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Privacy activists have filed a constitutional complaint against Germany's data retention laws. The objection against the German Telecomms Data Retention Act was filed in federal court on Monday by German privacy group Arbeitskreis Vorratsdatenspeicherung (Working Group on Data Retention). The group said 30,000 people have …

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  1. Keith T
    Pirate

    Should use the U.K. model instead

    We don't have problems with personal data retention in the U.K.

    We have a well-tried system that has been developed over the years known as the 'Fuckknows' method.

    Data is passed from place to place then, eventually, when asked where it is, a government official spends half an hour saying 'Fuck knows. We gave it to an office junior and it's gone'

    This, so far, has proved to be the most efficient means of data security as no bugger anywhere has a clue where it is. The only thing that is retained is the huge salary of those ultimately responsible for the data.

  2. TomJ
    Alert

    federal court...

    ... is a bit vague (there are several unrelated other federal courts). What is meant is the Federal Constitutional Court, which has the power to strike down laws if it finds them unconstitutional and in the past has also made clear, that it doesn't think that excludes EU "legislation"...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Constitutional_Court_of_Germany

  3. Ron Eve

    @Keith T

    LMBO - well done and so true....

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    But did you know.....

    That unbeknown to many in the UK BT stores in archives ALL details on microfiche for many years (at least 7 years) and that contains details of all calls you have made.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Paris Hilton

    Police State

    Every government wants a police state, its good, keeps everyone is control, but it also takes away your basic civil rights.

    You see we need to get these terrorist bastards before they kill us all. Load of bollox if you ask me. Terrorism is created by government bastards with their policy decisions. All govs are the same, and none of them are following true democracy. None of them want true democracy, sure don't they have great lives. In Ireland, they just gave themselves a pay rise of 36K Euro -- The Irish Leadership now makes more money than George W. Bush. Guess what, none of the politicians objected to their pay increase. Not one, yet they argue every single policy other than that! Bastards!

    The only true democracy died in ancient Greece. A different leader every day chosen by random from the people. Cleisthenes/Pericles type era.

    We need to keep our civil rights, keep ourselves free -- as in European Freedom -- Americans don't actually have it, they just think they do.

    regards

    Paris Hilton.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Alert

    Terrorism measures..

    AC: "Terrorism is created by government bastards with their policy decisions."

    Sometimes.. more often than not nowadays, it's a result of people accepting religious beliefs as something "sacred" that shouldn't be questioned, or at least be "tolerated". If you tolerate somebody who practices Christianity, they'll create an environment that tolerates somebody who practices fundamentalist Christianity, and they'll in turn create an environment which tolerates extremism. Substitute whichever religion you prefer to think of as evil for Christianity, if you prefer (not that it matters).

    The best hope for a future free of religious terrorism is to solidly educate our (and their) children. If you teach a child to think critically and scientifically, questioning everything including the beliefs that their parents hold so dear, then you've got one less terrorist knocking at your door. Also giving a child a non-religious solid moral foundation is important - if it's based on common sense, it can't be perverted, unlike most common religions which can be interpreted many different ways.

    Religion should be dinner conversation. Polite be damned - call a horse a horse and a fool a fool.

    As for the topic at hand - if the Governments and the law respect due process (and due process is reasonable), and the Government and companies aren't incompetent gits who lose valuable information, I don't see a big problem with the data retention laws.

  7. andy
    Thumb Down

    Sorry

    AC - "AC: "Terrorism is created by government bastards with their policy decisions."

    Sometimes.. more often than not nowadays, it's a result of people accepting religious beliefs as something "sacred" that shouldn't be questioned"

    -------

    Sorry but thats rubbish. More often than not nowadays terrorism is created by the government to subdue the people and herd them like cattle into a totalitarian big brother state.

    How much terrorism was there before George Bush & Co. decided to p*ss off the whole of the muslim world by blaming them for 9/11, invading Iraq on a false pretext and locking up anyone with a vaguely foreign name indefinitely? Next to none.

    About the only terrorists we seem to prosecute are the thickos they've managed to coax into saying 'violent jihad' in return for a box of milk tray....

  8. JR

    No change

    Andy wrote: "How much terrorism was there before George Bush & Co. decided to p*ss off the whole of the muslim world by blaming them for 9/11, invading Iraq on a false pretext and locking up anyone with a vaguely foreign name indefinitely?"

    Er... about the same as there is today but without the hysteria and political hand wringing.

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