That's the trouble with them Weatherspoon dinner specials - one minute goat head next minute nun left
'Nun' drops goat head on pavement outside Cheltenham 'Spoons
Christians enjoy reminding the heathens, atheists and sinners who share this world that they're all going to Hell. Whether it's by peppering conversation with Bible quotes or just a little smug smile, we know what they're thinking. For those closer to God, however, holding one's tongue can sometimes get too much. One den of …
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019 13:48 GMT Bassey
Alternative interpretation
You are assuming some malicious intent which seems unfair. The Nun could simply have been taking a Goat's head to her preferred place of worship for a perfectly normal religious ceremony which happened to required the use of a goats head. She dropped it on the way past Weatherspoons and, having realised her mistake, popped back to collect it. Nothing weird, awful or nefarious to see here. Please carry on with your ordinary lives.
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Thursday 24th January 2019 01:50 GMT W.S.Gosset
Re: Alternative interpretation
Quite.
I read this story as simple embarrassment, myself. She thought she was meeting people at "The Goats Head" so came prepared, realised on arrival it was "The Moon Under Water", panicked, and fled.
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Lucky it wasn't my old local down in Chelsea: "The Goat in Boots". That'd've been a bugger to get into a duffel bag, kicking and bleating and lashing out with hobnails.
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Thursday 24th January 2019 02:33 GMT David 132
Re: Alternative interpretation
Lucky it wasn't my old local down in Chelsea: "The Goat in Boots". That'd've been a bugger to get into a duffel bag, kicking and bleating and lashing out with hobnails.
I'd have interpreted that one as encouragement to release the aforementioned goat in my nearest high-street pharmacy, but maybe that's just me. Would certainly liven up the queue at the eye-tests counter.
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019 14:14 GMT Chris King
Okay, so you linked to a movie, and didn't even bother with the obligatory Father Ted scene...
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Thursday 24th January 2019 10:10 GMT TRT
Re: Proves that Cheltenham
I have such fond memories of assembling things like this alongside my grandfather. He was a short man.
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Friday 25th January 2019 09:48 GMT MJI
Re: Proves that Cheltenham
One of the best in the area.
That said I also knew the staff of Cotswold Models.
Their tiny little staff room was decorated in pictures young women sent in to them.
Good old days, two decent model shops in Gloucester and one in Cheltenham.
Used to be 2 in Cheltenham and CMC shop manager was ex Gloucester Fletchers.
Nowadays it is mail order from the producers or a couple of big sellers (including CMC).
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Friday 25th January 2019 04:53 GMT Brad Ackerman
Re: Proves that Cheltenham
As far as the high-street chain pubs go I'm partial to Copa. For non-chain, The Gloucester Old Spot is in town, Seven Tuns is worth a drive, and plenty more.
On the gripping hand, Wagamama stays in business despite 288 being roughly eleventy million times better, so there's no accounting for taste.
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019 15:46 GMT Eddy Ito
Christians enjoy reminding the heathens, atheists and sinners who share this world that they're all going to Hell.
I've noticed that. Here they're supposed to be all new testament, forgiving, etc. yet they still have a need for hell. Why would a forgiving deity maintain a place for eternal damnation? It just doesn't jibe.
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019 18:12 GMT Adair
Well, I've checked and I'm definitely a Christian and if this statement is intended to be taken seriously then it is utter bollocks.
First of all there's this issue: All/most/many/some/a few Christians enjoy... Take your pick, which in reality do you suspect is closest to the truth? I've been a card carrying Christian for over forty years and have mixed with Christians around the world - I reckon 'some' would probably cover the reality, maybe even tending towards 'a few'.
The there's the theological question: Are 'heathens, atheists and sinners who share this world... all going to Hell?' Short answer: No, not if we take seriously Jesus teaching. To start with, we're all 'sinners', so no one is ruled out of a toasty afterlife, and see below as to why being a 'heathen' or 'atheist' is rather beside the point.
If we change the criteria to: Are arrogant, selfish, greedy, violent and hate fuelled people who deny the place of love in their lives, and deny it to others also going to Hell? Well, it certainly doesn't look good for people like that; the flag we fly under, whether 'Christian' 'Satanist', 'Atheist', or simply 'Human being' doesn't really matter.
I'd still love to know what the fake nun was doing dropping a goats head outside Weatherspoons was all about. The symbolic significance is a bit opaque.
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019 19:32 GMT Eddy Ito
That's just it, it's not very forgiving for anyone to have a "toasty afterlife". The old testament is different with the jealous, vengeful, grapes of wrath, fire, brimstone, etc. has a reason for a hell but the kinder, gentler, and most importantly forgiving new testament absolutely doesn't.
No matter, I agree the goat's head thing is a bit odd unless a game of buzkashi went a bit awry.
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019 19:48 GMT Adair
Jesus' used 'Gehenna' - the rubbish dump outside the city walls of Jerusalem, where the fires were alwsys burning - as an evocative illustration of what happens to what is not fit for life in ybe presence of yhe source of life and love.
It seems that whatever label we walk under - self-imposed or otherwise - we all have a chance to find out and put into practice the things that really matter and transform mere existance into life 'in all its fullness' - as the good book puts it. If 'hell' exists, it is a self-imposed consequence, no one to blame but ourselves.
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019 21:40 GMT Flocke Kroes
Flag matters according to the bible
Apparently the rule is a good person who has never heard of Jesus can go to heaven but people who have been told and reject the teaching go to hell no matter how good they are. For some reason it is fine for missionaries to send good people to hell but naughty them to send Christians to heaven.
As I am an atheist I believe I cannot send anyone to heaven. Is it really wise to try to convince me otherwise? I would really love to sell tickets for an eternity in paradise - dated after the purchaser's death. I am convinced such behaviour would be fraud. If I got found guilty who else would need a good lawyer?
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Thursday 24th January 2019 07:50 GMT Adair
Re: Flag matters according to the bible
It depends on whose 'rule' you listen to, but it depends even more about what we decide 'love' is all about.
As far as Jesus' teaching goes, it seems pretty clearly to boil down to 'those who put themselves in hell are those who refuse to love'. With the rider that it is important to be wise about what love is.
Without being an exhaustive definition a fairly reasonable one is provided by Paul in 1Corinthians 13.1-13; and for an actual example, the life and teaching of Jesus is taken to be definitive by Christians, but plenty of other examples are available - hopefully even amongst our own families and friends.
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Friday 25th January 2019 09:59 GMT batfink
"We're all sinners"
This is exactly the point. We're not "all sinners". "Sinning" is a construct of your religion, and in general seems to mean "acting outside the strictures we want to apply to you". Therefore, none of this applies to the rest of us.
Even within Catholic history, there's been argument about the doctrine of original sin. Bede (unreliable of course) talks about the crushing of the Pelagian Heresy, by the usual religious method of killing people. The whole point of the crushing of that heresy was to make sure that the church controlled "access to heaven", and by extension, people's lives.
So, please feel free to live your life as you like, but don't try to apply your narrow standards to everyone else.
Of course, this makes me wonder what random goat-beheaders also class as "sin"...
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019 17:19 GMT Anonymous Coward
Pigs heads...
...are dinner for some.
My wife and her friends drove 100km (each way) to collect a (huge) pig head. Cost a fair amount too, more than $40. Brought it home on the front passenger seat, popped it on the 'dirty kitchen' (outdoor) fireplace, and cooked it for dinner. I was strict vegetarian that evening.
I'm not sure if they eat goat heads too. I've never seen it.
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019 18:17 GMT Scroticus Canis
Re: I'm not sure if they eat goat heads too. I've never seen it. - Oh Yes
Go into any South African butchers and ask for a "smiley". It'll be a skinned sheep or goat head depending on locale. Cheek meat and the tongue are supposed to be good eating.
I only ever used them for dog food, boil it till the teeth fall out.
Oooo matching icon :)
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Thursday 24th January 2019 11:08 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Pigs heads...
Mannish water is a Jamaican goat head soup. It is believed to be an aphrodisiac
(hence the name of the Stone's 'Goat's Head Soup' album, which was recorded in Jamaica)
https://www.jamaicancookery.com/2017/11/jamaican-mannish-watergoat-head-soup.html
https://www.newsamericasnow.com/caribbean-recipe-of-the-week-goat-head-soup/
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Thursday 24th January 2019 02:18 GMT W.S.Gosset
DEFINITELY not 90 years old
>It seems we will never know what truly happened that Saturday night beyond someone dropping a slab of offal on the pavement, and someone else having to pick it up.
Someone creating a mess and expecting someone else to magically sort it out?
Gotta be a Millennial.
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