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  1. Korev Silver badge
    Coat

    A phoney story?

    1. Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge
      Coat

      It does ring a bell

      I'm sorry. couldn't resist. I'll let myself out

      1. DJV Silver badge

        Both of you are a twisted pair...

        1. ChrisC Silver badge

          That description fits them both to a tee, and tee, respectively...

          1. Will Godfrey Silver badge

            Tee Hee Hee

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            TNT, you say?

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I've seen this a few times - the old phones used to cause enough odd problems that they were banned from being in machine rooms. We had to leave them outside and rely on a landline.

    I've also seen the opposite effect - everything seeming to be working perfectly until you go to demonstrate it to someone only for it to fail in a way you've never seen before.

    1. Pascal Monett Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Absolutely that.

      I'm sure there will be scores of people here who will be able to to post stories about how their code was perfectly fine and functional right up to the point when it was time to demonstrate it to the customer.

      I've had it happen to me a number of times.

      1. Korev Silver badge
        Pirate

        My first job in IT was in QA. The second product I worked on was the project from hell, but sales kept on pushing the unfinished and very unstable software. As a tester I knew how to make it crash very well, so sales had me design a demo that would actually complete that they could show to customers...

        1. Chloe Cresswell Silver badge

          Ah, the practical version of the old compuserve NT forum statement: Never trust benchmark you didn't rig yourself.

          :)

        2. Mast1

          "....could show to customers...."

          "....could show to customers...."

          As a vacation student I was testing a complex semiconductor being driven by standard 74-series TTL. The resulting drive waveforms did not look very square due to the complex load on the electrode. I built a lumped component circuit as a dummy load out of resistors and capacitors for comparison (before SPICE etc was available). The waveforms looked a lot cleaner. My manager suggested that these latter traces should be saved for the data sheet....... I was not around long enough to know if that was ever the case.

        3. Andy Taylor

          This was famously how the first iPhone demo made sure the handset wouldn't crash. That and swapping between phones during the demo.

          The iPhone was announced months before release, which was very unusual for Apple. Normally it's "here's our new product, available today/tomorrow/2weeks from now"*

          * not counting the vapourware charging mat and Apple Intelligence for which we are still waiting.

          1. DS999 Silver badge

            Wasn't part of the reason for the delay between the announcement and the release of iPhone 1.0 due to the required FCC testing? Jobs knew there was no way that could happen without some sort of leak. He wanted to show the world when people really had no idea what Apple's phone would be, some were speculating it would have an iPod clickwheel on the front and other crazy schemes.

      2. Anonymous Coward Silver badge
        Holmes

        On a totally unrelated note, I've learned to never demo anything that has any form of calendar within range of a DST transition.

        Definitely test it at that time, but don't try to demo.

      3. 4mc
        Thumb Up

        Cathcarts rule for demos

        I did hundreds of trade shows and live "show and tells" at conferences in the 80's and 90's

        This lead to the truisism - don't show anything you have not rehearsed.

        Most often remembered at the end of a demo where everything went perfectly, you relaxed and make some joke about what you just done, clicked or did something at which point the UI or system would crash...

    2. Antron Argaiv Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Yeah, the old GSM phones were notorious for their "tickety-tick-tick-tick" interference on any amplified audio...like in a conference call orran audio presentation.

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Just for extra effect, the interference was strongest just before the phone rang.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          So strong in fact that you used to be able to buy little fobs that would light up on an incoming call. I had one which was a little spinning penguin.

      2. phuzz Silver badge

        My first set of computer speakers would give me early warning of an incoming call or text, even when they were turned off. Unfortunately they worked equally well for picking up my neighbour's phone.

        1. that one in the corner Silver badge

          My speakers *still* give me that warning for 'phone calls or SMS messages.

          1. DS999 Silver badge

            Are you still on 3G when at home? LTE/5G shouldn't do that.

            1. myootnt

              Classic whinge, I know it well and is always the beginning of a diagnostic rabbit warren. Shouldn't but it does and what are you going to do about it?

              1. Richard 12 Silver badge

                LTE/5G won't, but in many places the phone will fall back to the older standards as a call is coming in because the LTE/5G can't cope.

                Yay.

            2. that one in the corner Silver badge

              Given I'm at least a metre down the hill and have to go up to top of road to guarantee a signal for any important outgoing calls (say, to the chippie on a Friday), I assume the operators are dropping down to an older standard and what I'm hearing is the spark from Aldis lamp trigger.

              1. Mast1

                "...... Aldis lamp trigger.........."

                Are you sure it wasn't the piezo ignition for the gas burner under the deep fryer ?

            3. Jamie Jones Silver badge

              My 5G phone drops down to *2G* for voice because the provider won't support the perfectly valid 4G or 5G voip profile my phone uses. 3G doesn't exist in the UK anymore.

              It's annoying, but for £2.90 a month with free calls and texts, i've decided to stick with it. My mates iphone with the same provider works perfectly with 5g

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          mine used to sometimes pick up the local taxis in the middle of the night, now that was creepy!

      3. MrReynolds2U

        Many years ago...

        At a three-letter UK ISP support call-centre. You would often get self-important types turn up and walk around the place on their mobiles.

        More than a few times I had to take off my headset with a yell when they walked past as their mobile rang.

        1. UCAP Silver badge
          Joke

          Re: Many years ago...

          I thought you would walk around on the floor, but if they wanted to use mobiles ...

          1. Richard 12 Silver badge

            Re: Many years ago...

            It's to show how important they are.

            Less important people use heel lifts.

    3. Mishak Silver badge

      EMC

      Generally the case when mobiles were new and existing electronics had often not thought about EMC.

      I spent a lot of time around then helping people get their hardware to work when mobiles were near by (including fork lift trucks that would lose drive power).

      Anyone remember the "dit, dit-dit-dit, dit-dit, burrrrr..." on the TV news when someone in the studio had a phone in their pocket that received a call? ('dits' were the handset and cell establishing the connection; the 'burrrrr...' was the call).

    4. David Hicklin Silver badge

      I remember how you could hear the interference from an incoming calls on a PC or radio speaker before it even started ringing out, so not surprised it would crash something like this.

  3. GlenP Silver badge

    We had a similar one way back on a small warehouse unit setup using ACT Apricot's networking. Everyone was convinced it was a power issue so Apricot provided a mains power monitor on loan. Inevitably for the month it was in place there were no network issues, once it had gone back they resumed. The problem was never actually fixed, it just settled down to a manageable level, but there was a slight suspicion that the power monitor had provided some degree of conditioning.

    These days we'd slap a couple of UPSs in on the computers but that wasn't a viable option in the late 80's for a small customer.

    1. Old Used Programmer

      MY solution--in that time frame--was, when my boss balked at the price of a UPS for a bank of inbound modems, was to suggest a line conditioner. That was done within an acceptable budget.

      1. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

        Running the Numbers

        When dealing with those sorts of issues, with those sorts of people, it's useful to calculate how much money the organisation is losing every hour which the relevant system(s) are down or inaccessible. How many hundreds, or thousands, or hundred-thousands, or millions of pounds is that?

        Sell your proposal (UPSes, line conditioners, redundant servers, etc.) to management as relatively-cheap insurance.

        Beancounters and boards of directors understand that sort of logic.

  4. Lazlo Woodbine Silver badge

    I can confirm this is an issue.

    I've told this story a couple of times, so I'll be brief.

    Back in the late 80's / early 90's I worked for a large retailer, our computer system ran on a pair of mirrored Compaq servers.

    Every so often one or other of the servers would have a momentary brain fart, causing the tills to glitch, the main problem being that any sale in progress would terminate, but the stock issued to that sale would disappear from the system into a pending file and be restored overnight when pending sales were cancelled. This was a big problem if the customer had ordered the last of an item, as we would then be unable to sell that item until it was cleared the next day.

    The support guys came and did their stuff; running power analysers, network sniffers, all kinds of tests, but the problem never arose when they where on site.

    Until one day the manager's analogue cordless phone rang as she passed the comms room.

    Clearly the EMP as her phone connected to the base station was enough to unsettle the fragile servers.

    Swapping to a DECT phone was enough to fix the issue.

    1. Chloe Cresswell Silver badge

      Anyone with a GSM based phone and being near anything with amp in it probably remembers the "duh duh duuuuh" type sounds the amp would pick up on it's input from the GSM phone going from "cell standby" to "making connection for call" before it rang.

      1. GlenP Silver badge

        Nokia phones always seemed to be the worst for that, but that may just have been how ubiquitous they were!

        These days it's a slightly different problem. We had a visiting minister at Church who brought his Bluetooth soundbar to play the hymn music from his phone (we don't have a keyboard player any more). He was just starting the service when a call came in, which of course rang on the soundbar (and yes, he should have turned the phone to silent). It's one reason I'm keeping our own setup, which needs renewing, mostly analogue.

        1. mickaroo

          I used to work in big pharma, doing installation/operational qualification of production equipment. One of the operational test was ‘RF interference’ from walkie-talkies (cell phones were verböten in Production).

          The vast majority of the equipment would be just fine, but I’ve seen a few cases where the equipment would have a brain-fart and fall over. Then we’d have to test how close you could be, and flag the equipment with ‘no walkie-talkies’ within X-feet.

          1. Korev Silver badge
            Flame

            A friend ran a team in pharma production, she had a special mobile phone that was designed to not create sparks and was safe to use in environments with solvents. It made the old school Nokias look svelte!

            1. Andy A
              Mushroom

              I had to mend a phone which could go BANG!

              One place I worked had a phone inside an explosives area. When it failed I had a right old time sorting it out. Decode the frame and disconnect line at the exchange end having checked I had the correct extension. Head into explosives area, carrying relevant (manual) screwdrivers. Disconnect phone from wall and line. Carry it outside. Repair it. Head in and reinstall. Back out and reconnect at exchange. Ring the extension. Nobody answers. Back in and find the fault also involved the red light on top of the little cabin. Repeat to figure out what type of bulb the red light needed....

              Each trip to the user's area took about half an hour. Fixing the fault took a whole day.

              1. NetMage Bronze badge

                Re: I had to mend a phone which could go BANG!

                You couldn’t connect it directly to the frame for testing?

            2. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
              Pint

              Ahhhh yes the no phones, MP3 players etc, not only in production area's but also while walking around the GSK Dartford site.

              I used to leave my un-powered phone on my desk while I supported my building{s) & I worked away from home.

              Unlike North American phones that report a un-powered device is not available at this time, this led to the following evening exchange with the Ex Mrs Scorn.

              Hi how was your day?

              Ohhhh decided you want to talk to me now have you?

              Pardon?

              Where were you?

              I was at work

              Don't lie I rang you & you didn't answer.

              (This goes back n forth a few more times until)

              Look & listen, I cant use my phone anywhere except at my desk, it was powered off while I was away from desk.

              Don't lie it rang I heard it.

              I said OK lets stop this shit now, your on your mobile yes?

              Yes

              Alright now Hang up, turn off your phone & ring it from the main house phone, then call me back with an apology.

              It rang, you were right (Still annoyed because shes worked herself up into a right snit).

              A brief conversation happened, it was around that time, I decided I was going to walk to my local bar (Icon) terminating that evenings daily chat.

          2. Richard 12 Silver badge

            Walkie talkies will even trip most RCD/GFD and AFCI/AFDD circuit breakers if "clicked" within a few cm of them. In some cases they'll even trip MCBs.

            They have an absolutely massive output, as that initial burst is basically unregulated.

            Never use your radio near electronics.

            It's one reason the emergency services have been changing over to "mobile phone" technology. The other being encryption, of course. "Police scanners" don't pick up LTE based trunk calls.

        2. 42656e4d203239

          >>Nokia phones always seemed to be the worst for that,

          My current work Nokia (well HMD) G21 still affects the PC speakers when I put it close...

          1. Lazlo Woodbine Silver badge

            All Nokias, even HMD models, retain an FM radio.

            I've no idea why, because the radio needs a headphone wire to act as a radio, and who uses wired headphones anymore...

            1. tiggity Silver badge

              @Lazlo Woodbine

              Myself & partner used wired headphones

              No hassle with having to ensure headphones are charged - just plug them into the jack & they work.

              Altogether far less hassle.

        3. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge
          Coat

          He was just starting the service when a call came in, which of course rang on the soundbar

          "Oh Lord, hear our prayer.". Brrr, brrrr click, "yes? who is this? What do you want?"

          1. dmesg Bronze badge

            A few Sundays ago at our UU service the minister was leading a guided meditation during which he said something to the effect of "receiving a call." At the very moment someone's phone rang. But for it being a quiet moment everyone would have laughed, so the congregation (and minister) all had a good smile.

          2. Giles C Silver badge
            Trollface

            You should find the number and call it when it is answered just say it is God returning your call…… (preferably using Morgan Freemans voice)

        4. doublelayer Silver badge

          "It's one reason I'm keeping our own setup, which needs renewing, mostly analogue."

          I don't think Bluetooth is the problem here. Even if everything was analog audio, if it's being driven from an active phone, it'll still ring for an incoming call. Most phones on silent will still play the ring sound through any audio, cabled or wireless, because the software assumes you're not within vibration range and want to be aware of the incoming call, but even if you disable that, they tend to interrupt the playing audio so the incoming call would still silence the music. The problem is what is used to play the audio and the interference of other software on that, so that's the part you should implement differently.

          1. Robert Carnegie Silver badge

            I don't know if you can disable or divert incoming calls on the phone.

            Wanting to use Bluetooth is a complication, but you could still use some kind of "Faraday cage" arrangement. When I needed a phone case for a 2G candy bar, I tried using a metal spectacles case. I didn't get any calls, and my battery ran down, so I think the case was blocking radio signals, and my phone and the network were going crazy trying to talk to each other.

            Perhaps you could lay the Bluetooth phone either inside or under a metal biscuit tin or cooking pan - in such a way that the phone can't "see" the outside world of phone signals, but it can "see" the Bluetooth soundbar, either directly above it, or directly below.

            1. Richard 12 Silver badge

              Airplane mode

              On all recent-ish phones you can turn on airplane mode then re-enable Bluetooth and/or WiFi, leaving only the cellular radio disabled.

              1. Robert Carnegie Silver badge

                Re: Airplane mode

                Oh yes, that works! ...Is it supposed to? ;-)

  5. Bebu sa Ware Silver badge
    Windows

    Had similar

    The landline (some cisco thing) back in late '90s early '00s would interfere with the adjacent Unix workstation's sound system. I never used the sound system but just before the phone actually rang the sound system would snap, crackle and pop.

    This helped to enhance my tech aura when consulting with a user, I would interrupt saying "excuse me, I have to take this call" just before the phone rang.

    Plenty of perplexed users. A BoFH that can actually see the future is a window far too open for most people.

    No one tumbled to it before the phone system and handsets were upgraded to some boring voip thing.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: Had similar

      "A BoFH that can actually see the future is a window far too open for most people."

      With a BoFH in the vicinity any window is far too open, even when it's closed.

  6. ITMA Silver badge
    Devil

    "Aura" enchancement

    I've always found that carrying, and when appropriate waving about, one of those orange plastic dead-blow mallets that comes with metal racking over said "miscreant equipment" significantly enhances both the efficacy and range of one's personal "IT Technician Aura".

    1. Boris the Cockroach Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: "Aura" enchancement

      Also it helps with operator training, and increasing the amount of production during the shift.

      Another day , another human rights violation

    2. Someone Else Silver badge

      Re: "Aura" enchancement

      We always referred to "Technician Aura" as "Dentist-chair Syndrome". Applies to a larger set of experiences.

      Also a-propos to the orange mallet thing...

  7. MattieD

    We call her Ruth

    We've got a staff member who is magically capable of breaking anything she goes near. Doesn't matter what - software or hardware - as soon as she's nearby something goes titsup with it.

    Ruth is the person for whom 'You should never see this error' was written.

    It's quite a handy skill though. We include her in all the demos and proof of concepts that companies want us to try. If it can withstand Ruth then we're interested.

    1. Korev Silver badge

      Re: We call her Ruth

      I have that "problem" too, it means I often get asked to be on pilots

      1. DJV Silver badge

        Re: I often get asked to be on pilots

        Not while they're flying a plane, I hope!

        1. breakfast Silver badge

          Re: I often get asked to be on pilots

          A system you absolutely do not want to crash.

    2. Antron Argaiv Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: We call her Ruth

      You simply need to be...

      ...Ruth-less

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: We call her Ruth

        st'Ruth!

    3. G.Y.

      Pauli Re: We call her Ruth

      Wolfgang Pauli has that reputation. When he was in town, things broke -- a change of trains at the station was enough

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Pauli We call her Ruth

        Well the town should exclude him ....

        1. Cheshire Cat
          Go

          Re: Pauli We call her Ruth

          ... on principle

  8. Alister

    On the workbench in the comms room here we have the skeletal remains of a Dell PE860 with a large screwdriver embedded in its mainboard. It is left there as a salutary lesson to all the servers in the racks...

    The MTBF increased markedly after we put it there...

    1. Korev Silver badge
      Flame

      I had a car that was so unreliable that when it finally became uneconomic to repair I donated it to the local fire brigade to teach it a lesson...

  9. Andy A
    Thumb Up

    It's not just GSM

    We had a customer who regularly had a machine lose the contents of its drive - MFM in those days. They would extract the machine from their "computer room". We would do a low-level reformat and restore the image and all was well for a couple of weeks.

    One day we were there for a different reason, and the machine failed.

    We went into the computer room and realised that there was an old-fashioned landline phone on top of the plastic PC case. When that phone rang, its bell caused a huge magnetic field, and the platter underneath it got wiped.

    A quick trip to the cheap shop up the road netted a modern phone with a squawk for a tenner. It saved a good few long drive callouts for us.

    1. NITS

      Re: It's not just GSM

      Back in the day I was using my laptop to troubleshoot the network connection to a cash register in a department store. I placed my laptop on the counter and went to the switch closet. Upon my return, the machine had blue-screened. I had absent-mindedly set it atop the magnetic thingy that detaches the antitheft tags, and it had degaussed my drive while it was running.

    2. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge

      Re: It's not just GSM

      In other words, you spent 10 to eliminate a day out of the office every other week with mileage and lunch charged back to the company? Optimal that is not.

  10. Jedit Silver badge
    Headmaster

    An oldie but a ... goodie?

    This reminds me of a famous story. A man was condemned to death in the UK. They got him on the gallows, pulled the lever, but the trap stayed closed. They took him back to his cell, tested the trap and it worked perfectly. Execution take 2 - same as the first, the trap wouldn't open. They successfully tested the apparatus again and gave it one more go, but again the execution failed. Having tried three times, the condemned man's sentence was commuted to transportation for life.

    Unfortunately for the next guy in line, they figured out what had happened: a board in the gallows frame had warped slightly, and if someone stood in a certain place it would bend and wedge the trap closed. During the test only the executioner was on the platform and so the trap worked, but when the full execution party was present the chaplain would be standing at the crucial spot.

    1. volsano

      Re: An oldie but a ... goodie?

      That's a not-too-badly mangled version of the story of John Lee.

      For a slightly less mangled version of the life of the Man they Could not Hang:

      http://www.lestheredblog.com/john-babbacombe-lee-the-man-they-couldnt-hang.html

  11. goblinski Silver badge

    Him who has had to troubleshoot WiFi drops come lunch time then tried to explain it's the old microwave oven's fault shall nod approvingly at this story.

  12. Daedalus

    Sometimes a little human engineering is the key

    I mean, if all the hardware fixes aren't dealing with the problem, maybe asking people what goes on around the issue could be the way to diagnose it.

    Of course, asking people to connect two things together, or even remember that they happened, can be a bit much. We hear a lot about "xxxxx doesn't work" when what really happened was something popped up on the screen and was immediately dismissed without being read.

    And then there's ego:

    "What were you doing when it happened?"

    "Are you accusing me of causing it?"

    Soft skills, which are often deficient in your average techie, sometimes save the day.

    1. Bob Royal

      Re: Sometimes a little human engineering is the key

      In the early days of computer controlled telephony, we had problems in private exchanges in India & Scotland.

      The software would crash hard on a regular basis, which meant all calls cut, start again.

      My mate was in Bombay (before they tried to change the name) & knew it was something to do with the Operators Console, but what?

      I was in Edinburgh with the same problem, so off to observe the operators, hei-ho.

      (NOT crumpet watching skiveing believe me. Not in Scotland!)

      It happens! The m/c crashes.... What did you press? "Nothing."

      Come now, which button? "Nothing."

      Show me. Seems "nothing" is the Scottish word for zero?!!

      1. Robert Carnegie Silver badge

        Re: Sometimes a little human engineering is the key

        Oh, that old trick ("The Odyssey" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis )

  13. JMcKeand

    Back in the day

    I had a Nextel i1000 Plus phone that would make my PC speakers pop and snap just before a call would come in. It also had a third-party antenna with a small circuit that would flash a couple LEDs as the call was coming in.

    1. goblinski Silver badge

      Re: Back in the day

      Any GSM would make our Nissan's radio snap and pop a few seconds before the call would actually make the phone react in any way.

  14. Old Used Programmer

    Another form of external interfernce

    A company I worked at would push software updates to in-store servers and pull daily sales activity over night. At one store, we were having a terrible time doing this. After a lot of swapping in new components, someone noticed that the phone line used for data transfer connected to the building right next to the transformer for the neon sign...that was only turned on at night...

  15. cob2018
    Holmes

    "Technician Aura" takes many forms

    Back in the '80s I was employed by a US military contractor, which of course had occasion to develop software to run on military-grade computers. The model in this incident had already been around for probably 15 - 20 years, and the unit in question was DEFINITELY one of the older ones ( serial number 18, IIRC ) and had been the target/victim of multiple vendor updates and modifications performed on-site.

    As one of the few people who were actually trained on the maintenance of this beast, I got the call from the software development folk when issues arose. This time around, they could do partial builds of the operational software, but when the FULL build was attempted, it would crash just before completion. Several times I visited this machine, and even though I never got within 5 feet of the unit, it would perform PERFECTLY as long as I was there to watch. Go figure.

    Eventually, the situation deteriorated enough that I was able to observe the failure for myself, and after a rather long day with diagnostic program listings, logic diagrams and schematics ( I said it was old ) I was finally able to pinpoint the problem and identify the faulty circuit card to replace. Problem solved, but it took a while for my blood pressure to recover.

    1. Chloe Cresswell Silver badge

      Re: "Technician Aura" takes many forms

      I had a friend who worked on a machine with multiple cards.

      To test one, you'd pull the card, put an extender card in place, so the card under test was outside the chassis so you could get to it for testing/diagnostics.

      Worked fine till one time he met a fault card that turned out to have timing issues.

      Didn't work properly in the machine at random.

      Add the extender card, and it worked perfectly under test.

      The extra traces of the extender "fixed" the timing issues, making it a bugger to work out the actual fault!

      1. dmesg Bronze badge

        Re: "Technician Aura" takes many forms

        Reminiscent of the old floppy discs that worked fine in one machine but were unreadable in others due to drive head alignment differences.

  16. Patrick R

    I've had interferences from the street light on my TV. During Euro 2024, halfway the evening match, the image would suffer interferences. Both neighbors were OK. It took me 3 days to figure it out. My coax TV cable runs 40 cm vertically before going in through the wall, and the street lamp is just a meter away. The lamp was turning on and flickering from ~22:30. It was fixed 2 weeks later. Side note: last week we got LEDs.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      "last week we got LEDs"

      Just wait till they start to fail. The <= 1Hx flashing gets annoying, especially if it shines in through a bedroom window.

      1. Giles C Silver badge

        I have a very bright led streetlamp outside the house next to mine, so I bought a pair of extra heavy weight black out curtains to stop the light getting in, I also need these in the summer as the window points due south or I would be woken up at 3AM.

      2. Stevie

        especially if it shines in through a bedroom window.

        Mr Meldrew, is that you?

  17. Paul Cooper

    It's not just hardware!

    I used to manage and act as in-house technical support for a complex commercial software package. Users often had to follow a chain of operations to get the required result. The number of times I got "Paul, it isn't working - what's wrong?" but it worked perfectly when I sat next to them and guided them through the procedure was astronomical! And funnily enough, it was usually the same people. I think that there are users who simply don't quite "get" that EVERY step in a procedure is important - that if you miss one, it won't work!

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: It's not just hardware!

      Tell them it's magic and they've got to get the spells just right.

  18. Scene it all

    I was working in an IBM shop with a 370/158 that suddenly started crashing in random jobs. This eventually turned out to be a failure in the hardware that advanced the Program Counter, taking into account the 370's variable-length instructions. It would advance the PC by 4 sometimes, when it should have been by 2, thus skipping over some short instructions. But along the way to figuring that out, IBM sent along some factory technicians with a bizarre test device that looked like a cross between a hat rack and a bed spring. They set this thing up a few feet from the CPU cabinet and opened the doors. Apparently this thing generated all sort of RF and static electric interference fields that would expose any flaky circuits. So they must have had problems with this sort of thing to bother inventing such a contraption. This was before the days of cellphones. They did not find anything that way - the final problem was diagnosed by the senior IBM software support guy, going over crash dumps, looking for patterns.

    1. Vincent Manis

      The University of BC had a System/360-67 running the Michigan Timesharing System (I still miss that combo sometimes). One Fortran program would only run or fail randomly. It turned out that there was a timing heisenbug affecting one of the arithmetic instructions—I forget which. After tracking this down, the customer engineer solved the problem by opening one of the cabinets and snipping a small bit of cable out. This change in propagation time made the bug go away, never to return.

      Try that on a system-on-a-chip!

  19. Vincent Manis

    Back in the day, many friends were Amiga fans. I was always impressed by their specs, but every time someone offered to show me some Amiga thing or other, the machine would fail just as they were about to demonstrate it. To this day, I have never seen an Amiga actually running. I am convinced I emit an anti-Amiga aura.

    Back in the GSM era, I routinely found that my phone would erase hotel room keys. I learned to keep my phone in a pocket with nothing else, a habit that persists to the present day.

  20. MatthewSt

    Can't monitor something without changing it

    Applies to hardware, software, wetware, and the universe as a whole

    1. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge

      Re: Can't monitor something without changing it

      This, exactly. A bane of my existence in the telecom world is the intermittent error condition. Customer complains, we test, no trouble found, problem's gone. Two weeks later, customer calls it out again. Same problem, comes clear while testing.

      One thing that can cause this is wet cable - water gets in and causes a minor short where a little power bleeds out but not enough to take it down. This requires drying and sealing the cable, or replacing it. Another issue is DSX jack corrosion caused by passing a light current through dissimilar metals. Over time this causes corrosion, usually fixed by sliding a plug in and out a few times. If that doesn't get it, then the DSX is replaced. Finally, there is a defective cable. No idea how a cable inside a rack that is untouched for years suddenly goes bad, but it actually happens quite a lot. This requires either a new cable or a new head installed on the existing cable.

      If your telecom provider gives you any of these RFOs, just press the I Believe button. We're not blowing smoke at you. The fixes I just detailed account for 40 percent of my circuit fixes. I will tell you this though - some techs will exercise the jacks every 2 weeks until the end of time if you let them. It only takes a few seconds and the problem is gone now and with any luck, they won't be on duty next time. If the last fix was exercised the jacks and it's been less than 6 months, demand that they replace the DSX jack.

      Oh, and squirrels LOVE fiber cable, enough so that all the telecoms I've worked for had animal chew as an official RFO and one specifically had squirrel chew as a code.

      1. Giles C Silver badge

        Re: Can't monitor something without changing it

        I had that problem as a customer, phone line worked perfectly, until the wind got to about 30mph, the fault was the insulation had worn through on the cable having been up there for 40 years and when the wind got up it shorted out,

        1. J.G.Harston Silver badge

          Re: Can't monitor something without changing it

          I get that here. I live opposite the exchange, so my feed is actually direct from the exchange, under the road, through a conduit that fills with water when it rains.

          1. Rob Daglish

            Re: Can't monitor something without changing it

            I have the opposite problem - when it dries up, the ground dries out and shrinks, causing the junction box to slip and move, shorting the cables so my broadband goes off. Last OpenRetch engineer suggested I take a watering can to the bottom of the pole when we have a dry spell...

  21. C R Mudgeon Silver badge
    Mushroom

    A bang is worse than a crash

    There's a quarry not too many miles from where I grew up. Back in the 70s there were signs on the road that ran past it, warning people to turn off any radio transmitters. It seems there was some risk of a CB radio or whatever detonating the explosives the quarry used, before the workers were a safe distance away!

    (I've never understood how that might happen, TBH. Would they have been using radio-controlled detonators, perhaps?)

    1. H in The Hague

      Re: A bang is worse than a crash

      "(I've never understood how that might happen, TBH. Would they have been using radio-controlled detonators, perhaps?)"

      The electromagnetic field of a transmitter might just induce enough power in the detonator circuit to trigger it. Probably not relevant in most cases, but with explosives it's worth taking safety seriously. Similarly, oil rigs maintain radio silence during some operations with explosives, see e.g. https://glossary.slb.com/Terms/r/radio_silence.aspx

  22. Guido Esperanto

    They say opposites attract.

    My wife has - what I refer to as her ESPN (Mean Girls!) whereby just tech in her vicinity will do weird and unpredictable things.

    I as the resident nerd of the household will bask her in my glorious aura and those problems seems to vanish, making a complete liar of her.

  23. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I've literally had a chap just come and see me with this exact issue, Excel crashing on sync. He sat down next to me and it's fine now

  24. J.G.Harston Silver badge

    ******ing portable/mobile phones. If I sent a three-legged wooden horse galloping through nearby electronic equipment with my amateur radio, I'd have the licensing authorites down on top of me like a huge pile of building material stripping my license from me. Yet ******ing phone companies get away scott free.

  25. J. Cook

    The only goofy RF interfereance story I have is from the church I used to attend- the digital radios the local police use would sometimes emit frequencies that picked up on the church's wireless mics, which happened often enough that the people using the mics would turn them off when they were not in use.

    the last time I was there, they had swapped over to using hardwired mics instead.

    1. molletts

      I remember my Dad coming home from Christmas "Midnight Mass" (which has got steadily earlier as the average age of the congregation at his church has increased and was at about 5:30pm last year) on one occasion and telling Mum and me (a pair of heathens) that the nearby pub was having a special comedy night which had been interfering with the mics at the church!

      I don't know what they did but I'd have been inclined to mute them at the mixer but leave them transmitting just for the satisfaction of knowing that they might also be interfering with the pub! Return the favour, so to speak ;) It might have made some of the jokes a bit surreal. "Y'know what I told the mother in law when she came home?" "Take this cup and drink from it. This is my blood..."

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