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Anthropic says that it plans to remove hidden codes it added to Claude Code several months ago to catch other AI companies that are trying to steal from its models. Thariq Shihipar, an engineer at Anthropic who works on the Claude Code team, said on Tuesday that a fix should appear on July 1. "This is an experiment we launched …

  1. has been
    Flame

    The biter bit?

    So, you were upset about other folks (maybe Foreigners!) scraping the content that you'd scraped from folk around the world? We had to put in mitigations because of AI bots, mostly Claude, killing the servers on our small, UK, forum. 40,000 sessions in any 8 hour period, compared with less than 100 genuine users...

    1. EricM Silver badge

      Re: The biter bit?

      Same here. robots.txt? Why should it apply to AI? Let's start another 1000 scraping sessions...

      1. NoneSuch Silver badge
        WTF?

        Re: The biter bit?

        The Chinese don't scrape other models.

        They are too busy grabbing Tibet and the South China Sea plus working on securing their new vacation homes in Taiwan.

    2. Pascal Monett Silver badge

      Re: The biter bit?

      Yeah, it's called irony.

      Nothing like a thief to not appreciate being thieved.

    3. Wiretrip Bronze badge

      Re: The biter bit?

      The cowboys at Anthropic and OpenAI cannot even write a decent scraper. I guess it is because they are all fresh out of uni research departments and so have no real world experience.

      1. Cris E

        Re: The biter bit?

        >>The cowboys at Anthropic and OpenAI cannot even write a decent scraper. I guess it is because they are all fresh out of uni research departments and so have no real world experience.

        No, it's because their tools didn't scrape any decent scraper code and were left trying to write it themselves. Poorly.

      2. BartyFartsLast Silver badge

        Re: The biter bit?

        They should get ChatGPT to code one for them...

        1. cdegroot

          Re: The biter bit?

          They did. That's the whole problem.

    4. Christoph

      Re: The biter bit?

      "You're trying to kidnap what I've rightfully stolen." -- Vizzini

    5. Kurgan Silver badge

      Re: The biter bit?

      Yes, I'd really like to have their list of ip addresses related to AI companies to block them all from accessing all of my websites. (by the way I'm currently using Anubis as a web scrapers blocker)

  2. TReko

    Bubble code?

    If there's one thing that makes me think AI is a bubble, it's the lousy quality of the code in the leaked Claude Code source and now this leak.

    If their customer-facing software is so hacked-together and amateurish, then how bad is it in the billion dollar back-end? Do these high-value AI companies actually know what they're doing?

    1. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: Do these high-value AI companies actually know what they're doing?

      A purely rhetorical question I take it.

      The answer is patently clear to all except the companies themselves although a case might be made for the likes of Altman knowing exactly what they are doing which is a far older practice than that of AI. I imagine Bernie Madoff might be glad to have a few new faces on his block.

      1. NapTime ForTruth

        Re: Do these high-value AI companies actually know what they're doing?

        Or, given the quality of AI, a few new faeces.

    2. JulieM Silver badge

      Re: Bubble code?

      Leaked source code is always of poor quality.

      Those of us who write high-quality code are not ashamed to let the whole world see exactly how good it is.

      The wide-scale adoption of a single machine architecture, and the flood of proprietary, caged software that it enabled to be supplied in binary-only form, was a gift to the world's worst coders.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I guess all it proved was that China is in fact NOT stealing anything from them...

    As usual, its more likely the American companies are stealing the tech and IP from the Chinese (and others)

    1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

      Chinese and other open weight models are the biggest threat to a business model that is close to charging people for thinking. This is economic nonsense and somewhat akin to having only very expensive private education that few can afford. Knowledge is best considered a public good.

      At least when it comes to programming, the open models are now considered only a couple months behind the best commercial ones with the gap closing all the time. They tend to be more resource intensive and less optimised but those are the kind of features that healthy competition will deal with, especially are more users switch to them.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Everyone steals from everyone. Otherwise someone smart in the Dark Ages would have simply built the Star Ship Enterprise…

      1. NapTime ForTruth

        Might have happened. After all, Roddenberry originally pitched the show as "Wagon Train to the stars".

        Wait...how deep might this retro-futurist conspiracy go?!?!

    3. LionelB Silver badge

      Those things are not mutually exclusive. I think the technical term for this is "circle jerk".

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Anthropic should…

    …spend less time on PR stunts, and more time competing with free alternatives from Google.

    1. Rich 2 Silver badge

      Re: Anthropic should…

      …spend less time on PR stunts, and more time competing with free alternatives from Google fucking off.

      There, ftfy

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Of course, I get one "AI" ...

    to paraphrase another before I release it.

    1. NapTime ForTruth

      Re: Of course, I get one "AI" ...

      Whoa, wait a second. Quitting at just one paraphrasing is lazy. Instead, get the AIs to paraphrase each other in an infinite loop. That will give it even more AI-idness, back and forth, forever.

  6. LionelB Silver badge
    Devil

    This is not a malicious feature …

    No doubt the Chinese would beg to differ. Not that there's any moral high ground around these parts.

    > … but it is a weird choice for a developer tool that asks for trust.

    You don't say!

  7. ecofeco Silver badge

    test

    test

    1. LionelB Silver badge

      Re: test

      Ah, so it wasn't just me – Reg forums didn't appear to be updating posts yesterday (2nd July).

  8. druck Silver badge

    Trap street

    So they've done the cartographic equivalent of putting in trap streets, but given the hallucinating bollocks that LLMs output, doesn't do that anyway?

    1. JulieM Silver badge

      Re: Trap street

      I always used to have a deap-seated fear that such plagiarism traps might have been hidden somewhere in a book of mathematical tables, and an engineer relying on it for an innocent calculation -- using the original, mind you, not a "pirate" copy -- would accidentally hit upon one of them; ultimately resulting in something like the collapse of a bridge, bursting of a hydro-electric dam or an aircraft exploding over a populated area.

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