Here's a headline we'll run this century, mark our words: Alien invaders' AI found on Mars searching for signs of life NASA is developing a Mars rover AI system that can sift through sensor data for signs of life on the Red Planet – and send relevant readings to Earth all by itself. A team led by NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center devised the machine-learning algorithms as part of a proof-of-concept study to show a future Martian trundle bot …
There’s more chance of finding intelligent life on Mars than on present day Earth. ..... Jurassic Hermit
One could also ask, Jurassic Hermit, if there is a greater chance of finding intelligent Martian life on present day Earth? And would such a discovery be terrifying and terrorising or engaging and enlightening?
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Alien life on earth however would neither be able to fathom the logic of Brexit, or Populism. ..... Cliff Thorburn
One must surely then correctly imagine and conclude they would realise the intelligence used to justify and support such movements as being illogical ...... with its leading voices and back-office wannabe emperors and empresses* unworthy of direct and/or exclusive smarter future alien engagement whenever earthed parties are firmly stuck in that very particular and peculiar self-defeating rut.
What happens then, logically, is others lead with smarter forces drivering from different spaces unavailable to failed established status quo sources for whenever intelligence abhors a vacuum, such is only natural and therefore fully to be expected ‽ .
* aka mass media puppets and their deep dark web networking state and non-state actor controllers?
And as for those others following and leading, .... perhaps deeply involved and heavily into the leading and/or trailing and trialing of daily 0day events with all manner of matters presented for/with assorted super-talented weirdos and misfits with odd skills to exercise in/with masterly commands with/in exquisite controls.
Done extra especially well, IT Renders Practically Almighty Invincible Power with Inexhaustible Invisible Energy to Future Dedicated Servers of Almighty Invincible Services.
Do you think you know if Boris and the Gang would be able to fcuk up any of that should it be easily made immediately readily available for them to explore and exercise/employ and enrich??
And yes, that is a real live serious question of current extant government forces with more than just basic intelligence sources for such an advantage is always for sale and/or purchase and Lead-Lease ACTion, and it would be a crying shame and not at all right to not freely avail them of the opportunities open to them to invest in with public resources and private know-how before very similar offerings to many who may reside further abroad in foreign lands which can initially appear as if an alien space place with their own different way of communicating in strange tongues and dialects with alternate languages and enlightening texts.
:-) Now, in any language, anywhere, El Reg, is that easily classed a Universal Scoop and it would also be an Advanced Beta Testing of your very own Quantum Communications Leaping Abilities and Facilities for Future AI Utility. Is there anything there not to like and love and terrifying you?
Ask ... for there are always inevitably answers available almost immediately.
Given the difficulty that we're having even getting hold of the Russia Report let alone reading it, it's quite likely that we'd never realise that Martians were in fact on our planet. Maybe Covid-19 came from farther afield than we anticipated.
Send an robot to Mars with loads of sensors to do science stuff. Collect bucket loads of data from those sensors. Then, whittle the data down to what you think you might be looking for via a black box algorithm. Dump the rest and send back the Readers Digest version of the data. Sounds just the job.
How do you think the data gathering at CERN works? Because that is exactly how the experiments that found the Higgs deal with the vast quantities of data coming off. At this point it looks as if the would-be Mars explorers are hoping to make use of technology that currently runs in big racks, miniaturised to a practical Rover.
Would it not make sense to have a separate craft to sort/store transmit the data?
If a stationary lander (or orbiter) can act as a server with occasional uplink, that would free up the rover to do more rovery things.
You could even use some of the current orbiters as comms satellites for when the rover is over the horizon.
I think given the number of probes and craft we will be sending to Mars over the next 10-20 years, it would be worth the investment in setting up a high bandwidth satellite comms/storage network. With the last hop to Earth being a "Big Dish" or possibly even a laser. Want more transmit power? Put more solar on it.
The Perseverance rover, like other rovers, communicates to the orbiters Odyssey, MRO (Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter), and MAVEN (Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution) which then communicate to NASA's Deep Space Network consisting of a suite of powerful radio receivers.
Lasers are a future technology being researched but are years away.
Go boffins!
Of course they can, FFS. They are just having to scale up. I mean, everyone remembers Curiosity and the "complicated" landing of burn through atmosphere, use parachutes then a rocket powered skycrane, but how many remember that that was actually just a step change from Spirit and Opportunitys landing methods, ie burn through the atmosphere, deploy parachute, inflate the ball cocoon and then a final rocket powered declaration before dropping them the remainder of the way to bounce!
Parachutes on Mars are a done deal. Trying out new materials and designs to cope with different load patterns and payload masses is what happens here on Earth
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NASA do like a challenge. Why don't they send a probe to Venus equipped with a video feed fed to an off the shelf facial recognition system like those employed by police forces.
Extending that to the full body, the flaw is when it comes across sunbathing triple-breasted venetian. The training data says 2 points...
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Don't be so bigoted. Some Venusians have three breasts, some five. There's no need to highlight the difference, as it offends those with seven breasts.
And it's Venusians, not Venetians. Unless you're talking about people from Venice. In which case they'd be 'third generation Venetian Venusians'.
But aren't most discoveries made by observing something that is NOT expected. If you automatically discard data that does not fit a pre-conceived idea, you run the risk of missing something truly amazing or unique!
As happened with the detection of the ozone hole, you mean? NASA could have detected the ozone hole from satellite measurements, but the relevant measurements were discarded as "out of range". It took scientists at BAS making ground-based measurements as part of a long-term survey to find the ozone hole. But if NASA hadn't made assumptions about what the data should look like, they would have beaten Farman et al to it.
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IF parachutes work on Mars (they do), why havent they EXACTLY sniifed out the composition of the air / atmosphere and its density ( oxygen, nitrogen,others) to get a true assessment of each percentage and then devise the right materials for parachutes / rockets to be used.This info will also be useful in determining the chances of finding life (as we know it) in the short term.
Will save alot of money too with one comprehensive AI probe and be done with.
Since we are (mostly) all intelligent life here we are biased to intelligent life, but intelligence looks like an evolutionary dead end.
Cockroaches existed before us, will survive us, and they haven't caused any other extinction.
Extraterrestrial life may have arrived on earth and ignored humanity to communicate instead with more sensible species.
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