Woah: NetApp is number two in the all-flash market, says IDC

NetApp is now second in the all-flash array market, according to IDC numbers we have been given. The numbers are for vendor revenues and the first quarter of 2016. The figures show NetApp having $181.1m revenues and a 22.8 per cent share, second to EMC’s $245.6m and 30.9 per cent share. It grew its all-flash business 238 per …

[Mr.Nobody]

Let's not forget how much EMC overcharges vs the rest of the industry

So if we are just talking about revenue, its pretty pointless. EMC maybe have shipped less useable storage than others for that amount of money.

[Mr.Nobody]

Re: Let's not forget how much EMC overcharges vs the rest of the industry

It is probably wrong to reply to myself - but really - how does this get a thumbs down? I am just stating two basic facts.

[Ian Ringrose]

This excludes server vendors that have on board raid controllers and often space for at least 10 SDS drives. I expect that DELL,HP,etc would be way up on the charge if servers USED as 100% flush storage were included.

[Anonymous Coward]

"External"

"External" is something that is not internal; hence, not included?

[Man Mountain]

Wouldn't there be a fairly big contribution from Solidfire in the NetApp numbers?

[Anonymous Coward]

No, not according to the investors call. AFF is the bulk

[Anonymous Coward]

So why the need to buy Solidfire ?

[technewsjunkieMI]

Great Job NetApp

Happy to see you guys jumping so close to the top!! Huge fan of Clustered Ontap 8.3 and think the SolidFire addition is a huge win. Can't wait to upgrade to Ontap 9!

[Anonymous Coward]

Discounts for market share

That's what happens when you're churning your current install base with 80-90% off on All Flash FAS... Completely unsustainable, and banking on increased margin later when customers realise the price for capacity upgrades + software + support.

[RollTide14]

Re: Discounts for market share

Valid point....but tell me which AFA company is NOT doing that right now???

[Anonymous Coward]

Re: Discounts for market share

The ones that don't have large install base

[MNDOC]

Shipped and installed all flash capacity is the real metric. Revenue tied to AFA is a shell game - this is a meaningless result. How much are they charging (or "counting") doesn't have much bearing on success in the market - it's how much capacity is being installed by clients.

[Anonymous Coward]

Changed methodology

If you did some digging you would find that IDC changed how they count AFA market share starting June 2016. They now include a broader range of systems which is why you suddenly see this change. They now include more systems that have traditionally been classified as hybrid.

[Anonymous Coward]

Kudos to NetApp

Flash growing at a huge rate but NetApp market share dropping drastically too.

Is someone eating their own lunch or diverting revenue numbers like some mentioned EMC did with Xtremio.

Either Way, NetApp flash portfolio can grow as fast as it wants, fact is, they are shrinking as a company and confusing customers with multiple flash products that just arent quite there regardless of whether they gave Cmode a new name(ontap 9)

[MikeZG]

This is Q1 2016 numbers

It is always hard to compare numbers across vendors that have different fiscal years. The hockey stick always applies to every IT company. Q4 always was and probably always will be the highest revenue number. This being said this was NetApps Q4 and mainly all others Q1. As said it is always hard to compare cause you will never find a common basis but comparing ones best (NTAP) against all others worst doesn't seem to be a fair comparison. Will be interesting to see the Q4 numbers where NetApps Q3 and all others Q4 will be compared. An average or trend line would be best to have.