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BORK!BORK!BORK! We're big fans of retro computing here at Vulture Central, and so it is with a certain delight that we can report XP-era Windows has been spotted disgracing itself on London's Docklands Light Railway. A DLR platform information screen shows a Windows-style error dialog and system desktop. A London Docklands …

  1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

    "Yes, I’d like to hear it, HAL. Sing it for me."

    "Daisy, Daisy, give me a crashing, do."

    Off Topic: BORK TAG IS BACK!

  2. LessWileyCoyote

    Wasn't there an XP-based system (memory suggests "Windows Embedded", but my memory is crap) intended for dumb things like tills and signs? My (unreliable) recollection is that it stayed in support for an unfeasibly long period of time.

    1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

      There was, and was the reason why XP HAD to get much longer official support ever desired by MS, was it 15 years or even 17 years?

    2. sarusa Silver badge
      Pint

      Indeed (I worked on it with at least one product), so I decided to look it up, and in typical Microsoft (this was before Microslop) fashion there are at least six embedded versions of it (thanks Wiki):

      - Windows XP for Embedded Systems - bog standard XP, with embedded only license

      - Windows XP Embedded (XPe) - this is what you're probably thinking of, and most people think of. It's what I worked with. It's componentized XP so you can only include what you need. It was used in clocks, slot machines, cash registers, ATMs, arcade games, NAS, navigation systems (like TomTom), and yes, railroads.

      - Windows Embedded for Point of Service (WEPOS) - focused on cash registers, ATMs, gas pumps, etc.

      - Windows Embedded Standard 2009 - Basically updated XPe with new stuff like .NET 3.5, WMP 11, IE7, etc.

      - Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 - Similarly updated WEPOS.

      - Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs - thin XP variant for dinosaur PCs (back to Pentium 1). Okay technically this is not embedded, but the hardware's close enough.

      These were all eventually succeeded by Windows 7 versions and then Windows 10 versions. For obvious reasons of it being a flaky piece of shite there are no Windows 11 versions.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Yes, there was indeed, by all accounts, once you'd figured out the weird persistent memory commands, it wasn't bad at all, as in, it was moderately reliable as windows goes.

    4. DaveK23
      FAIL

      Re: dumb things like tills and signs

      Every time I go to the Co-Op, I see tills displaying a JS error pop-up about some object not being found, and asking whether or not to keep running scripts on the current page. Because the customer-facing screens are touch-sensitive, I sometimes amuse myself by clicking on 'yes' or 'no'. It never seems to make any real difference.

      I'll try and remember to snap a photo of one next time I see it, unless ElReg has already covered it. It's been happening for at least a decade without being fixed, IIRC.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    As far as I know, the Tyne and Wear Metro is still using XP Embedded in the ticket gates, or it was the last time I saw one of them reboot a couple of years ago. However photgraphing it seems to annoy the staff lurking at the gates.

  4. bernmeister
    Facepalm

    Does it matter?

    If your system is not exposed to the Internet or anything similar and your hardware is functional there is absolutely no need to upgrade Windows. Upgrading could result in some hardware becoming non-functional due to loss of driver support. Dont upgrade for the sake of it.

    1. cipnt

      Well, yes, but Microsoft has to pay its shareholders

    2. Marty McFly Silver badge
      Mushroom

      Re: Does it matter?

      Totally. This whole industry is a giant self-licking ice cream cone.

      Our software has defects so that you will buy support. Then we will drop support for the previous version so that you feel compelled to upgrade just to get security patches. Oh, and the new software needs new hardware because there is a magic security chip you need too.

      What, you don't believe me?? Let me expire this certificate as a security precaution, for your own safety.

      Bork that!

      But I just want my sign to do the same thing it has always done!

    3. Sandtitz Silver badge

      Re: Does it matter?

      Depending on the age of this XP installation, you would have to update the innards anyway. XP minimum requirements was 64MB RAM - even with way more there's no practical replacement, and in a 24/7 available terminal you'd need to schedule updates anyway - tricky.

      Old, unsupported OS version is fine as long as you also keep a dev environment that target it.

      Like all computers, this public terminal should be segmented into its own VLAN and firewalled to absolute minimum possible access. Judging from the old looking (hard to see) VNC icon - likely zero encryption - I wouldn't bet on best practices.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Does it matter?

      "there is absolutely no need to upgrade Windows."

      s/upgrade/install/

      FTFY

    5. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

      Re: Does it matter?

      ... and does not have publicly-accessible USB ports, does not have publicly-accessible serial ports, does not have publicly-accessible PS/2 ports, does not have publicly-accessible network ports, etc., then no, you don't need to upgrade.

    6. Martin an gof Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: Does it matter?

      due to loss of driver support

      No drivers needed on the DLR, of course...

      M.

  5. sarusa Silver badge
    Angel

    Could be worse?

    Better than it running Windows 11 for sure.

  6. PhilipN Silver badge

    2600 magazine-type expose

    Fond sigh.

  7. TheMaskedMan Silver badge

    "Anyone looking at today's iteration of Windows might wonder how much of it dates back to what's on display at Limehouse."

    The bits that work.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Daisy and confused

    You had one job!

  9. Tron Silver badge

    If yall didn't need it to be purty...

    DOS would have done the job, and still would be. Unlike meatbags, software doesn't get old. Hardware though, needs its batteries changing and a bit of recapping.

    1. Persona Silver badge

      Re: If yall didn't need it to be purty...

      Software can get old very quickly once the security bugs present since day one get discovered. The classic keyboard buffer overflow attack being a great early example.

      1. DaveK23

        Re: The classic keyboard buffer overflow attack

        Which one?

  10. Ross 12

    Windows seems like such a heavyweight OS for tasks like this, it just never sits right with me

  11. Tim Chuma

    Embedded systems do not need to update

    If you do not need to connect to a network it is fine to run old software. As long as the hardware still runs.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Windows 2000

    That's 100% Windows 2000.

    Looks nothing like XP nor Server 2003 (and Server 2003 would make zero sense running on an information screen).

    1. K555 Silver badge

      Re: Windows 2000

      XP could look just like that if you set it to 'best performance'

  13. Mossdale

    DAISY = Docklands Arrival Information System

  14. Tubz

    Imagine if Microsoft had purchased Geoworks Ensemble back in the day and for anybody who wants to play, it's gone open source @ https://github.com/bluewaysw/pcgeos

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