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NASA has revealed it’s working on a plan called “The Big Bang” that it hopes will extend the working lives of the Voyager probes. A few details about the plan appear in an April 17 NASA announcement which revealed that during a planned roll maneuver on February 27, “Voyager 1’s power levels fell unexpectedly.” “Mission engineers …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Long distance information, give me Memphis, Tennessee

    Help me find the party trying to get in touch with me

    She could not leave her number, but I know who placed the call

    1. Jedit Silver badge
      Devil

      "She could not leave her number, but I know who placed the call"

      It's that motherf*cker V'Ger, and he's come to kill us all!

  2. SnailFerrous Silver badge

    Big Bang

    When I saw the title my first thought was crashing Voyager's one and two in to each other to see if the resulting FrankenVoyager had improved power consumption. However, they are heading in to the black in different directions, so that seems unlikely.

    1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
      Alien

      Re: Big Bang

      V-GINY

      Does anyone recognize those call letters?

      1. Sudosu Silver badge

        Re: Big Bang

        I have no #&*" idea.

  3. Will Godfrey Silver badge
    Thumb Up

    Talk about the gift that keeps on giving...

    See title.

    {alternatively, extreme ROI}

  4. Benegesserict Cumbersomberbatch Silver badge
    Pint

    Unserviceable?

    They might not be able to be serviced, but Voyagers are, by far, the most serviceable spacecraft ever designed by humankind.

    Here's to them both!

    1. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: Unserviceable?

      "They might not be able to be serviced " - Unserviceable generally means unusable, not useful or impractical.

      Even at 25 billion km Voyager is hardly that although the intrepid Archibald Tuttle is unlikely to make a house call.

      "the most serviceable spacecraft" - Definitely very usable and useful.

      † If you thought the movie was pure fantasy; renamed today Amerigaga - pure documentary.

  5. Fogcat

    This is a great film about the engineers keeping Voyager going:

    "It's Quieter in the Twilight" (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt17658964/)

  6. Taliesinawen Bronze badge

    1970s technology rules :)

    > NASA left LECP in a state that means it can’t do its job but didn’t turn off a small motor that consumes just 0.5 watts because ..

    ClippyAI: The small motor rotates the platform that holds the particle sensors. A long-dormant motor could freeze up or develop mechanical issues if left completely off. Keeping it minimally active maintains lubrication, alignment, and readiness.

  7. Eclectic Man Silver badge
    Pint

    Cheers!

    The ingenuity of the NASA boffins never ceases to amaze me.

    Although I suppose that one day the Voyager probes will be limited to just a periodic 'beep', currently lasting over 10 times their initial projected life is pretty good.

    Have one of these on me ------->

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    We need to hire Elon to send a Starship out and pick them up, bring them back to earth and put them on display in a museum.

    1. HandlesMessiah

      Great idea! I think he should handle it personally. What a shame that his consumables probably won't last the full round trip.

      1. Dippywood

        What a shame...

        A crying shame.

        Boo hoo. Boo hoo.

        Now, what's for dinner?

    2. simonlb Silver badge
      WTF?

      Voyager 1 is 25 Billion kilometers from Earth, but Starshit Starship hasn't even made it to orbit yet. The last person you want to be calling is Musk.

    3. NapTime ForTruth

      Alternatively, we could just launch Elon in a Starship pointed in that general direction and...honestly, that's mission accomplished. Whatever happens after that is a guaranteed, albeit quite cold, win.

      1. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge

        You do realize that means Musky would be the first human aliens encounter, right? That means, dead or alive, he would be the example of us all to them. Is that what you want?

        1. Erythrite
          Alien

          Elon is an alien

          Perhaps Elon Musk *is* an alien. He and his family have been trying to build the technology to get back to their home planet.

          Think about it. If you crash landed on a earth, with a bit of advanced technology, how would you get back off?

          They all look a little odd, like a bad skin job on an alien. Elon's speech is a little odd. Dad had an "Emerald Mine" to generate some wealth, Elon continues to accumulate wealth, eventually building a rocket company.

          Perhaps they need something critical from home, .how would they get it?

          His allegedly Epstein-adjacent brother was on the board of Burning Man for many years. If you were an alien, you would land at Burning Man because no one would notice anyone who looked a little weird.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      It would probably be cheaper than moving Discovery from The Smithsonian to Space Center, Houston.

  9. Sproggit Silver badge

    This isn't so much Off Topic as "Out There"...

    Launched in 1977, Voyager 1 weighed approximately 1,797 pounds [or 815kg]... Voyager 2 was about the same...

    Using the technology commercially available today, SpaceX and the Falcon Heavy - not Starship / Super Heavy, SpaceX could put approximately 37,000lbs or 16,800kg in to Mars Orbit. If you're willing to accept that "If you can get to Mars you can probably get to anywhere in the Solar System and Beyond; it's just a question of how long you'd have to wait to get there", then today, SpaceX has the capacity to pit give or take 20x the payload in to deep space.

    Given a mission profile with a total mission weight of something in that capacity - assuming, of course, that SpaceX chose a single-launch approach and did not contemplate any sort of "in-orbit assembly" of a larger or more complex vehicle... then with the addition of the latest reliable version of say the NEXT (NASA Evolutionary Xenon Thruster) drive, or maybe AEPS (Advanced Electrical Propulsion System) [either of which are many times more thrust efficient than either Voyager vehicle.

    Add in some 21st century power plant technology - a radioisotope thermoelectric generator (RTG), powered by Americium-241 and you've got a power supply with a half-life of 432 years, making it ideal for a multi-century long-range mission.

    The sheer lifting capacity available to NASA today [in the form of Falcon Heavy], coupled with a Xenon-based thruster and 21st-century RTG and you've got the ingredients for a deep-space exploratory vehicle that could probably make it to our nearest stellar neighbour. Not in our lifetimes, of course, [we're talking thousands of years for that sort of vehicle mass] but it's much more likely that we could keep in touch with it than some of these smaller, lighter, "laser light-sail" approaches.

    Or... that would be enough of a payload to send a much more serious amount of kit to the more interesting planets/moons in this solar system...

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: This isn't so much Off Topic as "Out There"...

      Or we could just launch a manhole cover

    2. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge

      Re: This isn't so much Off Topic as "Out There"...

      That is an excellent idea. Such a launch would likely have the new probe passing the Voyager probes within 20 years of launch. Although, we should send them in a different direction as the one of the Voyagers is headed for Klingon territory, and the other is going to be sent back after a Borg retrofit. We need a fellow named Jackson Roykirk on the design team, just to make sure.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: This isn't so much Off Topic as "Out There"...

      > Launched in 1977, Voyager 1 weighed approximately 1,797 pounds [or 815kg]

      It weighs much, much less today.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: This isn't so much Off Topic as "Out There"...

        Really? I was launched a few years earlier and I weigh much, much more today

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: This isn't so much Off Topic as "Out There"...

          If you went on the plutonium diet, you would lose weight too.

        2. Mrs Spartacus

          Re: This isn't so much Off Topic as "Out There"...

          In space, there are no Pizza Huts....

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: This isn't so much Off Topic as "Out There"...

            Are you sure? Where did they get the whole "flying saucer" idea from otherwise?

      2. NickHolland

        Re: This isn't so much Off Topic as "Out There"...

        > It weighs much, much less today.

        Why's that? Only thing I can think of that has been ejected has been fuel, and from what I'm seeing, at launch, there was only 100kg of fuel, so that's less than 15%. That's not even one "much less", much less two much lesses. What am I missing?

        1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

          Re: This isn't so much Off Topic as "Out There"...

          If it's anything like a car I had that's done a lot fewer miles - a lot of bits will have fallen off.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: This isn't so much Off Topic as "Out There"...

          *mumble mumble, youth of today mumble education mumble*

          Weight is the force exerted on a scale by an object. Correct units are pounds and Newtons. Not to be confused with mass in kg.

    4. ThatOne Silver badge

      Re: This isn't so much Off Topic as "Out There"...

      > Using the technology commercially available today [...]

      That might be true, but unfortunately only in theory. If they were built the way things are built today, they would have probably fallen apart before crossing the orbit of Pluto...

      What I'm saying is that while the Voyagers are pretty unimpressive spec-wise, their absolutely unique feature is that they have proven to be resilient beyond all expectations, and have outlived their planned lifespan by 44 years. Running 48 years non-stop in a fairly hostile environment without any repairs or servicing, that's some serious engineering!

  10. goblinski Silver badge

    Just wait till VGER-6 goes through that black hole then comes back...

    RIP. Lt Llia.

    1. You aint sin me, roit Silver badge
      Alien

      The black hole scenario was the first thing to cross my mind on reading "Big Bang".

      Find yourself a primordial black hole, slip inside and exit from a white hole in a different universe.

      Maintaining comms throughout might be an issue...

      1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
        Pint

        So what is it?

        I've never seen it before, no-one has, but I'm guessing it's a white hole.

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