US can try extraditing Julian Assange next year, rules UK court WikiLeaks' Julian Assange will face a full extradition hearing on 24 February next year, Westminster Magistrates' Court ruled this morning. The Chief Magistrate of England and Wales, Emma Arbuthnot, ordered that a five-day court hearing takes place to decide whether Assange should be extradited to the US. The 47-year-old …
Does that make Sajid Javid "the Hood"?
I think we should be told if our UK Home Secretary is an arch villain, let alone someone else's puppet.
The formal address for Camilla at first meeting is "Her Royal Highness The Duchess of Cornwall", and thereafter as "Ma'am" (Capitalized as the definite article). The initial address of Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, Ireland and the British Dominions beyond the Seas Queen, Defender of the Faith is: "Your Majesty", and thereafter also as "Ma'am" (To rhyme with "jam", and not "palm" - Apparently she is not amused by the "jam" form).
Exposing wrongdoing by the USA. Wrongdoing that none of the perpetrators have served time for.
They want to lock him up forever in the hope that it will scare anyone else from exposing further wrongdoing.
That Assange is a bit of an ass has got nothing to do with it.
Not sure about the legal niceties but IMHO Assange's "collateral damage" / "if they were on the other side then they deserved to die" failure to redact names and consequent deaths of many high-minded and brave patriots around the world deserves everything Trump can find to throw at him.
Anonymous coward because I have a life that I have not yet blown.
"high minded and brave patriots around the world".
[citation needed].
The ones we know about seem to be a collection of off-the-wall sociopaths like Oliver North, with the exception of Valerie Plame who was outed by...er...the US Republican Party.
Some of the sources from the Afghan war logs were just ordinary people living in villages who were giving info about Taleban minefields they wanted clearing so their kids didn't get their legs blown off. The logs gave names and GPS coordinates of their houses. Which Assange didn't bother to redact, "because it was too difficult".
I think you forgot the Joke icon, if you were serious you should note that even your prosecutor only said he put lives at risk, if they could provide direct correlation that Assange's actions had resulted in one death there would be a special rendition team trying to abseil into Belmarsh from a black helicopter.
Remind us the wrongdoing he 'exposed' in this case?
If I remember right, it was a bunch of cables no-one wanted (and that manning had tried to shop around for more than 3 months) because they had nothing of interest in them, and a video of an event that Reuters saw 3 years earlier when covering their own guys death and which got its own chapter in a book released a year before.
Basically nothing was 'revealed' that wasn't already well known, or a complete 'nothingburger'.
"Enemy Of The State". Its probably not spelled out as such in the Federal penal code (although the Orange One has used the term on several occasions) but I daresay we'll cook something up just for him.
The good news is that what he's being accused of is effectively "being a newspaper" and a number of news publications, including our local rag (Los Angeles Times), have noted this. There is actually a credible precedent for what Assange did in the Pentagon Papers case from a generation ago**. The Justice Department will argue that a website and print media are two completely different things but the media isn't buying it -- a favorable result for the Justice Department would threaten all US news outlets that failed to toe the Party line. Whatever happens we're in for a show trial; its not going to be a fair trail at all because the issue doesn't need to be decided by making a victim of an individual but we need to torture him "pour encourager les autres".
The UK's Home Secretary is a fairly good example of a servile public official who knows who his real bosses are. He probably needs to impress to help guarantee his future apres-politics.
(**This was a very similar situation where a the publication of embarrassing material on the misconduct of US troops was prosecuted under the Espionage Act, the prosecution ultimately failing in the Supreme Court.)(Which set a precedent which is what makes persecuting Assange even more obscene -- they're out to overturn this precedent. Sieg Heil!)
"In the magistrates' courts you call the judges sir or madam. "
In the magistrates' courts you can probably get away with calling a judge "mate" or anything else. They'll just be there as a member of the public, a witness, possibly - because they're all lawyers and some only sit as judges part-time - they might be acting as counsel (they may even be the accused). The folks on the bench are magistrates.
The age range is larger than you would expect, the Profumo affair is quite famous historically. When the affair happened my dad was only just discovering women and I wasn't even a twinkle in his eye. By the time it entered the dictionary of quotations, I was probably busy discovering Lego.
I always thought that Julian Assange looked like a space alien. Now he admits to his unearthly origin!!
(I for one welcome our swimming pool-immersed cocooned extraterrestrial overlords, and remind them that I can come over and clean their pool each week, for a modest fee.)
Is it so that the courts can channel surf and get through as many cases as possible in the fastest possible time, at the cheapest possible cost.
Is it because British fear an assassination attempt by some rogue ... *ponder* ... persons or people, or an abduction to a black site.
Or something else ?
Is it because British fear an assassination attempt by some rogue ... *ponder* ... persons or people, or an abduction to a black site.
Why would they fear that, they were complicit with the Monty Burns state in rendition or at the very least, aI'm just popping out for a fag, and didn't see anything.
I'm just popping out for a fag
I wouldn't say that in the US...
I know, such a single-entendre bunch, I mean, do they know how much sitcom humour they've just thrown away by not also having it possibly refer to a) ciggies b) small sticks of wood c) odd pork derived foodstuff?
"I know, such a single-entendre bunch, I mean, do they know how much sitcom humour they've just thrown away by not also having it possibly refer to a) ciggies b) small sticks of wood c) odd pork derived foodstuff?"
And to the frayed ends of material or rope. Fag ends are the frayed (useless) ends of rope or cloth. Fag ends for a cigarette stub came before the cigarette became "a fag" it's a back-formation since a fag end obvious comes from a fag.
There could be two reasons for the video link. It has been done to save money, as transporting prisoners around and stopping them from runing away does cost money. Or in his specific case it could be because he missed his last hearing, and the reason given was that he was ill. So take your pick.
My understanding from a friend who practices criminal law is that it is about saving a considerable sum of money each day by not transporting a large number of remanded individuals from Holloway (North London) or Belmarsh (South East London) to the main Westminster magistrates courts and then having to transport them all back again at the end of the day.
him getting granted bail when his current term for bail jumping runs out .....
Why not? Various government depts. still get given a budget for the next hairbrained IT project despite wasting billions on previous failed attempts.
Can't think he really enjoyed the last major part of the decade in the tiny consulates confines. Everyone should have a chance to not repeat mistakes + cheaper for the taxpayer to not incarcerate at considerable expense someone who's not an immediate danger to the public.
Of course he did. He got to be in the public eye, and get to claim 'persecution'. If he hadn't run away and face the swedish court, odds are that if he'd been convicted, that would have been his 'career' and his fame over. He'd be Bill Cosby'd
So between that, and living in a small space kinda reminiscent of his upbringing in the Great White Brotherhood (a cult he was part of in his youth) and then the traveler lifestyle he had in his teens.
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Er. I think most were saying he was *less* likely to be extradited to the US from Sweden - not that the US wouldn't seek his extradition at all. At least, that's the impression I got.
Perhaps someone who cares could perform a text analysis on the various comments to give a definitive* answer?
*subject to 'alternative facts'...
Isn't there a British law that they can't extradite someone if they will likely face torture and/or death? Since Assange has been openly threatened with 'assassination' by several American politicians and is no doubt headed for an unfair trail directly at Guantanamo Bay I would think he has a strong argument against extradition.
However, we will see if the Brits uphold UK law or the US version of 'the law'.
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