Data cops order Ireland to delete 3.2m records after ID card wheeze ruled to be 'unlawful' Ireland's Data Protection Commission (DPC) has ordered the country to delete 3.2 million people's personal data after ruling that its national ID card scheme was "unlawful from a data-processing point of view". Speaking to the Irish Times, data protection commissioner Helen Dixon described the scheme as "unlawful" and has …
ID cards keep coming back, but whoever is in opposition opposes them. Not because they hate the idea, but because it's not their particular implementation.
What many forget is that it was primarily the LibDems that quashed the last Tory attempt during the coalition.
Or maybe the commentator is not a power hungry sociopath (and so unlikely to get into parliament)
Even at low levels (councils etc.) vast majority of wannabe politicians are out for power, personal gain (and often gain for their friends / family). A few people go into politics for honourable reasons, but not many.
.. Or many they could not swear an allegiance to the queen (the reason Sinn Fein members cannot take part in UK parliament as (obviously) they will not swear that oath).
Its a cliche , but most of those going into politics are fundamentally unsuitable for the role, but those that would be suitable want nothing to do with it.
the Dunning Kruger is strong with wannabe PMs!
"Even at low levels (councils etc.) vast majority of wannabe politicians are out for power, personal gain (and often gain for their friends / family). A few people go into politics for honourable reasons, but not many."
Bullshit. Easy to say, very easy to say. Very popular comment amongst those who don't know any better. You have no clue, no proof, no way of proving that whatsoever. You may have a negative perception, it's not right and it's not fact so don't say it as if it were.
"I expect there are quite a few like him and all of those that are are only on it for their political career."
I fully expect there are. Generalisations are damaging and ignorant, they help no-one and make those that do try and help people for a living (rather than something much less public facing and scrutinised) wonder why they bothered. Then we end up with even more useless people as you describe.
"Easy to say, very easy to say ... You have no clue, no proof, no way of proving that whatsoever"
Well said that man. I have yet to see any evidence that a single weasel has ever entered politics for honourable reasons.
And I've been around a long time. A terribly, terribly long time.
This is ID cards pure and simple despite them claiming it wasn't.
The cost of this at 0.6719 Pg (60m) and counting completely overshadows any fraud prevention savings so no reason for it there.
Its still required for claiming the dole so poor people have to have it.
No doubt the minister Regina Doherty will try to push some laws through to shore things up.
She had said the PSC card was "mandatory not compulsory". Ah lawyers, don't you just love them.
Hardly any wonder Politicians are held in such low esteem.
Without legislation or debate the Job Seeking stuff has been privatised, outsourced, to almost fake Irish Companies that are mostly UK owned. The Job Path stuff is produced in Yorkshire and you have to answer toxic questions or your benefits are stopped. If the private company makes any complaint about you, the benefits are automatically stopped without warning, though a phone call to Social Welfare may get them re-instated.
I do wish Ireland would stop copying Toxic UK schemes. See also Comreg cf Ofcom and Irish Financial Regulator cf UK and Anglo Irish Bank etc.
Yes, it is a work of fiction...
But when you read it, you realise it's horrifyingly close to the truth.
(I was disappointed by the ending - seems to me that it could have gone on for a few more chapters. It felt to me like Eggers simply got tired of writing it)
I've recently listened to a UK government official telling us in a meeting how the UK is focused on the organization that called the meeting (unlike the EU, apparently). Suddenly I hear murmurs in the room: "Ireland, Ireland". I look up at his slide. Yes, he did illustrate that statement with a map of UK which... included all of Ireland.
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https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/river-liffey-to-be-dyed-green-for-paddys-day-tourism-chiefs-say-932263.html
Apparently Dublin's river will be dyed green next year i.e. 2020 for St Patrick's Day... which Chicago has been doing since 1962.
I think of Ireland as celebrating the holiday with dignity. I have never been to Ireland.
It's worth noting that proroguing parliament is technically royal perogative and the queen is within her rights to refuse and tell him to do his damn job.
Not that I'm saying that Monarchy is better than democracy of course.
Although for the rabid brexiteers out there, democracy is a mandatory part of being in the EU, so if we switch back to good old-fashioned monarchy then we'll get kicked out anyway.
Maybe we could form the European Kindgom Pact with our old friend the Pope.
If you want to see a good implementation of an ID card, look at the Dutch. They are obsessive about making sure the data in the ID card is for the stated purpose only, for exactly the reasons a comment in one of the referenced articles mentioned... the Nazi regime's raiding of town hall records to (ex)terminate the Jews. The Dutch learned from their history. We Brits don't seem to. Ever.
We also already have a de facto ID card... the driving licence. While it's assumed *everyone* has one (or obtains one as soon as possible), it's not the case. In Germany, everyone aged 16 or above is by law required to have either an ID card (Personalausweis) or a passport, but it's not compulsory to *carry* it with you at all times. So, given that the UK has a 'Citizen Card' which *is* acceptable as a form of ID (particularly for those under the age of 16, at which point a driving licence is assumed to have been given), I don't particularly have any objection to an ID card.
The whole biometric data argument trotted out against ID cards falls down for all of those who have a UK passport, because it - surprise surprise - contains biometric data. Yet those protesting the most about ID cards are the ones who love their little (cheap) weekends in Magaluf, Gran Canaria and Limassol, for which they... oh, right, need their passports!
Ironically, during the UK Presidency of the EU in 2005 a decision was made to: "Agree common standards for security features and secure issuing procedures for ID cards (December 2005), with detailed standards agreed as soon as possible thereafter. In this respect, the UK Presidency put forward a proposal for the EU-wide use of biometrics in national identity cards". So, funnily enough, *we* were the ones to propose ID cards with biometrics, and yet *we* are the ones who are consistently saying "yeah nah". The mind boggles.
... collected and analysed by the data businesses that we all sign-up to in those contracts we do not do due diligence on.
Even bigger concern when the data is lifted from said companies with them not realizing it and remaining in denial so that there share price does not get hit. ;)
"The scrapping of the scheme has close parallels with UK attempts at a national ID card,"
The scheme hasn't been scrapped.
It will still be used for social welfare-related purposes - jobseekers payments, pensions, free travel scheme etc. - which was the original remit before the government went mad.
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