can the level of poverty compared between the US and India? As for the US, it should less spend on military hardware, and take a better care of its population, but it seems a majority of voters disagrees.

        1. A Non e-mouse Silver badge

          Re: Priorities

          It's interesting to compare priorities in the UK vs US:

          - In the UK, the National Health Service is seen as sacrosanct

          - In the US, the military is seen as sacrosanct

          1. Death_Ninja

            Re: Priorities

            The difference between UK and USA and why these spendings are different is that one is totally post-empire, the other not quite yet - or at least hasn't recognised it.

            Your priorities can be different when you aren't trying to control huge swathes of the world by force of arms to ensure free movement of your commerce activities.

            If the British Empire hadn't fallen, I doubt we'd be talking about an NHS at all. We'd be talking about how the Royal Navy was the biggest recipient of money and clapping Grand Admirals at 8pm every night.

            I wonder what the national Holy Cow is in India? No pun intended, well, maybe a little.

            1. Cynic_999

              Re: Priorities

              "I wonder what the national Holy Cow is in India? "

              Having visited the country and spoken to a few ordinary wage-slaves, my impression is that education is pretty near the top of the list.

        2. John Jennings

          Re: Priorities

          Yes, it can, depending upon the metric it is similar (relative inequality between the top 10 % in either case, rather than absolute poverty). There are a lot of people living in tents with nothing in the US now.

          Its not the point, and you are considering it from a socialist perspective - which India isnt.

          India has a development plan - mostly affecting its middle class - to move to a more technologically advanced economy. Its not going to get that through providing for its lower classes. It wants to showcase that its up there technically with the top tier economies in the world - and manned flight is one of those milestones. India is growing fast - as is China, Russian and Indonesia - and unfortunate as it is - a LOT of people are left behind or fall back.

          It was the same in Blighty during the Industrial revolution

    3. John Robson Silver badge

      Re: Priorities

      So what is their space budget? (probably less than you think)

      How many people are in poverty? (that number will be bigger than you think)

      Does the industry supported by the space project keep more people out of poverty, even before the benefits of spin off industries which will be developed.

      1. Cynic_999

        Re: Priorities

        "Does the industry supported by the space project keep more people out of poverty ... "

        Probably not ... yet. But India has a perfectly viable plan that could well see that goal achieve a lot faster than it otherwise would.

        I suspect that in a few decades India may be sending a few charitable scraps of its wealth to help the UK's poor.

        But before criticising India's priorities, you might consider whether with so many British people now being classed as living below the poverty line, should our governmnet be spending billions on an HS rail link?

    4. Adventurer

      Re: Priorities

      Hmmm. That arguement was used when the Apollo 11 astronauts walked on the moon.

      1. Twanky

        Re: Priorities

        Hmmm. That arguement was used when the Apollo 11 astronauts walked on the moon.

        Wow! the argument is that old?

        I take your point but I can imagine a similar argument in various pharaoh's courts - should we build this or give the poor the money?

        Money is only useful when it moves. If it's hoarded then it loses it's value as an aid to trade and exchange. Piles of gold may sound attractive (potential joke opportunity) but not particularly useful or comfortable.

        The huge expense and logistical effort in building a pyramid kept many people employed for very many years.

    5. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Priorities

      And the US sent people to space the same time as it strung people up from trees . The UK spent money on a rocket program while killing Kenyans in the 1960s.

      This is a topic on the space program. Stick to topic instead of dumping your messianic white savior complex all over it. It’s not like New Delhi is ever going to take economic advice from its colonial plunderer .

  3. John Robson Silver badge
    Coat

    India flying to space "Gaganyaan style"

    Sorry

    1. MyffyW Silver badge

      Re: India flying to space "Gaganyaan style"

      Dancing in my sari already

  4. s. pam Silver badge
    Trollface

    In space...

    no one can smell your farts after a strong curry

    sorry couldn't resist that one

  5. Cynic_999

    Caste

    A person's occupation in India is usually associated with their caste. But AFAIK there is no caste associated with the job of "astronaut" Will this be a problem?

    1. Spherical Cow Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: Caste

      Perhaps for space exploration the old system will be caste aside?

    2. Raj

      Re: Caste

      The President of India is a so called ‘untouchable’. So were two of his predecessors . The Prime Minister is a ‘backward caste’ . The chief architect of the Indian constitution was a Columbia and LSE educated ‘untouchable’ whose education was funded by the upper caste raja of his state . I am an ‘untouchable’ .

      Stop trying to sound like YOU know anything about caste .

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