So is this the Craigslist that allegedly hosted ads for child sex slaves and did nothing about it or a different one?
This time, it's personals: Craigslist dumps lonely-hearts section, blames anti-trafficking laws
Craigslist has axed its personals ad section after US Congress passed an anti-sex-trafficking law. Bosses at the California-headquartered classified ads board said they will be subject to legal action under the new law if or when the hookup section of the website is used by human traffickers to advertise sex work. They don't …
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Friday 23rd March 2018 19:49 GMT Anonymous Coward
"So is this the Craigslist that allegedly hosted ads for child sex slaves [...]"
Which should have made it easy for law enforcement to get to the people behind such trade. Now they can say "we can't see any potentially illegal activity - move along".
Then they will have to go back to street corner tip-offs and trying to penetrate the Dark Web.
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Friday 23rd March 2018 20:45 GMT Donn Bly
re: outside the USA
Perhaps you missed the article earlier this week when it was revealed that the US has now codified its longstanding practice of ignoring borders when it comes to websites and data storage, so that it doesn't run into a situation again like it did with Microsoft when it demanded that MS turn over the data stored in Ireland without asking Ireland for permission first.
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Friday 23rd March 2018 20:49 GMT Donn Bly
Chilling Effects
This law is scary stupid. The way it reads, they could go after any US assets of Mozilla because it "facilitates" access to prostitution because the Firefox web browser was used
Yes, prostitutes and their pimps posted ads on Craigslist just like they do everywhere else that allows users to post unvetted ads. On Craigslist users would flag them so they would be taken down within hours of them going up (or their competitors would do so in order to reduce competition). The system worked. Now the traffickers will just move to other sections (professional services? domestic labor?) -- until those sections will go away too.
Unless things change, this law has many chilling effects on unmoderated user-generated content. With this one exemption to the liability shield they have effectively gutted all of the protections.
All someone has to do is create a sockpuppet account, post a fake ad, and the entire site can be taken down with the operators in jail.
The first time they use this law to take down a site, every free classified site in the US will go dark shortly afterwards.
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Saturday 24th March 2018 08:02 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Chilling Effects
Oh please.
I use other forums that are (in)famous for unfettered free speech, and even they have moderators to police the most obnoxious morons and the occasional pedo. Even the *chans have mods. If these sites you speak of can't afford to do the same, they don't have a viable business model.
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Monday 26th March 2018 07:08 GMT YetAnotherLocksmith
Re: Chilling Effects
There's no shield though, and no time limit. One troll posts a false listing, reports it to the FBI, and the site gets shut down, and any US parties are at high risk of arrest.
Get everyone to report some congressmen after you've backed their Facebook pages and hidden a backdated post, ok?
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Tuesday 27th March 2018 14:47 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Chilling Effects
This isn't the UK. There's nothing to fear unless you intentionally violate the intent of the law. The troll, on the other hand, could be prosecuted for harrassment, falsely reporting a crime, etc.
Facebook, and certainly Instagram, would have shut down already if there was any basis for this fearmongering.
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Saturday 24th March 2018 02:01 GMT Anonymous Coward
I just checked the East Anglia Craigslist and those sections are still there, just renamed and moved slightly.
Perhaps the removal is US-only or it's a phased worldwide rollout. Apparently Craigslist brought in mobile phone verification last year as a means of eradicating spam and scams, so perhaps this is just the logical next step.
But Craigslist did have a reputation for being a law unto itself and ignoring subpoenas and reasonable law enforcement queries, so perhaps this is karma.
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Saturday 24th March 2018 22:55 GMT Adrian 4
Despite America's idea that their laws don't respect national boundaries, I don't think Congress has much reach in East Anglia (at least, outside the airbases).
Given how many american cities are named after english ones, I wonder if some unusual phone numbers will turn up in the cragslist entries for Boston, Lincs; Washington, Tyne & Wear; Norfolk; etc.
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Sunday 25th March 2018 14:34 GMT Anonymous Coward
I wonder
Anytime I open up Pornhub or the like - for research purposes - I get something along the line of:
"Message from Hot Mom69 2.7 miles away"
Those, well, they seem pretty much what this law is supposed to screen. Are they going away? No great loss, I'd say.
On Tinder, POF etc... you see the occasional "message me hotmilf69@gmail" profile but they usually don't last.
Has this law been thought through? I'd have thought the website should display a wilful tolerance of prostitution posts (a word ignored by iOS autocomplete btw) to be held liable.
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Monday 26th March 2018 15:12 GMT Yet Another Anonymous coward
Re: This'll backfire
will achieve what, exactly?
Get you an approval rating from the US equivalent of Mumsnet / Daily Mail / WI when you run for re-election.
Allow you to brand your political opponents as promoters of child sex trafficking
Provide the first step to banning anonymous comments, then anonymous use of the internet
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