Triple-murderer prisoner keeps mobile phone in his butt for a week An inmate of an Australian jail is on hunger strike in order to retain possession of a mobile phone he's kept inside his anus for up to a week. The inmate is believed to be Kon Georgiou, a convicted triple-murderer doing a long stretch inside Goulburn Jail's “Super Max” unit. That facility is reserved for the worst of the …
At least it answers Orlowskis recent question - "nope - another is being created in the usual way ready for production as we speak".
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“Frankly, I'm happy for him to rot there until the phone is passed.”
If only the English were as forthright when it came to making statements. In the UK we'd hire a PR firm, to make a statement after consulting lawyers as to whether there were any potential implications to his EU mandated human rights.
I do have an interesting question though. Where's the charger for all these phones in prison ? Or do they standardise the model and have charged batteries smuggled in, I think we should be told.
Equally, if it was here the prisoner would be straight in to the EU court of human rights, and would probably win.
Interestingly, all that's happened is a metal detector has gone "ping", so it may not be a phone (even if that's the most likely item of contraband to make the detector go "ping").
Would you be referring to the EHCR that was set up after WW2 (hoping to prevent more things like the holocaust) that we were instrumental in, and even Russia has signed up to?
True the EU requires members to be signed up to it, but we were, well before we joined the EU.
Seems like someone has believed misinformation from someone with an agenda.
Just like most of the complaints about the EU, things that aren't up to the EU and we have messed up ourselves .(And we are always the only country with that problem too.)
Back on topic - for hunger strikers, perhaps they should just deliver a nice pizza to the cell to test their resolve.
I think Jess is right here, the rights concerned are not from the EU but the European Convention on Human Rights (which was mostly written by a British subject)..
I'm also pretty sure the statement made by the Australian Minister doesn't contravene them and is one ministers in other ECHR countries might make. I think the concern with PC statements is largely a British one.
Unrelated trivia: I believe in Belgium a prisoner had the right to escape but they are not allowed to do anything illegal to facilitate that escape. So they can't knock out a guard, or blow a whole in the wall but they could run away or climb over a fence.
Of course the Australian minister isn't contravening them. Australia isnt party to the ECHR.
This is mainly down to Australia not being in Europe.
Next up, the Human Rights Act 1998 are the laws made to enshrine the ECHR within British laws. I am paraphrasing that bit from the Labour party, they are the ones responsible for creating it as part of their manifesto pledge in the 1997 UK elections.
And of course, it wasn't written by a British subject, but instead by all 12 members of the council of Europe at that time. If it had been written by the British, it would make actual sense.
"British MP and lawyer Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe, the Chair of the Assembly's Committee on Legal and Administrative Questions, was one of its leading members and guided the drafting of the Convention. "
I didn't mean to imply that he was solely responsible.
Australia doesn't have to sign up for one of its citizens to say something which contravenes the convention... but I think you know that.....
you can only contravene an agreement if you have agreed to it. As Australia hasnt agreed to the European Convention for Human Rights then nothing has been contravened.
I used the full title there, just so you know its to do with Europe. Which still doesnt include Australia.
And Maxwell-Fyfe was just part of the process, he didnt "mostly write" it, you know like you said he did in your anon post.
"I do have an interesting question though. Where's the charger for all these phones in prison ? Or do they standardise the model and have charged batteries smuggled in, I think we should be told."
They usually smuggle in a small usb charging cable which they then connect up to the communal wing playstation or whatever to charge their phones ..
Apparently
Lol... They dont have playstations in Australian gaols (That's how you spell "jail" in the Queen's English), or anything else accommodating a USB. But they do have electricity, so they would need the complete charger.
Glad to see there are few jokes about us all being convicts... Some of us are turning the keys now!! :)
I'm more interested in who they can presently convince to hook up that specific phone to a charger :).
Causing a connect spark in that specific environment may amount to "cruel and unusual punishment", though. On the plus side, the wait for spontaneous evacuation would certainly be over..
:)
In all actuality they probably leave them switched OFF most of the time, partly to preserve battery power and partly to avoid detection. If they're only using them for the occasional weekly ET then the battery should last for a couple of months before going flat, by which time it would generally have been found and confiscated - thus meaning they probably wouldn't have any need for a charger.
On another note, they'd probably only leave them on Vibrate if they enjoyed that sort of thing.
Australia - The biggest open nick in the world (obligatory Australian prison joke as told by me to every Australian I have ever known and it is always received with it's intention of being just fun)
Apparently it's an iPhone they asked Tim Cook to remove it so he wrote an open letter about the privacy of apple users and how he respected their collective arseholes and that be would not breach their walled garden,
<Obligitory butt-dialling joke>
Everyone agrees that phones aren't allowed inside the click, including staf. Prisionors will always try to smuggle them in becasue, well, they are useful
So why not install jammers around the building, making them useless? I'm sure there's an obvious reason that I'm missing....
</Obligitory butt-dialling joke>
“The first rule of command is never expect your people to do something you're not prepared to do. This includes asking officers to put on a rubber glove and extract a phone from Georgiou 's bum.”
The UK Cabinet is now terrified of Cameron saying "Actually, I did stick my prick into a dead pig's mouth..."
I guess the earpiece and microphone will be crapped up when it finally exits. To be honest it would be funny if the battery had an exotherm while it was inside.....
more sensibly, why don't prisons just jam mobile phone signals? The technology is cheap enough. The same bit of kit could jam GPS as well, reducing the drone risk
"Because there are more people than prisoners in prisons. They'd also jam the signal for visitors, including lawyers, and more importantly they'd jam it for the guards."
Not relevant, as everyone has their mobile phone taken off them on arrival anyway. You can't carry a mobile phone into a prison, or at least not legally
Because it affects those outside, and probably won't even work.
Jamming is done by transmitting a "wrong" signal that's strong enough to make it impossible to detect legitimate signals.
It is physically impossible to limit the jamming to within prison walls due to actual Physics.
So there will be large areas outside the prison where phone signals are jammed.
On top of that, reliably jamming throughout a complex shaped space with lots of metal and other RF reflectors/absorbers is basically impossible.
There will be "live spots" in the prison where the jamming doesn't work but external signal does.
Most probable places for these is inside some of the the cells...
You can ask the mobile phone companies not to cover the prison. This is more effective but also means that there won't be any mobile signal within a few miles of the prison either.
.. to accomodate some of the idiots who I've had to deal with over a long career of making things happen despite them. It would be the first time the mic would be near the orifice they use to talk from.
Note: I would not stand behind this guy when he coughs :).
The SpareOne as reviewed by el Reg? little large but 15 year standby AA powered battery life.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/09/phone_maker_punts_aa_powered_blower/
The Nokia 8110 without spring loading from the Matrix films, useful keyboard cover and banana shaped,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_8110
or the possibly more comfortable Motorola Razr but unfortunately named
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Razr
I would've thought 8800 or the old 8850 would be be bit easier to accomodate.
I had 8110, and the actual model that was being sold did not have spring loading slider. The later (and larger) 7110 did however have a spring loaded slider. Why, yes I did have that too and the navi-roller was rather nice feature.
He is being victimised...
He is actually a really brilliant researcher who is totally misunderstood.
He has come up with a radical new design for a new methane powered fuel cell to power mobile phones with a continuous recharge cycle. He is testing it in the most secure research facility he could find as it was the only way he can ensure that even CrApple won't steal the design.
Im an expat brit living in Australia and this is the best comments section I have seen for a long while. Upvoted a few.
As for phone blocking it cant be that hard. I dont have anything to do with mobile infrastructure in my job so dont shoot me if these are daft but here are a couple of suggestions
1) Farraday cages that block all signals. Would be easy to 'wallpaper' the inside of the cells with metal mesh then plaster over it. Doesnt require power and is permenant.
2) Set up a low power jammer in the ceiling of each cell, laundry, kitchen, anywhere where the cons are left alone. If they dont exist employ Thales or someone to make one the government loves burning money on silly projects. Guards can go in the guard rooms etc to make calls. http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Your-Own-Cell-Phone-Jammer
3) Setup a local tower in the prison that fakes the real tower and have a whitelist of IMEI numbers (Guards, Lawyers, Visitors)
I'll just fetch my coat.
But we're back to jamming.
Suggest a slight modification to your proposals.
All the screening, PLUS a series of very local femtocells INSIDE the screened areas.
No need to block any connections - just monitor all traffic in and out. Catches inmates, their contacts, AND dodgy staff. I can't see the need for ANYONE inside to have access to a mobile, certainly not in a secure area.
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