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Donald Trump is allowing government agencies to contract private cybersecurity companies to carry out operations against cyber-enabled transnational criminal organizations (CE-TCOs). The US President signed a memo on Wednesday confirming a strategy hinted at earlier this year, saying participating companies can support national …

  1. oldandgrey
    Pirate

    Letter of marque

    Back to the days of privateers and corsairs. A letter of marque will be issued if you pay a million to the Trump government. Ideas of this kind have been boiling for some time. A quote from Wikipedia: "On December 18, 2025 Lee [US Senator Mike Lee from Utah] introduced S.3567, a bill which would authorise the issuance of letters of marque against members of [Mexican] cartels".

    1. JoeCool Silver badge

      Re: Letter of marque

      Dead on, except it wont be the Trump government ... I'd guess a superpac.

  2. KittenHuffer Silver badge

    I'm not sure ....

    .... I would trust a memo from Agent Orange as far as I could move him in a catering truck!

    1. Roland6 Silver badge

      Re: I'm not sure ....

      I would “trust” this one one, although I would still take the precaution of making a suitable donation to Trump’s “library”

      This is something Trump wants, because that’s what Putin and Xi have - namely groups that support the government but are at arms length to permit plausible deniability of their activities.

      As an “alien”, I am all too aware Trump’s definition of what a CE-CTO is, includes foreign businesses and governments - including the UK…

      However, given this is Trump and the plausible deniability, expect to be hung out to dry if there is any outcry about your activities…

  3. UCAP Silver badge

    Oh goodie ...

    ... a cyberwar to add to Trump's collection.

    1. Michael Strorm Silver badge

      Re: Oh goodie ...

      There's no need for sarcasm- I'm sure Trump's cyberwar will be every bit as successful as the actual war he got himself involved in.

      Still, it can't be denied that one *did* have the intended short-term effect of distracting from the Epstein files, even if it very quickly provided him with a bigger problem he can't magic away with the usual bloviating bullshittery.

      Of course, the irony is that the Epstein files had in turn themselves been a demagogic would-be attempt to smear his Democrat opponents that ultimately came back to bite him on the arse.

      Hmm, I'm spotting a pattern here.

  4. Bitsminer

    Eligible Bidders must show...

    At leave five (5) years of personal or corporate experience in manipulation, disruption, denial, degradation, or destruction of information systems, networks, physical or virtual infrastructure.

    1. BBRush

      Re: Eligible Bidders must show...

      Maybe this is all a masterful plan to find people that have been causing harm that now want to go legit, so he can round them up and send them to El Salvador or something!!!

      The US's definition of 'cyber' is pretty wide/vague, so I guess you could employ your contractors for almost anything, but, in reality, i think the letters of marque will be useless compared to, say, Black Axe's known willingness to hack people up that cross them once they know who they are.

      At least a PMC knows who's likely going to be shooting at him.

  5. Groo The Wanderer - A Canuck Silver badge

    Of course #1 on that list will be anyone involved in any form of media piracy, legitimate target or not. The RIAA and MPAA will see to it.

    1. Blazde Silver badge

      Absolutely. The order of the priorities is as fascinating as it is unsurprising:

      prosperity, security, and freedom

      And of course essentially all 'crime' is cyber-enabled now, while "against .. United States interests" just means with 'things we decide we don't like'.

      It could easily be used to go after NGOs, political parties, journalists, etc

  6. Excused Boots Silver badge
    Joke

    "These companies will also be required to maintain a bond or escrow of at least $1 million, which shall be forfeited if they violate the terms of their contracts.”

    No doubt the excuse will be that the money was ‘just resting’ in his account.

    1. rjmx

      ... where it was pining for the fjords.

  7. Eric Olson

    Likely illegal

    The US Constitution explicitly places the issuance of Letters of Marque in the hands of the Legislative branch, and other than 214 years since they were last issued, I don't see how this would be any different.

    Of course, the SCOTUS might think otherwise as there is no "history" of the US using privateers to hack enemy nations and criminal organizations, so clearly it's not covered.

    I await the day when a nuke is launched on accident by a firm trying to get a payday, or as retaliation for some catastrophic attack by a private firm. Good times.

    1. EricM Silver badge

      Re: Likely illegal

      > as there is no "history" of the US using privateers to hack enemy nations

      At least there is a history of using privateers to kill brown people around the world. Think Blackwater or whatever they are called these days...

      1. EdSaxby

        Re: Likely illegal

        Remind me... North Korea are the bad guys, right? Not the USA?

        1. KittenHuffer Silver badge

          Re: Likely illegal

          Agent Orange is doing everything he can to change that narrative!

    2. My other car WAS an IAV Stryker

      Re: Likely illegal

      "...as retaliation for some catastrophic attack by a private firm."

      My most-likely scenario:

      1. Private company hacks foreign adversary under government contract.

      2. Said company gets back-hacked by adversary. All customer (private citizen) data is exposed/copied/exfiltrated.

      3. Customers sue en masse -- likely becomes a class action.

      4. Company hides behind government contract for immunity.

      Conclusion: The public loses.

      1. Eric Olson

        Re: Likely illegal

        Same as it ever was...

    3. Roland6 Silver badge

      Re: Likely illegal

      >" as there is no "history" of the US using privateers to hack enemy nations and criminal organizations"

      There is history of the US using privateers/private militias against "enemy nations", I suggest you reread your war of indepence history...

      1. Eric Olson

        Re: Likely illegal

        Oh, I was referring to a new SCOTUS standard of "historical usage" or whatever the hell they came up with. It's specifically around gun laws, I guess, but overall, the idea was that if dead dudes tried it before, it must be okay regardless of what the Constitution says in plain text.

        My attempt at the joke was that since "hacking" was not something that the framers or founders did, the Constitution is silent on the matter and therefore it's allowable, despite there being a literal clause stating that only the Legislative branch can issue Letters of Marque and Reprisal. Therefore, the SCOTUS will find Trump can do whatever he wants, because reasons.

        1. oldandgrey
          Linux

          Re: Likely illegal

          You are probably referring to 'originalism'. That's the legal theory that interprets the US constitution according to what the drafters may have originally had in mind, rather than what the text says. Basically, the originalists are pining for the 18th century. The icon is the closest thing I could find to a dead parrot.

      2. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

        Re: Likely illegal

        There is history of the US using privateers/private militias against "enemy nations"

        Happened a lot pre-Declaration - the nascent Congress didn't want to pay for a Navy to go up against the RN so, when the French were somewhat distracted by having their Navy ships regularly destroyed by the RN, often commissioned pirates free ships to prey on British ships.

        And ignored when said freebooters 'accidentally' managed to hit American ships.

  8. just4this Silver badge

    It will benefit The Treasury

    I suspect he’ll go after ransomware payments held in some form of ClownCoin.

    The recovered ClownCoin will have to go through his OrangeClownCoin to be aggregated.

    What is left after huge fees and a tiny cut for the hired hackers will go to a fund to pay himself what he believes The Treasury owe him.

    See! He'll be saving The treasury billions.

  9. scottro

    Why doesn't any article about Trump begin with, Today, Trump once again showed that he is a moron and criminal by....

    Why is he always sane washed? As soon as he appointed RFK Jr. It should have been obvious the man is either an idiot, or perhaps the project 2025 conspiracies are correct and he's trying to destroy the country. This is more of the same.

    With a SCOTUS of yes people and a spineless congress I wonder how many who voted for him still don't realize how stupid he, and they, are?

    1. Will Godfrey Silver badge
      Unhappy

      No stupid person is aware of the fact.

      1. MiguelC Silver badge

        Being stupid is like being dead, it's only painful for others

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Moron?

      He told us he is a very stable genius. He wouldn't lie to us, would he?

      1. Pete 2 Silver badge

        Birds of a feather

        > He told us he is a very stable genius

        I seem to recall Idi Amin (or to use his full title: “His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, CBE, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular.”) claiming much the same.

        1. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

          Re: Birds of a feather

          I seem to recall Idi Amin

          Yeah - but at least the late and unlamented Idi had *some* capacity for original thought. Unlike to Orange Pumpkin.

          (And Idi didn't need nappies either)

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    So, the same level of vetting

    that happened with the reflecting pool resurfacing, the destroyed whitehouse wing, the munition factory that produces no munitions?

  11. andy the pessimist Bronze badge

    hmmm

    There are known weaknesses with remote access to water control equipment. Multiple AI companies are having the LLMs hacking each other.

    You would hope that they improve (defensive) security.

    Before they start offensive hacking in retaliation.

    1. Will Godfrey Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: hmmm

      Oh come on now. You know better than to say something like that.

      [hint] It would require them to display intelligence.

      1. andy the pessimist Bronze badge

        Re: hmmm

        Intelligence nooooo. Lol

        Hubris yes.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The King Trump touch

    Everything turns to shit.

    1. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

      Re: The King Trump touch

      'Where there's muck there's brass'

      Or, in Trump's case, badly gilded base metal that he thinks is gold.

      Which is probably a metaphor for something.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    What could possibly go wrong?

    Sounds like yet another great idea from the brain of Dear Leader and his cronies.

  14. Pete 2 Silver badge

    A wide net, indeed

    From the White House bulletin:.

    Transnational Criminal Organizations (TCOs) ... These organizations conduct sustained cyber campaigns to perpetrate frauds that undermine American prosperity, security, and freedom.

    It is possible to expand the definition of fraud to include anyone who tells a lie¹

    Which logically leads to granting a $1mn bond holder the power to attack any organisation that publishes on the internet, anything that an American court president dislikes.

    [1] and who determines what is "truth (social)?"

    1. Groo The Wanderer - A Canuck Silver badge

      Re: A wide net, indeed

      Bingo. Rule #1: any site that allows content criticizing Der Pumpkin Fuhrer is to be hacked immediately.

  15. mcswell Bronze badge

    Attribution

    Donald, can you say "attribution"? I knew you couldn't!

    (In case this is not clear... in this context, attribution means determining who is the bad guy who attacked you, so you can attack him---it's always a him---back.)

  16. PB90210 Silver badge

    "Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom"

    Names of the fire fighters in the Scandi translation of (the kids TV programme) Trumpton?

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