back to article Aircon biz fined $1.3m after boss set up attack websites slamming critical punters

No one likes getting negative reviews online, and it's no secret that many business owners try to fudge the system by posting positive reviews of themselves under pseudonyms. But Mechanic's Heating and Air Conditioning – based in Marietta just outside Atlanta, Georgia, in the US – has taken it to a whole new level. The …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Sometimes I wish I'd studied psychology...

    I'm amazed how he can put so much effort into harassing his customers but not put the effort into doing a better job in the first place.

    No doubt this kind of behaviour has a name[1] - perhaps someone can enlighten me?

    [1] A real 'psychology' name, not 'twat', thank-you very much. ;-)

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Sometimes I wish I'd studied psychology...

      Sometimes I wished I hadn't but I did. (Have the the piece of paper from a Russell Group and all that). Now plying my trade in online reputation management and related areas so doubly qualified (or not) to comment. Based on the available information I'm afraid 'Twat' seems to fit the behaviour very well and I can't better it.

      It really is easier to just do a good job than repair a damaged reputation. If he'd have applied his skills with pride he could probably have managed the former and avoided the need for the latter where his skillset is obviously challenged.

    2. Turtle

      @2+2=5 Re: Sometimes I wish I'd studied psychology...

      No doubt this kind of behaviour has a name - perhaps someone can enlighten me?

      "Malignant Narcissism". ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malignant_Narcissism )

      He's a small-scale version of Levi Bellfield, if you follow the annals of crime in the UK.

      (Don't fret about not having studied psychology; there's nothing wrong with having decided to be a mathematician.)

  2. Your alien overlord - fear me

    Sounds to me like he'll be starting a plumbing business soon. Heaven help his customers if he also does their electricity wiring.

    1. KA1AXY

      The Stooges provide an example of what to expect:

      https://vimeo.com/12390592

  3. Lt.Kije

    The really sad thing is that it took so long to shut him down.

    ... justice delayed and all that.

    1. cd

      One reason for the delay (beyond probable political connections) is that the general interpersonal climate of Georgia, esp. Atlanta, tends toward the cruel and retributive, so while the behaviors might seem outrageous to outsiders, they weren't that far beyond the norm there. Even in other locations, I can sometimes pick out people from that area.

  4. Donald Becker

    Really, how hard is it to just write fake positive reviews, instead of attacking the negative ones?

    It can't be very difficult, as evidenced by the high proportion of obviously fake reviews on Yelp.

    My real question is how many of the reviews on Yelp are carefully written fakes. Surely not all of the people writing fake reviews are incompetent. You can even cheat on the fake -- take a credible positive review from another city and tweak it for your own business.

    1. Fibbles

      In my student days I wrote a few fake reviews when managing front of house for a restaurant. It is actually tricky to keep coming up with convincing reviews. Copying and pasting from other places is likely to get you caught. I believe most of the review sites employ similar software to that used by universities to detect plagiarism.

      To be honest the whole online review system is flawed. One bad review has about as much impact as ten good ones. Unfortunately most people only write reviews if they feel they had a bad experience. From what I've seen a bad experience can be something as minor as not liking the background music, or ordering a dish that was spicier than they expected, or not stocking the 'right' ales. When a minor quibble on the internet can significantly cut into trade it's no surprise that fake positive reviews are so common.

      1. werdsmith Silver badge

        Indeed Mr Fibbles, I believe you are absolutely correct about online reviews.

        In fact I have seen Elance jobs for fake review writers.

        Which is why I always completely disregard online reviews.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Just wait till you see the review he leaves p of the judge...

    Anybody know how a similarly blatant case would fare in the UK? Paranoid fear suggests that OfTwat would strongly deplore his conduct and tell him to endeavor not to repeat the same false claims...

  6. J.G.Harston Silver badge

    Wow. Corporate execution. Sets a precedent, trolling is now a capital crime.

  7. Tim Roberts 1

    good

    Couldn't have happened to a nicer cunch of bunts.

  8. Joerg

    The internet is full of fake reviews and fake comments...

    For movies, games, tv shows, smartphones, GPUs, cars.. anything.

    And multinational companies/corporations do most of the dirty job. Or they hire scam agencies operating in India, East Europe, South America, North Africa that have hundreds or thousands of "employees" doing the dirty job 24/7.

    So they create fake accounts on Facebook, Twitter and so on.. they post fake comments on blogs, forums .. to either promote or attack depending on who is paying them for what.

    So a competitor can bash upcoming products either being smartphones or movies.

    And when a product is really bad these scam agencies get a lot of money to promote it because the multinational companies marketeers tell that the only way to sell a really bad product is thru brainwashing people.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    1 down, will he go for the other 49

    I wonder how many states do any sort of check on out-of-state permanent cease and desist orders and if he will just move to the nearest major city in one of the neighboring states to start abusing customers there.

  10. John Tserkezis

    Ok, so HVAC isn't this guy's thing. Lots of us have been in jobs that haven't been a perfect match for us.

    If this guy took up, oh, I don't know, website writing, he could probably run a nice business there.

    (chuckle)

  11. zen1

    what a douche bag!

  12. earl grey
    Trollface

    Atlanta? Georgia?

    I'm surprised the cnut is still alive.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It's just business!

    The real gravy, the real profit is getting much more money than what the services supplied are worth. Which is best done by getting people to pay for one thing and delivering much less.

    And to keep that easy profit rolling in it is well worth it to spend a little of that sweet easy profit addressing any impediments to it's flow. This HVAC biz shows how successful such tactics are, they have been making very good money for a very long time. It is capitalism.

    Well, it is modern capitalism which has learned there is more profit in rigging the system, corrupting the system, than actually trying to compete fairly or supply reasonable and fair services. Competing fairly is expensive and the only goal profit so expenses are best be kept down. Morals have no role in business, laws maybe but even then only those enforced to the point it impacts profits.

    This little company is just doing what large companies and global industries are doing, making profit, capitalism in the 21st century.

    If this HVAC company was big enough there would be no reporting of their actions, in fact they might have had enough profit to buy a change to legislation that would make their actions legal or at least ensure their actions would receive little or no attention.

    As it is a larger company is quite happy we are talking about the practices of such a small company, but hey maybe that is just a coincidence.

  14. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge

    permanently cease and desist from doing business in the heating and air conditioning industry

    If only they'd treat phone telemarketing spammers like that.

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