back to article Next day delivery a bit of a pain? We have just the thing... nestled deep in the terms and conditions

A bork of a different nature today, as we find evidence of the curse cropping up not in the usual places, but instead lurking within digital-based terms and conditions. Register reader Alan noted the borkage while studying the small print around delivery, warranty and returns for laptop parts website laptopbitz.co.uk. bork …

  1. msknight
    Coat

    Laptop orders...

    ...during the pandemic have certainly been migraine inducing. Just ask schools!

    1. JetSetJim

      Re: Laptop orders...

      Give them a break, they're also bidding for ferry contracts so this item is an essential part of their Ts & Cs

    2. tcmonkey

      Re: Laptop orders...

      Thanks for reminding me of that headache. Not in education, and the business I work for just happened to have enough machines stockpiled but our suppliers couldn’t get new laptops for love, money, booze or negotiable affection.

  2. Calum Morrison

    Time for them to change their FTP password

    Looks like a bot has compromised them and is placing text in their site to help their SEO rather than a copy and paste snafu; worth letting them know if you can.

  3. Dave White
    Trollface

    Newfangled

    You should have used lipsum.com instead of loremipsum.io... it pre-dates the latter by 14 years, and is probably more relevant to this audience ;-)

    1. Loyal Commenter Silver badge

      Re: Newfangled

      nah, you should use baconipsum.com

      1. Irony Deficient

        Re: Newfangled

        (and goodness, it would make a change from Lorem ipsum)

        Ditch Cicero, and use a bit of Catullus instead — Catullus 23 is one possibility. (Translations into other languages are easily located via search engine.)

      2. Kane
        Angel

        Re: Newfangled

        "nah, you should use baconipsum.com"

        My life is now complete, thank you!

  4. Ol'Peculier
    FAIL

    Unless somebody was demonstrating their CMS as added that text and forgot to remove it?

    I did this with a clients site once and changed it so "the nearest shopping centre is 40 million miles away". I forgot to change it back until ntk.net featured it...

    1. mhoulden

      I've worked in office parks where that would be an understatement.

  5. heyrick Silver badge

    woopsie of a different sort appears to have been made.

    That's not a whoopsie. It's now proof that one person actually bothered to read the small print.

    1. Chloe Cresswell Silver badge

      Re: woopsie of a different sort appears to have been made.

      reminds of of Dave Gorman's first episode of Modern Life is Goodish, where he does that with the TFL hire bike T&Cs (30+ pages iirc) where he found TFL didn't know how many days were in a leap year.

    2. Sandtitz Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Re: woopsie of a different sort appears to have been made.

      One study said that about 1 out of 3000 reads (and understands) the software license:

      $1000 reward for reading the EULA

  6. Aristotles slow and dimwitted horse

    A question...

    Do they also have any ships available as part of their T&C's? A local pizza business wants to know...

  7. chivo243 Silver badge
    Go

    spazmalgon

    spasm all gone? You can't make this stuff up! It must be real.

    1. Muscleguy

      Re: spazmalgon

      It is likely to be diazapam or something closely related. I had some prescribed during the first lockdown phase when my spine got seriously twisted, literally, shoved to the right and at the bottom forward. i could not stand up straight. Thought some of my vertebrae were collapsing and feared paralysis.

      Got a same day appointment by phone at the relevant local hospital. Saw a cheerful PPE equipped doctor who diagnosed spasmed back muscles. Gave me codeine and diazapam and a prescription for more diazapam as they limit the amount you can have at any one time.

      It worked. I straightened my spine once the pain was tolerable by dint of going for a walk swinging both hips and shoulders, lumbar spine in the middle. Outward things were dicy, back didn’t like going down the steep hill.But along the beach it got easier and easier. Came up the hill (different one not so steep) it was back to normal.

      Orthopaedics at least here in Dundee worked in the lockdown. So did the Scottish NHS24. I am very grateful. Was mightily relieved by the diagnosis. Didn’t clutch the seat ahead on the bus in quite the same desperation and worry going home again.

      1. W.S.Gosset
        Thumb Up

        Injury! Pain!

        OT: MuscleGuy, unreserved recommendation: go see a freak chap in Hampshire called Quincy Rabôt. (T is silent -- he's Sri Lankan)

        He can't help about 10-20% of the people who see him; the remainder walk out feeling like they're 15 again.

        He's the reason why I didn't have to have a knee replacement mid-90s.

        At the time, I was per the UK WTF (world Taekwondo federation) "at least" 6th Dan (1st Dan by my Aussie club's very high standards), benchpressing twice my bodyweight, but courtesy of an idiot and a pushbike accident and a hidden rock was looking at needing crutches or a walking stick for the rest of my life. (Blew both cruciates, both major menisci, and the joint capsule)

        Was trying any random possibilities and recommendations at the time on a desperation basis because the pain was excruciating, ditto the life-limitation (final physiotherapist was ex Olympics physio, he failed too, and finally confirmed doctor's assessment re knee replacement). All a waste of money, but this chap I was literally running round afterwards as a 15yo. 25 years ago now. I have to stop and think about which knee was exploded.

        You're in Dundee, bit of a mission but hop on a train, bail at Haslemere, jump in the minicabs waiting, and you're there in 10mins. Potentially life-changing. Once the COVID-19 faff is over, do it!

      2. chivo243 Silver badge

        Re: spazmalgon

        I wonder if this would work for the extreme leg cramps I experience several times a week? I have to scramble out of bed hopping like a madman and stumble down stairs and hobble around until it releases. The missus doesn't need me hopping around the bedroom...

        1. Muscleguy

          Re: spazmalgon

          Possibly, a recent idea about muscle cramps is that, at least in some cases it can be caused by the brain overheating. Are you one of these people who habitually wears a hat by any chance? If so, stop, stop now. Cool down your bedroom, get firmer pillows.

        2. W.S.Gosset

          Re: spazmalgon

          (the brain heat thing's new to me. ta, I'll look into that.)

          But sudden cramps, especially in bed, are very often associated with nutritional deficit relative to what you're doing, especially minerals esp.magnesium, but also some vitamins.

          I'd recommend trying a monster multivitamin+minerals. Best I found in England (and a good price) was Quest's -- not just in terms of strength, also it's "Super Once A Day Time Release" so you get it trickling in over 24hrs rather than a sudden surge which is then promptly pushed out your kidneys. One of those with dinner, see how you're doing in a week or three.

          On a quickly symptomatic basis though: I've heard & read several people cite for night cramps and restless legs syndrome, placing a block of camphor at the foot of your bed (between the sheets).

          If you've got a cramp NOW, white tiger balm is the best we ever found for anything muscular AND works for joints too. (Not the red: its less effective plus it stains your clothes.)

          Try also wtb'ing the tendons linking the cramping muscle to the joints -- it's possible the sudden cramp was triggered by the Golgi organs misfiring. (not the intracellular Golgis; the joint-protecting muscle-controlling ones.)

      3. Muscleguy

        Re: spazmalgon

        I don’t need anything. See I’m an ageing runner who works out generally to keep on my feet. Got an iron hard core, including great slab like back muscles. The spasm was because I had a malady and took to a chair during the day. Usually I use a standing desk. My back began to hurt but I paid it no heed. Big mistake.

        You see the amazing, frightening degree of twist in my lumbar spine was part due to those very strong back muscles, when they spasmed they took hold of my spine with lots and lots of power. The other part was that I have unusually loose joints. Got one less of those in each hand because of it, moved too much.

        It was irresistible force meets very flexible spine. The Ortho doc was impressed both by the degree of twist and how big my back muscles are.

        I am coming out of a nasty bout of viral meningitis and my back hasn’t bothered me. Slight twinge start of the week. I did some mild exercises, it went away.

        I don’t need no private doc. Besides I’m a scientific specialist in muscle. Which means a good understanding of joints and bones and tendons too. I can and do, look after myself. That spasm I couldn’t handle. It will not repeat. Forewarned is forearmed.

        BTW you know the yoga move Downward Dog? Do one of those then keeping your arms straight lower your thighs to the ground, then up again and repeat several times. Contracts and Relaxes the back muscles. The former keeps them strong, the latter stops them spasming. I recommend it.

        Good luck with the knee. BTW lots of knee trouble is caused either by overstriding (move your hips forward, lean forward slightly, especially downhill) and/or walking with the knees too far apart. We often adopt that with injured knees because we feel unstable. It makes things worse.

        The muscles hold the joints together and in the right orientation so that thick cartilage faces thick cartilage. Work on your quads and keep your hamstrings stretched.

        1. W.S.Gosset

          Re: spazmalgon

          Ah! Yes I know that syndrome exactly: mate of mine was 2nd Dan (our club: 7-10yrs of training min.4days/wk), a few years of nontraining later he was sitting on a wheely office chair playing catch with his new son, turned & twisted & lunged to quickly grab an errant ball, one lower back muscle flinched: it ripped that vertebra so badly sideways, he blew the disk. !! Good luck with it, mate.

          But Quincy is not a doc. He's also cheaper than a physio: per-visit (£30 mid-90s, think its up around 60-70 now), but more importantly per-entiretreatment. Typically: only 1 visit! Physio/doc/etc always a series. And based on what you write here about your knowledge and attitude, he's (& I) the same. But he's a freak!

          And a top bloke. Looks like a little chuckling Buddha, in his tiny little treatment room looking out over his giant zen garden (>50m), and really knows his shit. Does this odd diagnostic till he's worked out what's going on, then up on the table you go and 10mins later you're amazed. Re odd diagnostic: his conclusion re me was: yes your knee's buggered, there's nothing I can do about that, that's just going to take time to heal (it has! completely!). But that's not what's causing the pain. The real problem is your neck. "Right. I've done my money here," I thought to myself. 10 mins on the table later --just odd stretchings and pressures and twistings and so on-- he said right jump up and touch your toes. I bruised the heels of both palms on the floor -- all the years-long growing restrictions had vanished. Freak!

          Turned out a lot of growing compensatings had actually prolonged and in fact created the problem.

          He finally has a website now, check it out:

          http://quincyrabotpractice.co.uk/my-approach-to-treating-back-pain-and-sports-injuries/

          That photo of him on the front page is exactly right. He also teaches Qui Gong but actually understands it so theres some useful stuff. (I never slipped on ice again; I only went to 1 session.) Lotta people see him every coupla years because feeling like a teenager is addictive -- we call it our MOT.

          > Downward Dog

          I do indeed. I also recommend you try Eagle, as this will untwist any muscles/spine creeping back towards the injured state, due to the myriad diagonal support muscles being worked (check out Greys Anatomy (the book) to grok just how friggin many there are!). Also Rabbit (is that the right name? Kneel with legs together, sit bum to heels, grab your heels, chin to chest and cu-uuuurl forehead to touch floor/knees. Grip and pull hard on your heels for balance as you roll curl as far further as you can. Only do this well warmed-up! eg, end of yoga session. If you're flexible and latterly under-exercised, youll likely hear various little pops and spits as your back muscles and back straighten out magnificently.)

          ... a pleasure "corresponding" with a like-minded chap, btw.

          Good luck/speed with your back re-sorting-out!

  8. Blackjack Silver badge

    [Nor is there anyone who loves or pursues or desires to obtain pain of itself, because it is pain, but occasionally circumstances occur in which toil and pain can procure him some great pleasure.]

    So painkiller them?

    Heh.

    HAHAHA!

  9. Stuart Halliday
    Holmes

    It's a well known tactic used by Lawyers.

    If you have a unreasonable statement in a contract, you can deliberately leave it in and hope the other party doesn't spot it.

    If you wish to break a contract, you simply raise the statement and the judge rules the whole contract null and void.

    Not usual for it to be so obvious though....

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